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Anonymous wrote:In assuming that Israel already suspects that all the hostages are already dead and they have proceeded accordingly.

No, Israel knows that not all the hostages are dead, it’s just that they don’t care. Israeli military has long operated on the “Hannibal Directive” - that any IDF soldier under threat of being killed could be shot by other IDF. This protocol was employed during Oct 7th when the order was given to use maximum force (i.e. lethal force) to prevent the return of vehicles to Gaza after the Oct 7 attack. More here - https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israel-idf-hannibal-protocol-hamas-attack-haaretz

It is assumed that the Israeli military and political establishment has essentially applied the Hannibal principle to the hostages - whether alive or dead, the Israeli government will not negotiate for their return - the hostages are essentially dead to the Israeli government unless they have immediately actionable intelligence that they could use to conduct a recovery raid with minimal risk of casualties. (Fairly unlikely, but has happened once.)

It is thought that about half of the hostages (mix of military and civilian) are alive (50-60ish).

Where would they have been kept, underground for over a year? Did Humas keep them all together,? There is no way this many could still be alive and even if they be are Humas will return them DOA. I am looking forward to trump stopping all wars on Day 1! What a joke.

Yes, there are hundreds of miles of tunnels under Gaza, where the hostages are being kept. No, they are not all kept together. Some, early on were kept in homes above ground, but many were and are underground.

Hamas is not hiding. They are killing Israeli soldiers which is why they dont want to do door to door combat to actually find the hostages. Israel can only do the only thing it knows to do which is carpet bomb because they cannot beat Hamas on the ground. After their latest military casualties when trying to take over and defeat Hamas in North Gaza for the fourth time, Israel became so angry it decided to go nuclear literally. They've now resorted to using unheard of new weapons that vanish bodies completely within seconds. They are using small tactical nuclears in Gaza toward civilians and possibly their own citizens. This is Israel's war of annihilation but it doesnt seem to be annihilating Hamas only civilians. Their war is a failure just like all things from Netanyahu. Israel will likely be at civil war or do a military coup to get rid of Netanyahu within the next five years. Very sad state of affairs. I dont see any bright days ahead for Palestinians or Israelis.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. What is Trump going to do to Hamas that hasn’t been done already? It’s not like it’s been a measured campaign so far.

It's not Hamas, it's Iran. That's (almost certainly) the threat here.

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Anonymous wrote:It is about wiping out the Palestinians so Jared can develop the beachfront property in Gaza.

There isn't an altrusitic bone in any of these people's bodies.

And they want us to believe these tacky condo builders and genocidal baby-killers are the same people of the bible. They literally took what little food aid was going into Gaza and switched out the sugar for sand. They also take out the anesthesia so all of those orphaned children being amputated, are having their appendages cut off without anesthesia. They have actual tours for psycho Israelis to see what has been done to Gaza.

The level of evil is unmatched. But of course, the usual idiots will mention "Khamas" because their brains are so limited that history is apparently only a year old. Meanwhile, you can point to decades of cruelty and savagery by Israel and they just pretend it doesn't lead to an Oct 7. To a Zionist, it seems no level of evil committed by Israel from its inception right up to Oct 6, 2023, justifies what happened on Oct 7, yet that one day means Israel gets to do whatever the hell it wants...as it did BEFORE Oct. 7. And not only in Gaza but massacre people in the West Bank, Hebron, E. Jerusalem. And there's no justice.

And Trump is an idiot. The whole govt is pathetic, regardless of party. Why do Americans even pretend foreign policy is on behalf of the US when every choice is an Israeli mouthpiece whether at the State Dept or UN?

Do people who support Israel comprehend that Americans are getting sick of this sh*t? Actual laws violating free speech and the first amendment solely for Israel? Literally getting FIRED in almost 40 states if you work at a govt job and criticize/boycott Israel? To be able to criticize your own country but not that one single foreign one because you will be denied a govt contract or not get hired, is insanity.

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Anonymous wrote:In assuming that Israel already suspects that all the hostages are already dead and they have proceeded accordingly.

No, Israel knows that not all the hostages are dead, it’s just that they don’t care. Israeli military has long operated on the “Hannibal Directive” - that any IDF soldier under threat of being killed could be shot by other IDF. This protocol was employed during Oct 7th when the order was given to use maximum force (i.e. lethal force) to prevent the return of vehicles to Gaza after the Oct 7 attack. More here - https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israel-idf-hannibal-protocol-hamas-attack-haaretz

It is assumed that the Israeli military and political establishment has essentially applied the Hannibal principle to the hostages - whether alive or dead, the Israeli government will not negotiate for their return - the hostages are essentially dead to the Israeli government unless they have immediately actionable intelligence that they could use to conduct a recovery raid with minimal risk of casualties. (Fairly unlikely, but has happened once.)

It is thought that about half of the hostages (mix of military and civilian) are alive (50-60ish).

Where would they have been kept, underground for over a year? Did Humas keep them all together,? There is no way this many could still be alive and even if they be are Humas will return them DOA. I am looking forward to trump stopping all wars on Day 1! What a joke.

Yes, there are hundreds of miles of tunnels under Gaza, where the hostages are being kept. No, they are not all kept together. Some, early on were kept in homes above ground, but many were and are underground.

Anonymous wrote:It is about wiping out the Palestinians so Jared can develop the beachfront property in Gaza.

There isn't an altrusitic bone in any of these people's bodies.

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Anonymous wrote:In assuming that Israel already suspects that all the hostages are already dead and they have proceeded accordingly.

No, Israel knows that not all the hostages are dead, it’s just that they don’t care. Israeli military has long operated on the “Hannibal Directive” - that any IDF soldier under threat of being killed could be shot by other IDF. This protocol was employed during Oct 7th when the order was given to use maximum force (i.e. lethal force) to prevent the return of vehicles to Gaza after the Oct 7 attack. More here - https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israel-idf-hannibal-protocol-hamas-attack-haaretz

It is assumed that the Israeli military and political establishment has essentially applied the Hannibal principle to the hostages - whether alive or dead, the Israeli government will not negotiate for their return - the hostages are essentially dead to the Israeli government unless they have immediately actionable intelligence that they could use to conduct a recovery raid with minimal risk of casualties. (Fairly unlikely, but has happened once.)

It is thought that about half of the hostages (mix of military and civilian) are alive (50-60ish).

Where would they have been kept, underground for over a year? Did Humas keep them all together,? There is no way this many could still be alive and even if they be are Humas will return them DOA. I am looking forward to trump stopping all wars on Day 1! What a joke.

Yes, there are hundreds of miles of tunnels under Gaza, where the hostages are being kept. No, they are not all kept together. Some, early on were kept in homes above ground, but many were and are underground.

Too bad there were no tunnels. When will you all stop with the endless propaganda? Please provide independent sources that is credible!

Shouldn’t you be out blowing up Red Cross stations or soup kitchens? Oh what about a preschool or a hospital? You can blow it up and say there was high level Hamas leadership but never name who it is.

No tunnels? That's a straight-up delusional lie. Begone, liar.

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Anonymous wrote:In assuming that Israel already suspects that all the hostages are already dead and they have proceeded accordingly.

No, Israel knows that not all the hostages are dead, it’s just that they don’t care. Israeli military has long operated on the “Hannibal Directive” - that any IDF soldier under threat of being killed could be shot by other IDF. This protocol was employed during Oct 7th when the order was given to use maximum force (i.e. lethal force) to prevent the return of vehicles to Gaza after the Oct 7 attack. More here - https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israel-idf-hannibal-protocol-hamas-attack-haaretz

It is assumed that the Israeli military and political establishment has essentially applied the Hannibal principle to the hostages - whether alive or dead, the Israeli government will not negotiate for their return - the hostages are essentially dead to the Israeli government unless they have immediately actionable intelligence that they could use to conduct a recovery raid with minimal risk of casualties. (Fairly unlikely, but has happened once.)

It is thought that about half of the hostages (mix of military and civilian) are alive (50-60ish).

Where would they have been kept, underground for over a year? Did Humas keep them all together,? There is no way this many could still be alive and even if they be are Humas will return them DOA. I am looking forward to trump stopping all wars on Day 1! What a joke.

Yes, there are hundreds of miles of tunnels under Gaza, where the hostages are being kept. No, they are not all kept together. Some, early on were kept in homes above ground, but many were and are underground.

Too bad there were no tunnels. When will you all stop with the endless propaganda? Please provide independent sources that is credible!

Shouldn’t you be out blowing up Red Cross stations or soup kitchens? Oh what about a preschool or a hospital? You can blow it up and say there was high level Hamas leadership but never name who it is.

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Palestine could have been an independent state for 80 years now. And it'd be an enviable state with borders from the green hills on the border with Lebanon to the Mediterranean coast to urban areas like Hebron, Nablus, Ramallah, and Acre, and a contigious nation that went all the way down to Gaza and the Negev.

In 1914, modern Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, and Kuwait didn't exist.

Only the Palestinian Arabs chose to be absolute morons and say no to an independent country once the Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1918. Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq - none of these are perfect nation states and yet they still managed to become vibrant, authentic countries. It was only the Palestinians that went to war for an ethno-state. And it was a stupid decision.

Now they choose Hamas and hated Iran

They made an extremely poor decision invading Israel on 10/7. No one in the Arab world supported that. And Palestinians are going to be paying for their stupid decisions for another 100 years. Until there is a revolution among Palestinians and they choose different leadership, it is hopeless for them.

Wow nice re-writing of history, after the Ottoman Empire fell, the British occupied Palestine. And they did what they’re known for doing.

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Anonymous wrote:In assuming that Israel already suspects that all the hostages are already dead and they have proceeded accordingly.

No, Israel knows that not all the hostages are dead, it’s just that they don’t care. Israeli military has long operated on the “Hannibal Directive” - that any IDF soldier under threat of being killed could be shot by other IDF. This protocol was employed during Oct 7th when the order was given to use maximum force (i.e. lethal force) to prevent the return of vehicles to Gaza after the Oct 7 attack. More here - https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israel-idf-hannibal-protocol-hamas-attack-haaretz

It is assumed that the Israeli military and political establishment has essentially applied the Hannibal principle to the hostages - whether alive or dead, the Israeli government will not negotiate for their return - the hostages are essentially dead to the Israeli government unless they have immediately actionable intelligence that they could use to conduct a recovery raid with minimal risk of casualties. (Fairly unlikely, but has happened once.)

It is thought that about half of the hostages (mix of military and civilian) are alive (50-60ish).

Where would they have been kept, underground for over a year? Did Humas keep them all together,? There is no way this many could still be alive and even if they be are Humas will return them DOA. I am looking forward to trump stopping all wars on Day 1! What a joke.

Yes, there are hundreds of miles of tunnels under Gaza, where the hostages are being kept. No, they are not all kept together. Some, early on were kept in homes above ground, but many were and are underground.

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Anonymous wrote:In assuming that Israel already suspects that all the hostages are already dead and they have proceeded accordingly.

No, Israel knows that not all the hostages are dead, it’s just that they don’t care. Israeli military has long operated on the “Hannibal Directive” - that any IDF soldier under threat of being killed could be shot by other IDF. This protocol was employed during Oct 7th when the order was given to use maximum force (i.e. lethal force) to prevent the return of vehicles to Gaza after the Oct 7 attack. More here - https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israel-idf-hannibal-protocol-hamas-attack-haaretz

It is assumed that the Israeli military and political establishment has essentially applied the Hannibal principle to the hostages - whether alive or dead, the Israeli government will not negotiate for their return - the hostages are essentially dead to the Israeli government unless they have immediately actionable intelligence that they could use to conduct a recovery raid with minimal risk of casualties. (Fairly unlikely, but has happened once.)

It is thought that about half of the hostages (mix of military and civilian) are alive (50-60ish).

Where would they have been kept, underground for over a year? Did Humas keep them all together,? There is no way this many could still be alive and even if they be are Humas will return them DOA. I am looking forward to trump stopping all wars on Day 1! What a joke.

Yes, there are hundreds of miles of tunnels under Gaza, where the hostages are being kept. No, they are not all kept together. Some, early on were kept in homes above ground, but many were and are underground.

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Anonymous wrote:In assuming that Israel already suspects that all the hostages are already dead and they have proceeded accordingly.

No, Israel knows that not all the hostages are dead, it’s just that they don’t care. Israeli military has long operated on the “Hannibal Directive” - that any IDF soldier under threat of being killed could be shot by other IDF. This protocol was employed during Oct 7th when the order was given to use maximum force (i.e. lethal force) to prevent the return of vehicles to Gaza after the Oct 7 attack. More here - https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israel-idf-hannibal-protocol-hamas-attack-haaretz

It is assumed that the Israeli military and political establishment has essentially applied the Hannibal principle to the hostages - whether alive or dead, the Israeli government will not negotiate for their return - the hostages are essentially dead to the Israeli government unless they have immediately actionable intelligence that they could use to conduct a recovery raid with minimal risk of casualties. (Fairly unlikely, but has happened once.)

It is thought that about half of the hostages (mix of military and civilian) are alive (50-60ish).

Where would they have been kept, underground for over a year? Did Humas keep them all together,? There is no way this many could still be alive and even if they be are Humas will return them DOA. I am looking forward to trump stopping all wars on Day 1! What a joke.

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Palestine could have been an independent state for 80 years now. And it'd be an enviable state with borders from the green hills on the border with Lebanon to the Mediterranean coast to urban areas like Hebron, Nablus, Ramallah, and Acre, and a contigious nation that went all the way down to Gaza and the Negev.

In 1914, modern Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, and Kuwait didn't exist.

Only the Palestinian Arabs chose to be absolute morons and say no to an independent country once the Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1918. Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq - none of these are perfect nation states and yet they still managed to become vibrant, authentic countries. It was only the Palestinians that went to war for an ethno-state. And it was a stupid decision.

Now they choose Hamas and hated Iran

They made an extremely poor decision invading Israel on 10/7. No one in the Arab world supported that. And Palestinians are going to be paying for their stupid decisions for another 100 years. Until there is a revolution among Palestinians and they choose different leadership, it is hopeless for them.