Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Half the storefronts in this city are empty, at a time when the economy is friggin' booming. Obviously the DC government's policies are not working. Maybe we should try something different.
It is ominous given how low the unemployment rate is right now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.
Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.
So we're going to require people who are getting completely hammered in bars to move their car frequently because they will be worried about the meter, and then they will have to drive around for 45 minutes (while inebriated) looking for a new parking spot. What could possibly go wrong?
Um.. or perhaps maybe, just hear me out now, just maybe, those people "getting hammered" at bars could choose to arrive at their location in a way that's (hopefully) similar to their departure plan - by not driving themselves there?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.
Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.
So we're going to require people who are getting completely hammered in bars to move their car frequently because they will be worried about the meter, and then they will have to drive around for 45 minutes (while inebriated) looking for a new parking spot. What could possibly go wrong?
Um.. or perhaps maybe, just hear me out now, just maybe, those people "getting hammered" at bars could choose to arrive at their location in a way that's (hopefully) similar to their departure plan - by not driving themselves there?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.
The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.
https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking
Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.
It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.
People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is an astounding level of entitlement from the suburban folks here. Believe it or not, people live in DC and their needs for parking need to be prioritized. If you wanna get out of your generic, lifeless home and visit a real place, that's fine. But you'll have to pay for it instead of being a leech or be subsidized by us. Thanks!
Unlike you, I was born, raised and still live in DC. Your ideas are bad and harm the city. Please go back to whatever non-local suburb you are from.
Harm car-owners, I think you mean. Which is not everyone.
Again, please stop being so selfish. It's not hard! Just think about other people. It's easy. My taxes shouldn't support your car. End of story.
The irony of everything you wrote is inescapable.
Again, please stop being so selfish. It's not hard! Just think about other people. It's easy. My taxes shouldn't support your idiocy. End of story.
Anonymous wrote:Half the storefronts in this city are empty, at a time when the economy is friggin' booming. Obviously the DC government's policies are not working. Maybe we should try something different.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.
The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.
https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking
I don't think they expect people to feed meters, but rather use an app.
Why should parking on public space be free? A lot of people don't own cars and are thus subsidizing the free parking for people who do. How is that fair?
The city has spend billions of dollars on bike infrastructure benefiting a microscopic share of the population. The cost per user is on the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars per cyclist? What have they contributed towards the cost of bike lanes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.
Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.
So we're going to require people who are getting completely hammered in bars to move their car frequently because they will be worried about the meter, and then they will have to drive around for 45 minutes (while inebriated) looking for a new parking spot. What could possibly go wrong?
Anonymous wrote:In this thread: "Virginia and Maryland are so great and have tons of cool bars and restaurants, they will just go out in those neighborhoods instead of DC if this goes through! DC is being unfair and I'm mad!"
Also in this thread: "Everyone who goes to DC bars are from Maryland and Virginia! The bars will all close down without the Maryland people leaving where they live to hang out elsewhere!"
Can't have it both ways folks. lol.
Anonymous wrote:Half the storefronts in this city are empty, at a time when the economy is friggin' booming. Obviously the DC government's policies are not working. Maybe we should try something different.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DDOT wants to charge $8 an hour to park on the street. They also think people should have to feed the meter 24 hours a day. They're going to charge these sky high rates in what they call the "New Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone" but if you look at the map, it covers a large chunk of NW. Likely only a matter of time before they expand this to other neighborhoods.
The Greater U Street Performance Parking Zone centers on the U Street NW Corridor and extends across a significant area in NW, Washington. In the southeast quadrant, the zone starts at the intersection of Florida Avenue NW and S Street NW and extends to Georgia Avenue NE and 17th Street NW. In the southwest quadrant, the zone runs from 17th Street NW heading east along U Street NW, then south down 14th Street and back to Florida Avenue NW via S Street NW. Parking rates vary between $3/hour and $8/hour throughout the zone. Rates change at three intervals throughout the day: 10am, 6pm, and 3am.
https://www.parkdc.com/pages/meters#performance_parking
Discouraging people from going to U Street for dining and entertainment seems like the exactly opposite of what U Street needs right now.
It's not discouraging people from going to U Street. It's simply discouraging people who drive to U Street from parking on the street for hours and hours. If anything, it will encourage people who drive to U Street, because street parking spaces will be more available.
People will just not go to U street at all if they don’t live in walking distance and are not close to public transit. I literally will never visit a DC restaurant or Bar again if this happens does. It’s not convenient to take public transit and it more than doubles my travel time to get to DC. If they make it difficult to park and start charging $8 an hour for parking I will avoid visiting DC entirely. This is a very poorly thought out plan that will kill DC businesses. Private parking garages will also raise their rates substantially if DC charges $8 per hour. A private parking garage in this zone could effectively charge $70 per day and still be cheaper than street parking rates.
There will never be enough parking for you bridge and tunnel people, so thanks for staying away. We literally don't need you. Stay in Virginia, please.
The economic illiteracy on this thread is astounding. There aren't enough people in Washington DC to support all the bars and restaurants. Half of them would close without the "bridge and tunnel people."
+1
Plus: for decades, DC policymakers have been too stupid to bother capitalizing on one of their major sources of funding:
- tourism
Yet again, DC will shoot itself in the foot. Our local government is an incompetent, single-party, disgrace.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why people feel entitled to store their car for free on government property (aka the street). I think it would be easier to just charge a lot for an overnight parking sticker.
I don't understand why cyclists think it should be free to use the roads they don't pay for.