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Anonymous wrote:Pete is a grunt. Grunts are the guys who don’t leave anyone behind and have actual skin in the game.

Of course dcum doesn’t like him, he works for a living.

I will take a grunt over 10,000 4 star generals any day of the week.

Will you now? Thanks for your deep insight. We were waiting to see which side you were going to fall on this one.

Anonymous wrote:Pete is a grunt. Grunts are the guys who don’t leave anyone behind and have actual skin in the game.

Of course dcum doesn’t like him, he works for a living.

I will take a grunt over 10,000 4 star generals any day of the week.

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Anonymous wrote:Wtf

Princeton ROTC. Served active in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Gitmo. Bronze star. A political and media creature since then, but still serves in the Guard. At least he can relate to being in the military.

Oh well...if he can relate to being in the military then sign him up. It is the Secretary of defense so being able to relate to being in the military would be such a great quality.

The current one was previously a four star general

The one who decided to have surgery without telling anyone - not even his second in command? That one?
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Wasn’t he in the hospital having a terrible medical crisis and didn’t inform the president? Nobody knew?

That’s the fantastic executive skills dcum progressives are so enthralled with; he’s a 4 star, in charge of everything, service members around the world are under his command, and that’s what happened. Unbelievable.

Let an e4 miss formation and see what happens, but Lloyd Austin is hospitalized and tells no one.

So he's such a bad pick you guys have already resorted to "waddabout"...

DP. Sorry, but you know the PP is correct. You have no leg to stand on.

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Anonymous wrote:I get he wants to own the libs but can we not play around with national security? There isn’t a single republican general around to take this job?

Generals are perfumed princes. They are basically politicians. That’s it .

It's the Secretary of defense. If it's always a general or other top rank in that position, maybe it's important to have a skilled politician that also achieved a top rank in that role.

Well, I am a vet who would rather be led by the guy with a CIB. Period.

Literally, you are likely more qualified than this guy.

What’s your military experience?

DP. Just out of curiosity, I looked up some former Sec. Defs. Here are the ones who were appointed by Democratic presidents:

Ashton B. Carter
Barack Obama Administration: ZERO military experience

Chuck Hagel
Barack Obama Administration: fought in Vietnam as enlisted, left as Sergeant (which I believe is lower than Major?)

YES

Leon E. Panetta
Barack Obama Administration: ZERO military experience, unless you count two years as a young Army intel officer

Robert M. Gates
George W. Bush / Barack Obama Administration: left Air Force as 2nd Lieutenant (lower than Major, correct?)

YES


William S. Cohen
William Clinton Administration: ZERO military experience

Leslie Aspin
William Clinton Administration: ZERO military experience

The point isn't to diminish the wealth of *other* experience all of these men had, but simply to point out that having military experience is NOT a criterion for the job.

https://history.defense.gov/Multimedia/Biographies/Article-View/Article/571296/ashton-b-carter/

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Anonymous wrote:I get he wants to own the libs but can we not play around with national security? There isn’t a single republican general around to take this job?

Generals are perfumed princes. They are basically politicians. That’s it .

It's the Secretary of defense. If it's always a general or other top rank in that position, maybe it's important to have a skilled politician that also achieved a top rank in that role.

Well, I am a vet who would rather be led by the guy with a CIB. Period.

Literally, you are likely more qualified than this guy.

What’s your military experience?

DP. Just out of curiosity, I looked up some former Sec. Defs. Here are the ones who were appointed by Democratic presidents:

Ashton B. Carter
Barack Obama Administration: ZERO military experience

Chuck Hagel
Barack Obama Administration: fought in Vietnam as enlisted, left as Sergeant (which I believe is lower than Major?)

Leon E. Panetta
Barack Obama Administration: ZERO military experience, unless you count two years as a young Army intel officer

Robert M. Gates
George W. Bush / Barack Obama Administration: left Air Force as 2nd Lieutenant (lower than Major, correct?)

William S. Cohen
William Clinton Administration: ZERO military experience

Leslie Aspin
William Clinton Administration: ZERO military experience

The point isn't to diminish the wealth of *other* experience all of these men had, but simply to point out that having military experience is NOT a criterion for the job.

https://history.defense.gov/Multimedia/Biographies/Article-View/Article/571296/ashton-b-carter/

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Anonymous wrote:The Secretary of Defense is supposed to be a civilian job. They aren't supposed to be career servicemen.

That’s not true. They just have to be retired for at least 7 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Wtf

Princeton ROTC. Served active in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Gitmo. Bronze star. A political and media creature since then, but still serves in the Guard. At least he can relate to being in the military.

Oh well...if he can relate to being in the military then sign him up. It is the Secretary of defense so being able to relate to being in the military would be such a great quality.

The current one was previously a four star general

The one who decided to have surgery without telling anyone - not even his second in command? That one?
DP

Wasn’t he in the hospital having a terrible medical crisis and didn’t inform the president? Nobody knew?

That’s the fantastic executive skills dcum progressives are so enthralled with; he’s a 4 star, in charge of everything, service members around the world are under his command, and that’s what happened. Unbelievable.

Let an e4 miss formation and see what happens, but Lloyd Austin is hospitalized and tells no one.

So he's such a bad pick you guys have already resorted to "waddabout"...

Anonymous wrote:With two divorces under his belt, he seems like a good fit for the incoming admin.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-will-nominate-fox-news-host-pete-hegseth-defense-secretary-2024-11-13/

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Anonymous wrote:I get he wants to own the libs but can we not play around with national security? There isn’t a single republican general around to take this job?

Generals are perfumed princes. They are basically politicians. That’s it .

I appreciate you’re still waiting for your talking points (i.e, why MAGA has been so quiet in this thread)…but this isn’t going to be on them.

DP. You've had several people with good points speaking up about this. You just ignore, as always. Oh, and not everyone is "MAGA." Give it a rest.

Nobody has been made any points that I agree with and sign off on in defense of this pick.

Anonymous wrote:The Secretary of Defense is supposed to be a civilian job. They aren't supposed to be career servicemen.

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Anonymous wrote:Wtf

Princeton ROTC. Served active in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Gitmo. Bronze star. A political and media creature since then, but still serves in the Guard. At least he can relate to being in the military.

Oh well...if he can relate to being in the military then sign him up. It is the Secretary of defense so being able to relate to being in the military would be such a great quality.

The current one was previously a four star general

The one who decided to have surgery without telling anyone - not even his second in command? That one?
DP

That one should have handed in his resignation a while ago.

If you're saying this guy is better than that guy, I'm not reassured.