Anonymous wrote:We'll never know which one did it, but as others have said it was mostly likely Burke. They lost one child, didn't want to lose their other which is understandable. The police knew all this in the beginning.

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Anonymous wrote:Also the Ramseys didn’t have a plane. More trash that was made up about them.

Whoever posted that super long explanation of the family cover-up is relying on old outdated Reddit threads that have been debunked.

That person keeps posting and doesn’t care that their facts are wrong. The ransom note wasn’t 3 pages. It was weirdly long! But it wasn’t 3 pages.

It was 3 pages - the evidence is public and you can google the image yourself::

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the family did it theory.

Why was she tasered?

She was tortured. The garret are whatever is used to torture- she clawed away at it. She was alive during that and the sex abuse. You really think the mom or dad would have tortured her to cover up? That seems implausible.

And why did the police not release dna evidence after they found it in mid January? Why did they have to be sued to let the outside detective, who was highly skilled, present his intruder theory ti the grand jury.

Why didn’t anyone mention the serial rapist who was running around boulder breaking into the houses and hiding out for hours until everyone was asleep and then finding young girls to rape? Just a coincidence or was that patsy ramsey too?

I feel like some of you didn’t watch this documentary.

Someone in the police department was deeply corrupt. I’m wondering if a cop was the serial rapist and needed to cover up.

She wasn’t tasered. The marks on her back matched the tracks of burkes electric train set, which was set up in the basement. He knocked her unconscious with the flashlight after an altercation -likely after luring her down to the basement cellar to look at unopened Christmas presents for their upcoming trip with John’s kids from his first marriage. She was unconscious and when he couldn’t wake her up, poked her and experimented with her with the train tracks, a paintbrush and ultimately strangled her with a garrote, whether intentionally or not. Her bladder let loose this point on the carpet outside the cellar. Literally everything from the violent part of the attack was from materials in the kitchen and basement.

Patsy never went to sleep that night, was up late packing or whatnot, discovered the scene. She let out a blood curdling scream which a neighbor reported hearing. She found JB strangled to death - did not know she’d been knocked unconscious first with a fatal brain injury - and staged an abduction with duct tape over her mouth (that patsy’s sweater fibers were found on, and was undisturbed, proving it had been applied after jonbenet was already deceased.) she also used the same string as the garrote to loosely tie jonbenets wrists. She wiped down her legs and put new unopened underwear on her (”days of the week” underwear she had purchased from bloomingdales for an older niece.) wrapped her in a blanket that the housekeeper had left in the dryer, in fact, so recently removed that a nightgown was stuck to it with static.

She then wrote a three page ransom note with materials from the kitchen. Neighbors reported seeing dim lights on in the kitchen around 3am. John, who had taken a sleeping pill the night before expecting to fly their plane to Michigan, woke up to a scene of a staged ransom note and patsy calling 911. patsy called a bunch of friends over and got Burke out of the house, which is NOT what normal parents would do after their other child had been abducted. He knew something was off but did not figure out the full extent of things until the time for a ransom call came and went, and he disappears for an hour to the basement where he discovered jonbenet. He completed some elements of staging. Patsy was still wearing the same clothes and makeup as the night prior, indicating that she never slept.

The sole suitcase found in the basement was probably there to try to remove her from the house, but rigor mortis had set in by that point.

A few hours later, in searching the house again, John made a beeline for the cellar where they discovered jonbenet. that evening, John tried to get the family out of state to Atlanta, which the police informed them they could not do.

Burke never showed concern for his missing sister or for his own safety. And he indicated to police before autopsy results were available that he knew how JB died - that a “a bad guy” had hit her over the head.

Burke had a history of psychological behaviors - including police finding his fecal matter in jonbenets room and on a box of chocolates she’d received for Christmas - and had attempted to hit her in the head with a golf club the summer prior. He was troubled and likely not being adequately treated.

A horrible case but most likely scenario of what happened.

There's zero doubt one of the three did it, but yes likely Burke.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the family did it theory.

Why was she tasered?

She was tortured. The garret are whatever is used to torture- she clawed away at it. She was alive during that and the sex abuse. You really think the mom or dad would have tortured her to cover up? That seems implausible.

And why did the police not release dna evidence after they found it in mid January? Why did they have to be sued to let the outside detective, who was highly skilled, present his intruder theory ti the grand jury.

Why didn’t anyone mention the serial rapist who was running around boulder breaking into the houses and hiding out for hours until everyone was asleep and then finding young girls to rape? Just a coincidence or was that patsy ramsey too?

I feel like some of you didn’t watch this documentary.

Someone in the police department was deeply corrupt. I’m wondering if a cop was the serial rapist and needed to cover up.

She wasn’t tasered. The marks on her back matched the tracks of burkes electric train set, which was set up in the basement. He knocked her unconscious with the flashlight after an altercation -likely after luring her down to the basement cellar to look at unopened Christmas presents for their upcoming trip with John’s kids from his first marriage. She was unconscious and when he couldn’t wake her up, poked her and experimented with her with the train tracks, a paintbrush and ultimately strangled her with a garrote, whether intentionally or not. Her bladder let loose this point on the carpet outside the cellar. Literally everything from the violent part of the attack was from materials in the kitchen and basement.

Patsy never went to sleep that night, was up late packing or whatnot, discovered the scene. She let out a blood curdling scream which a neighbor reported hearing. She found JB strangled to death - did not know she’d been knocked unconscious first with a fatal brain injury - and staged an abduction with duct tape over her mouth (that patsy’s sweater fibers were found on, and was undisturbed, proving it had been applied after jonbenet was already deceased.) she also used the same string as the garrote to loosely tie jonbenets wrists. She wiped down her legs and put new unopened underwear on her (”days of the week” underwear she had purchased from bloomingdales for an older niece.) wrapped her in a blanket that the housekeeper had left in the dryer, in fact, so recently removed that a nightgown was stuck to it with static.

She then wrote a three page ransom note with materials from the kitchen. Neighbors reported seeing dim lights on in the kitchen around 3am. John, who had taken a sleeping pill the night before expecting to fly their plane to Michigan, woke up to a scene of a staged ransom note and patsy calling 911. patsy called a bunch of friends over and got Burke out of the house, which is NOT what normal parents would do after their other child had been abducted. He knew something was off but did not figure out the full extent of things until the time for a ransom call came and went, and he disappears for an hour to the basement where he discovered jonbenet. He completed some elements of staging. Patsy was still wearing the same clothes and makeup as the night prior, indicating that she never slept.

The sole suitcase found in the basement was probably there to try to remove her from the house, but rigor mortis had set in by that point.

A few hours later, in searching the house again, John made a beeline for the cellar where they discovered jonbenet. that evening, John tried to get the family out of state to Atlanta, which the police informed them they could not do.

Burke never showed concern for his missing sister or for his own safety. And he indicated to police before autopsy results were available that he knew how JB died - that a “a bad guy” had hit her over the head.

Burke had a history of psychological behaviors - including police finding his fecal matter in jonbenets room and on a box of chocolates she’d received for Christmas - and had attempted to hit her in the head with a golf club the summer prior. He was troubled and likely not being adequately treated.

A horrible case but most likely scenario of what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Who did it?

The most plausible theory is that Burke whacked her on the back of her head (had hit her before), maybe while she was eating his pineapple. She was dead or half-dead, Burke played doctor with her body. Patty found JB and staged the body to look like an intruder had taken her to the basement, to protect Burke and the family reputation. Then wrote the ransom note and called the police. John may or may not have been involved.

It's the only scenario that makes some kind of sense, not that any of it makes any kind of sense. But there is no evidence of an intruder, and the tiny amount of DNA is probably from the manufacturing of the underwear. So all points to the family.

Also the fact that the ransom note said a call would come at x time and both parents were oblivious when x time came and went.

That suggests John was involved, or at least knew. No way both parents wouldn't be hyperventilating by the phone if they thought she had been kidnapped.

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Anonymous wrote:Who did it?

The most plausible theory is that Burke whacked her on the back of her head (had hit her before), maybe while she was eating his pineapple. She was dead or half-dead, Burke played doctor with her body. Patty found JB and staged the body to look like an intruder had taken her to the basement, to protect Burke and the family reputation. Then wrote the ransom note and called the police. John may or may not have been involved.

It's the only scenario that makes some kind of sense, not that any of it makes any kind of sense. But there is no evidence of an intruder, and the tiny amount of DNA is probably from the manufacturing of the underwear. So all points to the family.

Also the fact that the ransom note said a call would come at x time and both parents were oblivious when x time came and went.

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Anonymous wrote:Who did it?

The most plausible theory is that Burke whacked her on the back of her head (had hit her before), maybe while she was eating his pineapple. She was dead or half-dead, Burke played doctor with her body. Patty found JB and staged the body to look like an intruder had taken her to the basement, to protect Burke and the family reputation. Then wrote the ransom note and called the police. John may or may not have been involved.

It's the only scenario that makes some kind of sense, not that any of it makes any kind of sense. But there is no evidence of an intruder, and the tiny amount of DNA is probably from the manufacturing of the underwear. So all points to the family.

Anonymous wrote:Who did it?

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Anonymous wrote:Also the Ramseys didn’t have a plane. More trash that was made up about them.

Whoever posted that super long explanation of the family cover-up is relying on old outdated Reddit threads that have been debunked.

That person keeps posting and doesn’t care that their facts are wrong. The ransom note wasn’t 3 pages. It was weirdly long! But it wasn’t 3 pages.