Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 20:44     Subject: Re:Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids would have broken up the fight, sad there are kids that stand around and video tape.


Your kids would not have broken up the fight, and if they actually did they would run a serious risk.

Teachers used to break up fights but most teachers now absolutely will not because so many have been injured. Teachers also realize nothing really happens to the kids fighting so why are they going to risk getting hurt when the kid is back in class later that day or the next day. Look up the suspension rate for Whitman. My guess is it is at or close to zero.


Yes they would and they have and yes they get a 1 day suspension. IDGAF.

Teach your kids to do better.

There is a security guard in the video.


Nope. It didn't happen recently and not at Whitman. The give away is your kid got a 1 day suspension. No way your kid is currently at Whitman or in MCPS and has broken up a fight and then got a 1 days suspension.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 20:43     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

I can hardly even believe that stuff like this is happening in schools in the US. Those thugs should be in prison.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 20:32     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Does anyone know how many kids are in the NCCF program for teens with violent convictions?
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 20:30     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

What happened to the security guard that was at the start of the video? Did he leave?
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 20:19     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not exactly sure when this happened https://x.com/m4lmoco/status/1859335597313134860?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ


If you engage in this type of behavior, you forfeit your right to an education. At least at that school.


LOL

No, that’s not how it works. All kids have a right to an education.

Though, MCPS will happily move kids around from school to school.


They have a right to an education but it should be at a special school/facility or the parents should be required to attend classes with their child and make them behavior. Or, they can do homeschool, virtual school, pathways to graduation, etc. Lots of optons. Or that medical program.


Omg—the last thing we want is these kids parents in classes with them. I guarantee that will not be better. But there should be an intensive services school for them and if that’s impossible for some reason, virtual schooling. Yes, they probably won’t take advantage of the virtual schooling but they aren’t taking advantage of the in person schooling either.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 19:19     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad that our superintendent decided to write a system wide email about safety in our schools on the heels of this and many other violent incidents. Oh wait, his email was about psychological safety in the context of public discourse around illegal immigration. Good to see where his priorities are.


Entire county has lost it big time. Don't adress violent crime but talk about undocumenteded students, huh. Just abasket case.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 18:26     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad that our superintendent decided to write a system wide email about safety in our schools on the heels of this and many other violent incidents. Oh wait, his email was about psychological safety in the context of public discourse around illegal immigration. Good to see where his priorities are.


It shows who Taylor is scared of in this county: CASA and Identity.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 18:23     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad that our superintendent decided to write a system wide email about safety in our schools on the heels of this and many other violent incidents. Oh wait, his email was about psychological safety in the context of public discourse around illegal immigration. Good to see where his priorities are.


At least our undocumented students can feel safe knowing that local officials will NOT cooperate with federal immigration laws. Yep, clear priorities and right in line with the priorities of our local politicians.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 18:18     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not exactly sure when this happened https://x.com/m4lmoco/status/1859335597313134860?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ


If you engage in this type of behavior, you forfeit your right to an education. At least at that school.


LOL

No, that’s not how it works. All kids have a right to an education.

Though, MCPS will happily move kids around from school to school.


They have a right to an education but it should be at a special school/facility or the parents should be required to attend classes with their child and make them behavior. Or, they can do homeschool, virtual school, pathways to graduation, etc. Lots of optons. Or that medical program.


These are kids in a shelter. Their parents are likely not able to attend high school with them. The parents may have their own issues.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 18:14     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just get attention because it’s Whitman.

This is happening in every high school and even middle schools in our county. Yet it gets covered up and the same bullies and aggravators are allowed back in because they can’t be expelled. Expel them!


And then what happens to these expelled kids?


That will be their parent’s problem to solve. Looks like they’ll have to step up and start parenting. Real consequences for crime. Unlike Jwando and Mink, I don’t think these kids who are assaulting other kids need to stay within the public school system.


And when they don't?

Their parents either don't care, are dead, or are terrified of their own children.

Wishing is not a strategy.
Prison, where they clearly belong.


1000%
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 18:11     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

I’m glad that our superintendent decided to write a system wide email about safety in our schools on the heels of this and many other violent incidents. Oh wait, his email was about psychological safety in the context of public discourse around illegal immigration. Good to see where his priorities are.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 18:09     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My child was involved in a similar assault; he was the victim, and the perpetrator was also a minority. The school did nothing despite us reporting the incident to the SRO and county police as an official report. We never heard back. The only consequence the perpetrator faced was a few days of in-school suspension, even though the child was a known repeat offender.

There is a push to avoid the punitive school-to-jail pipeline, but the side effect is that kids realize they won't face serious consequences, so they continue these behaviors. There is no accountability within the school system or even the juvenile justice system. This lack of accountability contributes to the rise in juvenile crime. The focus on avoiding punishment in favor of rehabilitation is often exploited by kids, and if the child is from an underrepresented minority group, there seems to be even less incentive to pursue any form of punishment.


The one thing MCPS hates is bad publicity. You have to threaten them that you will go to the local news.


I would have gotten an attorney and sued MCPS and filed a police report on teh child. Enough is enough.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 18:08     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not exactly sure when this happened https://x.com/m4lmoco/status/1859335597313134860?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ


If you engage in this type of behavior, you forfeit your right to an education. At least at that school.


LOL

No, that’s not how it works. All kids have a right to an education.

Though, MCPS will happily move kids around from school to school.


They have a right to an education but it should be at a special school/facility or the parents should be required to attend classes with their child and make them behavior. Or, they can do homeschool, virtual school, pathways to graduation, etc. Lots of optons. Or that medical program.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 18:08     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Anonymous wrote:My child was involved in a similar assault; he was the victim, and the perpetrator was also a minority. The school did nothing despite us reporting the incident to the SRO and county police as an official report. We never heard back. The only consequence the perpetrator faced was a few days of in-school suspension, even though the child was a known repeat offender.

There is a push to avoid the punitive school-to-jail pipeline, but the side effect is that kids realize they won't face serious consequences, so they continue these behaviors. There is no accountability within the school system or even the juvenile justice system. This lack of accountability contributes to the rise in juvenile crime. The focus on avoiding punishment in favor of rehabilitation is often exploited by kids, and if the child is from an underrepresented minority group, there seems to be even less incentive to pursue any form of punishment.


The one thing MCPS hates is bad publicity. You have to threaten them that you will go to the local news.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2024 18:07     Subject: Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

Anonymous wrote:How do we get rid of Marc Elrich. He has got to go


We just voted for that. He now has a 2 term limit so can't run again.

In fairness, while MCPS has challenges, in this particular instance we are just dealing with issues in other parts of the state. These kids happen to end up in a shelter within the Whitman boundary so are eligible to attend the school. I don't think MCPS can or should say that kids residing in bounds can't go to the school (until they do something like this obviously). But I also don't think the kids themselves are well served by a school that can't really serve their learning needs or behavioral needs.