Anonymous
10/31/2024 15:01
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:This topic is turning into whether or not D1 college coaches care or not about high school soccer. They care about individuals and if the opportunity presents itself they will scout who they feel is a top player in whatever format is available at their convenience.
Can we mostly agree that it appears the ridiculous rec argument has been soundly disproven due to the fact that a team like Whitman has only top club players participating.
I think people don’t realize what rec level is lol. That’s for a guy named Jimmy who used to play MSI when he was younger and who wants to try out for his local high school team. That’s rec level
You appear to be the only one that doesn't realize what rec level is.
How many people need to tell you that you're wrong before you listen to them?
Anonymous
10/31/2024 14:57
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
This topic is turning into whether or not D1 college coaches care or not about high school soccer. They care about individuals and if the opportunity presents itself they will scout who they feel is a top player in whatever format is available at their convenience.
Can we mostly agree that it appears the ridiculous rec argument has been soundly disproven due to the fact that a team like Whitman has only top club players participating.
I think people don’t realize what rec level is lol. That’s for a guy named Jimmy who used to play MSI when he was younger and who wants to try out for his local high school team. That’s rec level
Can we mostly agree that it appears the ridiculous rec argument has been soundly disproven due to the fact that a team like Whitman has only top club players participating.
I think people don’t realize what rec level is lol. That’s for a guy named Jimmy who used to play MSI when he was younger and who wants to try out for his local high school team. That’s rec level
Anonymous
10/31/2024 14:47
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Colleges do not care about high school soccer. But again that's not the point of playing soccer for your high school.
They care if they know there are mls next or ecnl players. Having a higschool team ranked nationally also is gonna bring interest.
Gonzaga is number 1 in the area right? For sure D1 scouts are there.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 14:44
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a ridiculous post - high school soccer is incredibly hard for kids to make.
At our private it is just about anyone who wants to try out. Not hard.
Oh, well, when people talk about schools, they usually are referencing the giant public high schools most students attend. Not tiny privates with walk-on participation medal teams.
At large public HS, 100+ boys try out for soccer.
Exactly
People saying it’s like rec must be referring to private schools or at worse a smaller public school where they only care about football
Anonymous
10/31/2024 13:46
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Colleges do not care about high school soccer. But again that's not the point of playing soccer for your high school.
What is the point then, in all seriousness? It doesn’t seem to add anything.
We know college coaches don’t care about it and we also know college ADMISSIONS don’t care about it (unrecruited athletes are a dime a dozen -there are a million better ECs).
So why do kids play HS soccer?
I played 4 years varsity, then D3 soccer and it meant the world to me, but today it seems so professionalized or alternatively complete crap.
Sure I played 5 years on varsity and D1. That was forever ago. Even then playing highschool had zero to do with getting recruited. But by any of that logic what is the point of playing at all. Not all kids who play travel soccer will play in college. Playing is supposed to be fun. For every person who gives up high school soccer and gets that experience in college good for you. There is the alternative though. You give up being on your highschool team for the hope of playing in college. Then you get injured, don't make the team, you make the team and sit on the bench. There are so many possibilities and what ifs.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 13:18
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Colleges do not care about high school soccer. But again that's not the point of playing soccer for your high school.
What is the point then, in all seriousness? It doesn’t seem to add anything.
We know college coaches don’t care about it and we also know college ADMISSIONS don’t care about it (unrecruited athletes are a dime a dozen -there are a million better ECs).
So why do kids play HS soccer?
I played 4 years varsity, then D3 soccer and it meant the world to me, but today it seems so professionalized or alternatively complete crap.
There is just no upside if you are already a player that is being recruited for college where you want to go. Yes play for your school but at what cost. Not worth injury that derails college commit.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 13:17
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Colleges do not care about high school soccer. But again that's not the point of playing soccer for your high school.
I think this is a good post on this topic. What is your goal? If ECNL an it is to play in college you have a real question whether to play or not. I would say it is 50-50. Is it worth the risk of injury to play for HS. Some will say no and not play because there goal is college not to play for their HS. Others will say yes because I want to play for HS and that is important. At our private there are enough ECNL/GA girls to to be top 11 on team. None play. Team is ECNL-R and other travel. Why? At least 6 girls went out with injuries overt the last few years. None came back to play HS and the rest have no interest.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 13:16
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Colleges do not care about high school soccer. But again that's not the point of playing soccer for your high school.
What is the point then, in all seriousness? It doesn’t seem to add anything.
We know college coaches don’t care about it and we also know college ADMISSIONS don’t care about it (unrecruited athletes are a dime a dozen -there are a million better ECs).
So why do kids play HS soccer?
I played 4 years varsity, then D3 soccer and it meant the world to me, but today it seems so professionalized or alternatively complete crap.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 13:08
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Colleges do not care about high school soccer. But again that's not the point of playing soccer for your high school.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 12:40
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But what about Glenelg?
Genuine question...is anyone actually scouted through high school soccer? Are there even talented players only doing high school soccer and not club as well?
Teh most talented kids do not play HS - they dont want to get hurt by some field hockey kid from another team trying outside back for the first time.
This is absolutely not true. I would bet 90+% of ECNL boys play and 75% of MLS Next kids. Some DC United players risk repercussions and play against their coaches instructions. They all LOVE playing HS.
Calling BS on this
I don’t know if they LOVE it. But being Varsity Captain, MVP, all Met, all state, maybe even Gatorade player of the year etc is very impressive to college coaches. High school is the only path to those accolades.
Add a state championship to this list and you have not just a D1 player, but P4.
Nope. I call BS. I know a few players with Gatorade POY to their names and state champs etc. If you didn't get seen in club - you will not be P4. Not if HS is your only experience.
Correct. You need both.
You only need club soccer.
HS BS doesn't matter.
But the recruiting forms ask for the HS Coach.
My kid left it blank. He’s playing D1. They are recruiting at showcases - nobody cares about some form that thousands of kids fill out anyway. It’s there because some kids will only have HS. It doesn’t mean they care.
And let me further take your blinders off:
They are now primarily recruiting from actual MLS academies, Intetnational players and now seasoned older college players in the transfer portal.
If you have a boy and you are so clueless to think HS matters at all—-get that kid to start studying and doing SAT prep. Max out your 529. lol
I get it about boys. I think they have to go play D3 or JuCo and enter the transfer portal to have a hope.
But I think college coaches on the girls side care about winning state championships, Gatorade player of the year etc.
not D1 ! Girls D1 coaches NEVER come to HS in this area (NOVA) and they do not care if you played. NONE of the girls in our club played HS and all were recruited over HS kids.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 12:27
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But what about Glenelg?
Genuine question...is anyone actually scouted through high school soccer? Are there even talented players only doing high school soccer and not club as well?
Teh most talented kids do not play HS - they dont want to get hurt by some field hockey kid from another team trying outside back for the first time.
This is absolutely not true. I would bet 90+% of ECNL boys play and 75% of MLS Next kids. Some DC United players risk repercussions and play against their coaches instructions. They all LOVE playing HS.
Calling BS on this
I don’t know if they LOVE it. But being Varsity Captain, MVP, all Met, all state, maybe even Gatorade player of the year etc is very impressive to college coaches. High school is the only path to those accolades.
Add a state championship to this list and you have not just a D1 player, but P4.
Nope. I call BS. I know a few players with Gatorade POY to their names and state champs etc. If you didn't get seen in club - you will not be P4. Not if HS is your only experience.
Correct. You need both.
You only need club soccer.
HS BS doesn't matter.
But the recruiting forms ask for the HS Coach.
My kid left it blank. He’s playing D1. They are recruiting at showcases - nobody cares about some form that thousands of kids fill out anyway. It’s there because some kids will only have HS. It doesn’t mean they care.
And let me further take your blinders off:
They are now primarily recruiting from actual MLS academies, Intetnational players and now seasoned older college players in the transfer portal.
If you have a boy and you are so clueless to think HS matters at all—-get that kid to start studying and doing SAT prep. Max out your 529. lol
I get it about boys. I think they have to go play D3 or JuCo and enter the transfer portal to have a hope.
But I think college coaches on the girls side care about winning state championships, Gatorade player of the year etc.
No, even on the girls side top college coaches don't care about HS soccer.
Get a clue.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 12:25
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
I'm glad people are talking some sense into private school mom.
It's going to take her 6-7 years with all the hold backs before she figures it out on her own.
It's going to take her 6-7 years with all the hold backs before she figures it out on her own.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 12:17
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But what about Glenelg?
Genuine question...is anyone actually scouted through high school soccer? Are there even talented players only doing high school soccer and not club as well?
Teh most talented kids do not play HS - they dont want to get hurt by some field hockey kid from another team trying outside back for the first time.
This is absolutely not true. I would bet 90+% of ECNL boys play and 75% of MLS Next kids. Some DC United players risk repercussions and play against their coaches instructions. They all LOVE playing HS.
Calling BS on this
I don’t know if they LOVE it. But being Varsity Captain, MVP, all Met, all state, maybe even Gatorade player of the year etc is very impressive to college coaches. High school is the only path to those accolades.
Add a state championship to this list and you have not just a D1 player, but P4.
Nope. I call BS. I know a few players with Gatorade POY to their names and state champs etc. If you didn't get seen in club - you will not be P4. Not if HS is your only experience.
Correct. You need both.
You only need club soccer.
HS BS doesn't matter.
But the recruiting forms ask for the HS Coach.
My kid left it blank. He’s playing D1. They are recruiting at showcases - nobody cares about some form that thousands of kids fill out anyway. It’s there because some kids will only have HS. It doesn’t mean they care.
And let me further take your blinders off:
They are now primarily recruiting from actual MLS academies, Intetnational players and now seasoned older college players in the transfer portal.
If you have a boy and you are so clueless to think HS matters at all—-get that kid to start studying and doing SAT prep. Max out your 529. lol
I’ll even add one more
—-with roster sizes limited to 28 next year (and many colleges with 33-35 on a roster). They are cutting players and taking even fewer males yeah out of HS.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 12:16
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But what about Glenelg?
Genuine question...is anyone actually scouted through high school soccer? Are there even talented players only doing high school soccer and not club as well?
Teh most talented kids do not play HS - they dont want to get hurt by some field hockey kid from another team trying outside back for the first time.
This is absolutely not true. I would bet 90+% of ECNL boys play and 75% of MLS Next kids. Some DC United players risk repercussions and play against their coaches instructions. They all LOVE playing HS.
Calling BS on this
I don’t know if they LOVE it. But being Varsity Captain, MVP, all Met, all state, maybe even Gatorade player of the year etc is very impressive to college coaches. High school is the only path to those accolades.
Add a state championship to this list and you have not just a D1 player, but P4.
Nope. I call BS. I know a few players with Gatorade POY to their names and state champs etc. If you didn't get seen in club - you will not be P4. Not if HS is your only experience.
Correct. You need both.
You only need club soccer.
HS BS doesn't matter.
But the recruiting forms ask for the HS Coach.
My kid left it blank. He’s playing D1. They are recruiting at showcases - nobody cares about some form that thousands of kids fill out anyway. It’s there because some kids will only have HS. It doesn’t mean they care.
And let me further take your blinders off:
They are now primarily recruiting from actual MLS academies, Intetnational players and now seasoned older college players in the transfer portal.
If you have a boy and you are so clueless to think HS matters at all—-get that kid to start studying and doing SAT prep. Max out your 529. lol
I get it about boys. I think they have to go play D3 or JuCo and enter the transfer portal to have a hope.
But I think college coaches on the girls side care about winning state championships, Gatorade player of the year etc.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 12:14
Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But what about Glenelg?
Genuine question...is anyone actually scouted through high school soccer? Are there even talented players only doing high school soccer and not club as well?
Teh most talented kids do not play HS - they dont want to get hurt by some field hockey kid from another team trying outside back for the first time.
This is absolutely not true. I would bet 90+% of ECNL boys play and 75% of MLS Next kids. Some DC United players risk repercussions and play against their coaches instructions. They all LOVE playing HS.
Calling BS on this
I don’t know if they LOVE it. But being Varsity Captain, MVP, all Met, all state, maybe even Gatorade player of the year etc is very impressive to college coaches. High school is the only path to those accolades.
Add a state championship to this list and you have not just a D1 player, but P4.
Nope. I call BS. I know a few players with Gatorade POY to their names and state champs etc. If you didn't get seen in club - you will not be P4. Not if HS is your only experience.
Correct. You need both.
You only need club soccer.
HS BS doesn't matter.
But the recruiting forms ask for the HS Coach.
My kid left it blank. He’s playing D1. They are recruiting at showcases - nobody cares about some form that thousands of kids fill out anyway. It’s there because some kids will only have HS. It doesn’t mean they care.
And let me further take your blinders off:
They are now primarily recruiting from actual MLS academies, Intetnational players and now seasoned older college players in the transfer portal.
If you have a boy and you are so clueless to think HS matters at all—-get that kid to start studying and doing SAT prep. Max out your 529. lol