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Anonymous wrote:73% is a pretty strong repudiation of the DC Council.

To be fair, I wonder if all voters actually fully understood what Prop 83 meant. Some people might have just seen as “oh look more choices to vote” and just checked the box for shts a giggles and out of confusion.

I did it knowing that it could result in more moderate candidates.

But did anyone else pay attention to the campaign from a lot of pandering liberals and left leaning folks who said “oh no! We can’t have ranked choice! It’s too confusing for poor voters in Ward 7 and 8!”

Like it was this ironic and extremely rude mindset that poor people didn’t understand it or, really, that they should be protected from their own choices. Just so much soft bigotry of low expectations. Like it’s pretty fked up that some know it all progressive would try and shoot down ranked choice under that banner. Basically, they knew that it could lead to more choices and potentially, gasp, less candidates like Nadeau. Pretty underhanded and patronizing.

You started your statement saying people didn’t understand what they were voting for and then admonish liberals for assuming people wouldn’t understand ranked choice voting. You sound just like them.

Sure. You’re right. I’m a hypocrite. Doesn’t change the face that liberals were touting the harms of ranked choice voting by the soft bigotry of low expectations and “they don’t know any better”. It’s fked up. It’s partly why Trump won. People are fed up with progressive left wing nanny state bs.

This is painfully ignorant.

It wasn’t “liberals” opposing RCV. It was the DC Democratic Party.

Many “liberals” and “progressives” - like Christina Henderson - supported the initiative.

It wasn’t the republicans, now was it?

I more alarmed the reasoning that democrats needed to “protect the voters from themselves” as if they were too stupid to know who they were voting for. It’s very paternalism. And yes progressives were part of the movement against it as well. You are wrong.

DC Council has been patronizing the citizens and the Mayor in the worst ways imaginable. First they repealed their own term limits so they can stay in power for forever. Then they threatened to not fund the Prop 83 voted in with 73% because the voters are too feeble minded apparently. Grow up it’s over.

The mayor was ardently opposed to Prop 83. You must not have heard.

The political class, particularly those who won with a plurality rather than majority of votes, oppose it. This isn't hard.

Yes. I hate the ejection result, but it’s 4 years and doesn’t affect my very day life. I hate these types way more because they don’t have term limits, openly take bribes, and do this out of pure self-interest, and have negatively affected every aspect of my life. I’ve lived in DC for 25 years and it’s only the last 5 that I even know or care who’s on DC Council and that’s only for negative reasons: eroded life in the City, idiotic and criminal behavior, always on the wrong side of every issue for personal populist gain

Just because you’re left-wing doesn’t mean you can’t be a populist, a fascist, a demagogue, a tyrant. In fact many were. DC rose up

Out of curiosity, why do you pin all the blame on the Council. Yes, they have passed a number of dumb laws, but they have no authority over MPD or the US Attorney’s Office which prosecutes violent crime. The real problems would appear to be with the mayor - who appoints the MPD chief and a bunch of other important positions, such as the DCPS head - and the US Attorney.

“Why do you put all the blame on the Council” LMFAO.

So many reasons. Chief amongst which in no particular order: they take bribes openly, once they do they are still on the ballot, they repealed their own term limits to enact a lifetime employment opportunity, and have threatened to not fund a proposition aimed at a greater and more democratic turnover of seats so as not to lose said lifetime employment opportunity

That they are also patronizing and underachieving is just the icing

I absolutely agree with you. The blame the mayor not the Council people are clowns. The Council is feckless and corrupt. It’s low hanging fruit to blame them. Particularly since they actively inhibit the mayor from effective administration of the city. I’m not going to defend the Mayor, but at least the mayor has some need to be responsible. The Council act like preening children.

If the mayor has some need to be responsible, then she is responsible for what has happened in this city over the past ten years. Has anything changed for the better in that time? Can you name one thing? None of the agencies under her purview are any better. Not DCPS, not MPD, not OUC, not DPW, and so on as on. It’s a total shitshow.

They mayor is past her prime, and I can think of a few potential candidates who would actually be effective. But that requires home rule and not a overtaker control commission.

Anonymous wrote:NG is not enough. I would employ 300 troops from army in NE, SE and SW. Apaches, state of the art machine guns, and a couple tanks. And do urban combat for a month for the first culling, maybe that yields the lives of 400-500 vicious criminals. Then slowly turn over the NG. If you have car jacked or looted and are headed out, expect the US army to execute you. Also fine with use of drones to blow up congregations of 3 or more negroes.

Uh, are you ok?

Hey if they federalize dc does that get rid of state income tax?

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Anonymous wrote:This is a real funny thread. Like the Republican clown show will have the bandwidth and time to do anything with DC.
There are at least two dozens big radical disruptive things the Republicans want to do. Each one individually would take the time and energy of a competent administration and Congress a full two years(if they are lucky) implement.
In 2 years new congress, anger voters who did not get what they wanted, lobbyist wanting more, trumps broken promises and lame duckness sets in.

If the republicans were smart they would exempt DC from federal income tax, cap DC tax at its current rate and move out of the way.

The Republicans could point to a thriving rich DC as an example of what happens when you removing taxes from the backs of Americans. Property values would skyrocket!


No one gives a sh#t about fake crime stats in DC. Go run on DC crime stats in Texas lol.

Someone that obviously has never heard the phrase “control board”. Enjoy.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a real funny thread. Like the Republican clown show will have the bandwidth and time to do anything with DC.
There are at least two dozens big radical disruptive things the Republicans want to do. Each one individually would take the time and energy of a competent administration and Congress a full two years(if they are lucky) implement.
In 2 years new congress, anger voters who did not get what they wanted, lobbyist wanting more, trumps broken promises and lame duckness sets in.

If the republicans were smart they would exempt DC from federal income tax, cap DC tax at its current rate and move out of the way.

The Republicans could point to a thriving rich DC as an example of what happens when you removing taxes from the backs of Americans. Property values would skyrocket!


No one gives a sh#t about fake crime stats in DC. Go run on DC crime stats in Texas lol.

Someone that obviously has never heard the phrase “control board”. Enjoy.

This is a real funny thread. Like the Republican clown show will have the bandwidth and time to do anything with DC.
There are at least two dozens big radical disruptive things the Republicans want to do. Each one individually would take the time and energy of a competent administration and Congress a full two years(if they are lucky) implement.
In 2 years new congress, anger voters who did not get what they wanted, lobbyist wanting more, trumps broken promises and lame duckness sets in.

If the republicans were smart they would exempt DC from federal income tax, cap DC tax at its current rate and move out of the way.

The Republicans could point to a thriving rich DC as an example of what happens when you removing taxes from the backs of Americans. Property values would skyrocket!


No one gives a sh#t about fake crime stats in DC. Go run on DC crime stats in Texas lol.

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Anonymous wrote:And that’s why Home Rule should be abolished.

Home Rule has nothing to do with the feds dragging their feet on DC crime prosecution. The problem is literally the feds and you want them to have MORE control?

This is all about Republicans trying to get rid of DC's electoral college votes. Mark my words: that is the agenda.

Presumably you believe in statehood and home rule, but here you are trying to claim that the Feds are responsible for DC crime. If that’s what you want, I am sure that the Trump administration and Republican Congress will be happy to deliver.

The government of the District of Columbia does not prosecute adult crime. The USAO has done a horrible job of prosecuting violent felons. The federal courts - also not controlled by the District of Columbia government - have done a terrible job of keeping criminals locked up.

These issues date back to the first Trump administration and continued through the current Biden administration. The Mayor and the Council would love if the USAO and courts did their jobs in a timely manner.

Mass resignation of AUSAs happens with every administration and I am sure that Trump will be more than happy to appoint someone who is tough on crime.

However, a lot of what the USAO can do is hampered by the courts. DC Superior court judges have made evidentiary ruling that make it very difficult to prosecute gun crimes. While DC Superior Court judges are Federal employees, their recommendation for appointment is done by a commission that is controlled by the Mayor and Council.

But the AUSA and judges can only use the tools that the Council have given them and the YRA has basically made it impossible to hold criminals accountable.

Further, policies and laws imposed on police make them disinclined to conduct vigorous policing because you’ll never end up in jail as an MPD officer for doing nothing.

What you also miss in this analysis is that a huge portion of DC crime is committed by juveniles and the DC AG believes that “boys should be boys” and refuses to vigorously prosecute juvenile crimes nor hold juveniles accountable. Even worse, he won’t even release data.

But by all means, keep screaming that it’s the Federal governments fault. Because if you want the Federal government to really take responsibility I don’t believe that you will like what they’ll do.

I'm not a supporter of Trump, but it's enlightening to see how most of the tough on crime measures passed this election, even in deep blue areas like California.

It shows the fatigue all cities are experiencing with petty crime, which is spilling out into the suburbs. Repealing cash bail, setting minimums for retail theft all contributed in some way, but it's going to take dedicated, continuous enforcement of laws to deter petty crime. The so-called progressive approach to crime has done so much more harm than good and the results of this last election show how tired people are of this approach and the fallout we've been seeing from it.

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Anonymous wrote:And that’s why Home Rule should be abolished.

Home Rule has nothing to do with the feds dragging their feet on DC crime prosecution. The problem is literally the feds and you want them to have MORE control?

This is all about Republicans trying to get rid of DC's electoral college votes. Mark my words: that is the agenda.

Presumably you believe in statehood and home rule, but here you are trying to claim that the Feds are responsible for DC crime. If that’s what you want, I am sure that the Trump administration and Republican Congress will be happy to deliver.

The government of the District of Columbia does not prosecute adult crime. The USAO has done a horrible job of prosecuting violent felons. The federal courts - also not controlled by the District of Columbia government - have done a terrible job of keeping criminals locked up.

These issues date back to the first Trump administration and continued through the current Biden administration. The Mayor and the Council would love if the USAO and courts did their jobs in a timely manner.

If there is one federal bureaucracy that has earned its right to be stripped down and built back up, it’s USAO. All signs indicate that the problem goes much deeper than the person at the top.

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Anonymous wrote:And that’s why Home Rule should be abolished.

Home Rule has nothing to do with the feds dragging their feet on DC crime prosecution. The problem is literally the feds and you want them to have MORE control?

This is all about Republicans trying to get rid of DC's electoral college votes. Mark my words: that is the agenda.

Presumably you believe in statehood and home rule, but here you are trying to claim that the Feds are responsible for DC crime. If that’s what you want, I am sure that the Trump administration and Republican Congress will be happy to deliver.

The government of the District of Columbia does not prosecute adult crime. The USAO has done a horrible job of prosecuting violent felons. The federal courts - also not controlled by the District of Columbia government - have done a terrible job of keeping criminals locked up.

These issues date back to the first Trump administration and continued through the current Biden administration. The Mayor and the Council would love if the USAO and courts did their jobs in a timely manner.

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Anonymous wrote:And that’s why Home Rule should be abolished.

Home Rule has nothing to do with the feds dragging their feet on DC crime prosecution. The problem is literally the feds and you want them to have MORE control?

This is all about Republicans trying to get rid of DC's electoral college votes. Mark my words: that is the agenda.

Presumably you believe in statehood and home rule, but here you are trying to claim that the Feds are responsible for DC crime. If that’s what you want, I am sure that the Trump administration and Republican Congress will be happy to deliver.

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Anonymous wrote:And that’s why Home Rule should be abolished.

Home Rule has nothing to do with the feds dragging their feet on DC crime prosecution. The problem is literally the feds and you want them to have MORE control?

This is all about Republicans trying to get rid of DC's electoral college votes. Mark my words: that is the agenda.

There is a 0.0 chance of the 23rd Amendment getting repealed.

They don't have to appeal the 23rd Amendment. They just need to change the law that stipulates how the District of Columbia chooses its Electoral College electors.

The text of the 23rd Amendment:

Section 1
The District constituting the seat of Government of the United States shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct:

A number of electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least populous State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the States, but they shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall meet in the District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of amendment.

Section 2
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

They just need to amend the legislation referred to in Section 2.

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Anonymous wrote:And that’s why Home Rule should be abolished.

Home Rule has nothing to do with the feds dragging their feet on DC crime prosecution. The problem is literally the feds and you want them to have MORE control?

This is all about Republicans trying to get rid of DC's electoral college votes. Mark my words: that is the agenda.

Interesting theory, but I think it’s all just an R talking point. The people who believe Congress will take over DC trash collection don’t understand what actually happens under a control board.

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Anonymous wrote:And that’s why Home Rule should be abolished.

Home Rule has nothing to do with the feds dragging their feet on DC crime prosecution. The problem is literally the feds and you want them to have MORE control?

This is all about Republicans trying to get rid of DC's electoral college votes. Mark my words: that is the agenda.

There is a 0.0 chance of the 23rd Amendment getting repealed.

Anonymous wrote:And that’s why Home Rule should be abolished.

Home Rule has nothing to do with the feds dragging their feet on DC crime prosecution. The problem is literally the feds and you want them to have MORE control?

This is all about Republicans trying to get rid of DC's electoral college votes. Mark my words: that is the agenda.