Anonymous wrote:Ben Gvir blocks thursdays ceasefire vote by war cabinet

Tragic. We thought this time the news might be true.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/16/world/video/gaza-israel-strike-ceasefire-deal-ldn-digvid

Good. It was a surrender by Israel. Time for Israel to deal with Iran and invade Turkey then apply for EU membership.

It’s tragic that we sat idly by while the actual terrorists who bypassed the U.N. partition plan (which was, incidentally outrageously brought about and favored the Zionist movement over the far more numerous indigenous population) and established the State of Israel were enabled to construct a propaganda campaign to further fleece us - eight decades now into this failure of an experiment.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel backed out.

Pre meditated back out. Trump in bed with Netanyahu and wants the hostages released when he’s in the Oval Office dining room watching it on 📺

Biden, Blinken, Harris retain creds.

No. It's the right wingers in the Netanyahu government. It's such a narrow coalition in this government that if the right wingers in the cabinet don't go along with the details of the ceasefire, the government collapses. This is the downside of parliamentary governments. Small extremist parties can exercise disproportionate power.

I predict Netanyahu will fall before Hamas for this very reason. Not that I feel sorry for him. What he did to Rabin by inciting right wing extremist Jews is coming back to him now.

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Anonymous wrote:Big test of Trump’s seriousness is whether he can show more backbone than Biden. The U.S. should act like Israel needs our support, but it has for decades acted like we need to support Israel. Sad!

Trump doesn't even understand the dynamics here. He's been threatening Hamas, but they are not the sticking point. They've been willing to do this deal for a long time. Netanyahu and his cabinet are the problem.

Does Biden or any other president understand the dynamics? The harsh reality is that the American ruling class has been fooling themselves about the dynamics for decades. The bar for Trump to outperform is painfully low.

Ben Gvir blocks thursdays ceasefire vote by war cabinet

Tragic. We thought this time the news might be true.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/16/world/video/gaza-israel-strike-ceasefire-deal-ldn-digvid

Anonymous wrote:Big test of Trump’s seriousness is whether he can show more backbone than Biden. The U.S. should act like Israel needs our support, but it has for decades acted like we need to support Israel. Sad!

Trump doesn't even understand the dynamics here. He's been threatening Hamas, but they are not the sticking point. They've been willing to do this deal for a long time. Netanyahu and his cabinet are the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:So if it falls apart (like it seems to be doing) everyone praising Biden will accept it’s a Biden failure right?

Will everyone praising Trump accept that its Trump's fault?

No we should only praise Trump and Biden for their heroism in almost negotiating a cease fire after only two years of ugly warfare and 50k, mostly innocent civilians, killed.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel backed out.

Pre meditated back out. Trump in bed with Netanyahu and wants the hostages released when he’s in the Oval Office dining room watching it on 📺

Biden, Blinken, Harris retain creds.

No. It's the right wingers in the Netanyahu government. It's such a narrow coalition in this government that if the right wingers in the cabinet don't go along with the details of the ceasefire, the government collapses. This is the downside of parliamentary governments. Small extremist parties can exercise disproportionate power.

No the whole country is much more right wing vs Netanyahu. I am surprised Trump was able to force the Israeli government in to a deal to release some of the hostages. It goes against Israel’s interests.

Big test of Trump’s seriousness is whether he can show more backbone than Biden. The U.S. should act like Israel needs our support, but it has for decades acted like we need to support Israel. Sad!

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Anonymous wrote:Israel backed out.

Pre meditated back out. Trump in bed with Netanyahu and wants the hostages released when he’s in the Oval Office dining room watching it on 📺

Biden, Blinken, Harris retain creds.

No. It's the right wingers in the Netanyahu government. It's such a narrow coalition in this government that if the right wingers in the cabinet don't go along with the details of the ceasefire, the government collapses. This is the downside of parliamentary governments. Small extremist parties can exercise disproportionate power.

Israeli war cabinet may reject ceasefire agreement. Disputes hold up Israeli cabinet vote.

Wow and my hopes were up for just a second only for them to come crashing down.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-ceasefire-accord-followed-by-airstrikes-gaza-residents-say-2025-01-16/



Wow, and my hopes were up.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-ceasefire-accord-followed-by-airstrikes-gaza-residents-say-2025-01-16/

Anonymous wrote:So if it falls apart (like it seems to be doing) everyone praising Biden will accept it’s a Biden failure right?

Will everyone praising Trump accept that its Trump's fault?

Anonymous wrote:So if it falls apart (like it seems to be doing) everyone praising Biden will accept it’s a Biden failure right?

Nope, it’s Netanyahu’s fault.

So if it falls apart (like it seems to be doing) everyone praising Biden will accept it’s a Biden failure right?

Anonymous wrote:We are getting a president who likes to work an doesnt like to sleep. He also likes to make deals and hates war.

The Biden and Liz Cheney fangirls weep

To bad he lacks just about every character that marks a great leader.