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Anonymous wrote:Of course. The DCA incident was due to factors that have been a potential for decades. Nothing new.
The incident in Toronto had nothing to do with the FAA or any US agency.

No air traffic control personnel were RIF’d. The sky is not falling, hence, I will still fly.

People are saying it was Musk’s boys editing navigation software.

Anonymous wrote:Of course. The DCA incident was due to factors that have been a potential for decades. Nothing new.
The incident in Toronto had nothing to do with the FAA or any US agency.

No air traffic control personnel were RIF’d. The sky is not falling, hence, I will still fly.

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Anonymous wrote:The White House announced Thursday it was allocating nearly $1 billion in federal funding for infrastructure projects to modernize 114 U.S. airports across 44 states and three territories.

This was Feb 2024, part of Biden's infrastructure bill. The actual total for airport infrastructure was 25 billion.

But Trump is going to let Elon take it all over and run it on his own I guess.

Just saved us tax payers another $24 billion. Love this crew

You must be really gullible. Have you sent any money to Nigerian princes?

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Anonymous wrote:The White House announced Thursday it was allocating nearly $1 billion in federal funding for infrastructure projects to modernize 114 U.S. airports across 44 states and three territories.

This was Feb 2024, part of Biden's infrastructure bill. The actual total for airport infrastructure was 25 billion.

But Trump is going to let Elon take it all over and run it on his own I guess.

Just saved us tax payers another $24 billion. Love this crew

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Anonymous wrote:The White House announced Thursday it was allocating nearly $1 billion in federal funding for infrastructure projects to modernize 114 U.S. airports across 44 states and three territories.

This was Feb 2024, part of Biden's infrastructure bill. The actual total for airport infrastructure was 25 billion.

But Trump is going to let Elon take it all over and run it on his own I guess.

Just saved us tax payers another $24 billion. Love this crew

Anonymous wrote:The White House announced Thursday it was allocating nearly $1 billion in federal funding for infrastructure projects to modernize 114 U.S. airports across 44 states and three territories.

This was Feb 2024, part of Biden's infrastructure bill. The actual total for airport infrastructure was 25 billion.

But Trump is going to let Elon take it all over and run it on his own I guess.

Anonymous wrote:This is what the president plans for air traffic control:

We're all gonna sit down and do a great computerized system for our control towers. Brand new. Not pieced together, obsolete, like it is, land-based. Trying to hook up a land-based system to a satellite system. The first thing that some experts told me when this happened is you can't hook up land to satellites and you can't hook up satellites to land. It doesn't work. We spend billions of billions of dollars trying to renovate an old, broken system, instead of just saying cut it loose, and let's spend less money and build a great system done by two or three companies, very good companies, specialists, that's all it is. They used 39 companies. That means that 39 different hookups have to happen. And I don't know how many people of you are good in terms of all of the kinds of things necessary for that. And it's very complex stuff. But when you have 39 different companies working on hooking up different cities at different people. You need one company. With one set of equipment. And there are some countries that have unbelievable air controller systems. And they would've, bells would've gone off when that helicopter literally even hit the same height. Because it traveled a long distance before it hit. It was just like, just wouldn't stop. Follow the line. But bells and whistles would've gone off. They have 'em where it actually could virtually turn the thing around. It would've just never happened if we had the right equipment.
And one of things that's gonna be, l'm gonna speaking to John and to Mike and to Chuck and everybody, we have to get together and just as a single bill just pass where we get the best control system. When I land in my plane, privately, l use a system from another country because my captain tells me, I'm landing in New York and I'm using a sys- I won't tell you what country, but l use a system from another country because the captain says 'This thing is so bad, it's so obsolete.' And we can't have that.

Anonymous wrote:It’s an old Silicon Valley truism that rewriting or refactoring code is a trap.

You imagine clean lines of concise engineered code much easier to read and maintain.

But don’t realize that that extra bobs and bits were edge cases the idealized algorithm can’t handle, or real world limitations of hardware or meatspace, and have rolled back stability to V1.0 BETA.

Facebook still runs PHP. It’s also why banks have old mainframes. Replacing a complex, public safety system in real time while in use?

I’m getting a Winnebago.

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Anonymous wrote:So far they fired some probationary employees, that’s all we know. ATCs have to be on the job training for 3 years before they get certified and become actual ATCs. So non of the actual ATCs can’t possibly be probationary. Also, ATCs are not eligible for the fork buyout because they are considered essential. What’s with all the fear mongering? Having said that, I don’t mind if you all stop flying. Looking forward to less crowded airports and flights.

What’s the plan when the overworked and stressed employees retire or quit?

Not great, but same thing happened during last shutdown, when ATCs had to work without pay and some refused to show up. FAA slowed down the air traffic. Longer waits. I don’t recall any planes crushing.

We also had 4 years of Biden and Pete at the helm of the US-DOT and FAA without a single major aircraft incident. We have had at least 5 since Trump took over and many are directly attributing to the layoffs and threats of firings taken on day 1.

Plenty of incidents during Biden administration. It’s so sad that many of us are incapable of critical thinking. We’d do much better as a county.

https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/statements/accident_incidents

and yet, no crashes. Amazing that.

DC crash was related to military pilot error, not ATC. And Toronto crash was in Canada. What’s amazing is your inability to think logically.

No stop with your fake trump propaganda ans get a job.

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Anonymous wrote:So far they fired some probationary employees, that’s all we know. ATCs have to be on the job training for 3 years before they get certified and become actual ATCs. So non of the actual ATCs can’t possibly be probationary. Also, ATCs are not eligible for the fork buyout because they are considered essential. What’s with all the fear mongering? Having said that, I don’t mind if you all stop flying. Looking forward to less crowded airports and flights.

What’s the plan when the overworked and stressed employees retire or quit?

Not great, but same thing happened during last shutdown, when ATCs had to work without pay and some refused to show up. FAA slowed down the air traffic. Longer waits. I don’t recall any planes crushing.

We also had 4 years of Biden and Pete at the helm of the US-DOT and FAA without a single major aircraft incident. We have had at least 5 since Trump took over and many are directly attributing to the layoffs and threats of firings taken on day 1.

Plenty of incidents during Biden administration. It’s so sad that many of us are incapable of critical thinking. We’d do much better as a county.

https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/statements/accident_incidents

and yet, no crashes. Amazing that.

DC crash was related to military pilot error, not ATC. And Toronto crash was in Canada. What’s amazing is your inability to think logically.

No other plane in Toronto flipped that day. Wonder what was wrong with that American plane from an American carrier originating from an American airport.

And the military plane- that was Hogseth’s military operating out an American airspace with Trump’s FAA guy in charge.

You all just can’t handle the fact that your DUI hires have managed to screw things up so quickly. Buck stops at the top.

It's kind of like if you start terrorizing federal employees who are doing jobs that help the country function on a daily or monthly or yearly basis the whole system starts to fall apart.

There was zero US federal employees on duty in Canadian airport or on board of commercial aircraft that flipped. Zero.

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Anonymous wrote:So far they fired some probationary employees, that’s all we know. ATCs have to be on the job training for 3 years before they get certified and become actual ATCs. So non of the actual ATCs can’t possibly be probationary. Also, ATCs are not eligible for the fork buyout because they are considered essential. What’s with all the fear mongering? Having said that, I don’t mind if you all stop flying. Looking forward to less crowded airports and flights.

What’s the plan when the overworked and stressed employees retire or quit?

Not great, but same thing happened during last shutdown, when ATCs had to work without pay and some refused to show up. FAA slowed down the air traffic. Longer waits. I don’t recall any planes crushing.

We also had 4 years of Biden and Pete at the helm of the US-DOT and FAA without a single major aircraft incident. We have had at least 5 since Trump took over and many are directly attributing to the layoffs and threats of firings taken on day 1.

Plenty of incidents during Biden administration. It’s so sad that many of us are incapable of critical thinking. We’d do much better as a county.

https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/statements/accident_incidents

and yet, no crashes. Amazing that.

DC crash was related to military pilot error, not ATC. And Toronto crash was in Canada. What’s amazing is your inability to think logically.

No other plane in Toronto flipped that day. Wonder what was wrong with that American plane from an American carrier originating from an American airport.

And the military plane- that was Hogseth’s military operating out an American airspace with Trump’s FAA guy in charge.

You all just can’t handle the fact that your DUI hires have managed to screw things up so quickly. Buck stops at the top.

It's kind of like if you start terrorizing federal employees who are doing jobs that help the country function on a daily or monthly or yearly basis the whole system starts to fall apart.

Weird that out of all 5 airplane incidents, the only one they attribute to pilot error is the Army helicopter. I wonder why.

I don’t think they have issued the final report yet. All these crash will be placed on the ATC DEI hires. Trump will have final say on the report and we will never know the reason for the crashes.