Anonymous wrote:I grew up in the DC area and feds always had the reputation of being lazy. I’m sad that Trump got reelected but happy that his administration will trim them down. Many get paid for not doing much at all.

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in the DC area and feds always had the reputation of being lazy. I’m sad that Trump got reelected but happy that his administration will trim them down. Many get paid for not doing much at all.

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-People who know how to game the system, including use of EEOC and ADA, and do just enough to never get fired. It is genuinely very difficult to get rid of an average to below average employee who can show intermittent periods of doing their job.

And of course there are people in public service who work very hard.

So shouldn't everyone have a some type of income? Should we just fire people because they had a bad year, bad week or got sick? I know many amazing workers who fell ill with cancer, lost a loved one or had a mental health issue. Their work suffered because they couldn't take time off without a paycheck. So they just muddled along until they could get back on their feet professionally.

I find that many Americans want to see people fired, not the street, begging and groveling if they aren't working at 100 percent and firing on all cylinders every day of every year. People should be fired for major screw ups like in medicine, science, architecture and data breaches. But in my years in government, much of the work that people think is fireable is actually laughable. I worked for an overeducated, prep school elite woman who would write paragraphs in emails that were akin to Jane Austin. I couldn't believe she held her position. She said she was such a hard worker, but really it was full of fluff. She also had a son with special needs and was going through a divorce. Should she get fired? I mean what do people think happens to all these unemployed people? They end up on the streets and it isn't a good look for society. Look at California. Hard working people are sleeping on the steps of Rodeo Drive because they were fired. Do we really want a society where all we do is fire people because they are not performing like robots?

This is one of the craziest things I’ve ever read on dcum.

Feds are not being fired for not firing on all cylinders nonstop. 99% of feds are fired for egregious actions- working a 2nd job at work (using gov computer, gov printers), misuse of government funds, not showing up to work, or criminal activity.

Someone with a special needs kid going through a divorce gets a lot of grace. Reasonable accommodations are a change of schedule, ability to go to doctors appts during the day. But even still, we need work to get done. How is it fair to coworkers that they have to do their work plus yours?

I am concerned for the future of work in general. Gen Z has a lot of mental issues and wants everyone else to work harder to accommodate them. I’m a millennial and completely understand mental issues, but I feel like you can’t bring it to work or let it interfere with your life. They’re making their mental issues their entire life.

COVID shutdowns and social media has done them in hard.

That's exactly how Gen X felt about y'all when you showed up. Kids these days huh? Every generation has felt this way when the younger ones shake up the status quo.

Okay except I’ve seen it first hand. I have coworkers that don’t do in person meetings because they’re autistic, and they tell you first time they meet you. Also had an employee requesting sick leave due to their anxiety/issues over the election.

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-People who know how to game the system, including use of EEOC and ADA, and do just enough to never get fired. It is genuinely very difficult to get rid of an average to below average employee who can show intermittent periods of doing their job.

And of course there are people in public service who work very hard.

So shouldn't everyone have a some type of income? Should we just fire people because they had a bad year, bad week or got sick? I know many amazing workers who fell ill with cancer, lost a loved one or had a mental health issue. Their work suffered because they couldn't take time off without a paycheck. So they just muddled along until they could get back on their feet professionally.

I find that many Americans want to see people fired, not the street, begging and groveling if they aren't working at 100 percent and firing on all cylinders every day of every year. People should be fired for major screw ups like in medicine, science, architecture and data breaches. But in my years in government, much of the work that people think is fireable is actually laughable. I worked for an overeducated, prep school elite woman who would write paragraphs in emails that were akin to Jane Austin. I couldn't believe she held her position. She said she was such a hard worker, but really it was full of fluff. She also had a son with special needs and was going through a divorce. Should she get fired? I mean what do people think happens to all these unemployed people? They end up on the streets and it isn't a good look for society. Look at California. Hard working people are sleeping on the steps of Rodeo Drive because they were fired. Do we really want a society where all we do is fire people because they are not performing like robots?

This is one of the craziest things I’ve ever read on dcum.

Feds are not being fired for not firing on all cylinders nonstop. 99% of feds are fired for egregious actions- working a 2nd job at work (using gov computer, gov printers), misuse of government funds, not showing up to work, or criminal activity.

Someone with a special needs kid going through a divorce gets a lot of grace. Reasonable accommodations are a change of schedule, ability to go to doctors appts during the day. But even still, we need work to get done. How is it fair to coworkers that they have to do their work plus yours?

I am concerned for the future of work in general. Gen Z has a lot of mental issues and wants everyone else to work harder to accommodate them. I’m a millennial and completely understand mental issues, but I feel like you can’t bring it to work or let it interfere with your life. They’re making their mental issues their entire life.

COVID shutdowns and social media has done them in hard.

That's exactly how Gen X felt about y'all when you showed up. Kids these days huh? Every generation has felt this way when the younger ones shake up the status quo.

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-People who know how to game the system, including use of EEOC and ADA, and do just enough to never get fired. It is genuinely very difficult to get rid of an average to below average employee who can show intermittent periods of doing their job.

And of course there are people in public service who work very hard.

So shouldn't everyone have a some type of income? Should we just fire people because they had a bad year, bad week or got sick? I know many amazing workers who fell ill with cancer, lost a loved one or had a mental health issue. Their work suffered because they couldn't take time off without a paycheck. So they just muddled along until they could get back on their feet professionally.

I find that many Americans want to see people fired, not the street, begging and groveling if they aren't working at 100 percent and firing on all cylinders every day of every year. People should be fired for major screw ups like in medicine, science, architecture and data breaches. But in my years in government, much of the work that people think is fireable is actually laughable. I worked for an overeducated, prep school elite woman who would write paragraphs in emails that were akin to Jane Austin. I couldn't believe she held her position. She said she was such a hard worker, but really it was full of fluff. She also had a son with special needs and was going through a divorce. Should she get fired? I mean what do people think happens to all these unemployed people? They end up on the streets and it isn't a good look for society. Look at California. Hard working people are sleeping on the steps of Rodeo Drive because they were fired. Do we really want a society where all we do is fire people because they are not performing like robots?

This is one of the craziest things I’ve ever read on dcum.

Feds are not being fired for not firing on all cylinders nonstop. 99% of feds are fired for egregious actions- working a 2nd job at work (using gov computer, gov printers), misuse of government funds, not showing up to work, or criminal activity.

Someone with a special needs kid going through a divorce gets a lot of grace. Reasonable accommodations are a change of schedule, ability to go to doctors appts during the day. But even still, we need work to get done. How is it fair to coworkers that they have to do their work plus yours?

I am concerned for the future of work in general. Gen Z has a lot of mental issues and wants everyone else to work harder to accommodate them. I’m a millennial and completely understand mental issues, but I feel like you can’t bring it to work or let it interfere with your life. They’re making their mental issues their entire life.

COVID shutdowns and social media has done them in hard.

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-People who know how to game the system, including use of EEOC and ADA, and do just enough to never get fired. It is genuinely very difficult to get rid of an average to below average employee who can show intermittent periods of doing their job.

And of course there are people in public service who work very hard.

So shouldn't everyone have a some type of income? Should we just fire people because they had a bad year, bad week or got sick? I know many amazing workers who fell ill with cancer, lost a loved one or had a mental health issue. Their work suffered because they couldn't take time off without a paycheck. So they just muddled along until they could get back on their feet professionally.

I find that many Americans want to see people fired, not the street, begging and groveling if they aren't working at 100 percent and firing on all cylinders every day of every year. People should be fired for major screw ups like in medicine, science, architecture and data breaches. But in my years in government, much of the work that people think is fireable is actually laughable. I worked for an overeducated, prep school elite woman who would write paragraphs in emails that were akin to Jane Austin. I couldn't believe she held her position. She said she was such a hard worker, but really it was full of fluff. She also had a son with special needs and was going through a divorce. Should she get fired? I mean what do people think happens to all these unemployed people? They end up on the streets and it isn't a good look for society. Look at California. Hard working people are sleeping on the steps of Rodeo Drive because they were fired. Do we really want a society where all we do is fire people because they are not performing like robots?

This is one of the craziest things I’ve ever read on dcum.

Feds are not being fired for not firing on all cylinders nonstop. 99% of feds are fired for egregious actions- working a 2nd job at work (using gov computer, gov printers), misuse of government funds, not showing up to work, or criminal activity.

Someone with a special needs kid going through a divorce gets a lot of grace. Reasonable accommodations are a change of schedule, ability to go to doctors appts during the day. But even still, we need work to get done. How is it fair to coworkers that they have to do their work plus yours?

I am concerned for the future of work in general. Gen Z has a lot of mental issues and wants everyone else to work harder to accommodate them. I’m a millennial and completely understand mental issues, but I feel like you can’t bring it to work or let it interfere with your life. They’re making their mental issues their entire life.

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Anonymous wrote:
-People who know how to game the system, including use of EEOC and ADA, and do just enough to never get fired. It is genuinely very difficult to get rid of an average to below average employee who can show intermittent periods of doing their job.

And of course there are people in public service who work very hard.

So shouldn't everyone have a some type of income? Should we just fire people because they had a bad year, bad week or got sick? I know many amazing workers who fell ill with cancer, lost a loved one or had a mental health issue. Their work suffered because they couldn't take time off without a paycheck. So they just muddled along until they could get back on their feet professionally.

I find that many Americans want to see people fired, not the street, begging and groveling if they aren't working at 100 percent and firing on all cylinders every day of every year. People should be fired for major screw ups like in medicine, science, architecture and data breaches. But in my years in government, much of the work that people think is fireable is actually laughable. I worked for an overeducated, prep school elite woman who would write paragraphs in emails that were akin to Jane Austin. I couldn't believe she held her position. She said she was such a hard worker, but really it was full of fluff. She also had a son with special needs and was going through a divorce. Should she get fired? I mean what do people think happens to all these unemployed people? They end up on the streets and it isn't a good look for society. Look at California. Hard working people are sleeping on the steps of Rodeo Drive because they were fired. Do we really want a society where all we do is fire people because they are not performing like robots?

Anonymous wrote:I was a fed for several years and it depends on where you work. Many feds are hardworking, many are not.
Here's where I've worked:
NIH: Almost everyone was passionate, smart, committed, and worked long hours.
FDA: huge step down from NIH. Snail's pace, parochial, clock watching
CDC: Smart and hardworking, lot of great people.
MHS: (Military Health headquarters) Lazy, lazy, lazy. Nothing got done. Cronyism, passing the buck, toxic

Anonymous wrote:Who are all these unicorn fed workers who work longer hours than biglaw?

Listen, i don't begrudge any of you your very sweet fed gigs. The pay is lower, the work often less rewarding and more, well, governmental.

But I have many, many highly competent friends in DC who work for the feds (some straight out of grad school, and some many years after a private sector career). And I've only ever know a handful of them who work past 5:30pm. That's the whole point of federal govt. None of them would say that their jobs or their colleagues' jobs require long hours.

Weird that all 16 fed workers out of 3 million who work 60 hours a week are all on dcum.

Anonymous wrote:Who are all these unicorn fed workers who work longer hours than biglaw?

Listen, i don't begrudge any of you your very sweet fed gigs. The pay is lower, the work often less rewarding and more, well, governmental.

But I have many, many highly competent friends in DC who work for the feds (some straight out of grad school, and some many years after a private sector career). And I've only ever know a handful of them who work past 5:30pm. That's the whole point of federal govt. None of them would say that their jobs or their colleagues' jobs require long hours.

Weird that all 16 fed workers out of 3 million who work 60 hours a week are all on dcum.