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Anonymous wrote:Make seperate schools for illegal immigrants.

Make separate schools for kids who do not speak English,

Integrate them in the mainstream schools when they catch up.

Are there even enough teachers to teach ELL students?

Nope. We have immigrants coming here illegally from all over the world. It's not just Spanish speakers. It's impossible to hire enough teachers to fill the need. Also, hiring even more ELL teachers means less money for other staff. We don't have an unlimited budget. So, we throw the kids into regular classes and expect teachers to pick up the slack.

The casual racism and anti-immigrant hate is just something else on DCUM. People don't even respond to it anymore.

Do any of you people reading this understand that what the PP wrote is:

A. Greatly exaggerated. No, there aren't hordes of non-English speaking students in MCPS, and

B. Hateful? This is public school. You educate the resident kids, regardless of who they are or where they come from. That is the public education compact, and it's a GOOD thing for our long-term future, for which we need educated and socially-integrated immigrants.

If you don't like it, feel free to move or to educate your kids elsewhere. You have choices.

I'm a parent volunteer in my kids' public schools. I've seen the recent immigrants learning English. They're grateful, quick to learn and they've got tons of grit. They don't take away resources from other kids, since the state gives extra money specifically to bring these kids up to speed. These are not snowflake kids. They will grow up to contribute to the economy of the United States and prop up your Social Security benefits.

Don't let your hate shoot you in the foot.

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Anonymous wrote:Make seperate schools for illegal immigrants.

Make separate schools for kids who do not speak English,

Integrate them in the mainstream schools when they catch up.

Are there even enough teachers to teach ELL students?

Nope. We have immigrants coming here illegally from all over the world. It's not just Spanish speakers. It's impossible to hire enough teachers to fill the need. Also, hiring even more ELL teachers means less money for other staff. We don't have an unlimited budget. So, we throw the kids into regular classes and expect teachers to pick up the slack.

Anonymous wrote:Follow what Angela Merkel did when German children did poorly on PISA.

Realize it’s more dramatic to bring up the lower than make gains for the middle.

It’s always about math scores.

Engage core universities in the effort: need more research into math disabilities- it helps everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious answers only. How can schools raise performances of students at the lowest levels? Free meals help nourish brains and bodies, are they "healthy" is questionable. What else? It it sending home books (lots of books) for them to read? More math practice practice practice. Is it helping change their attitude towards learning, less screen time? Is it identifying learning disorders in Pre-K (if eligible) or by K? Parents/guardians of these students need assistance too but there is time and language and cultural barriers- getting them information about identifying learning issues, ELL services, attitude/views about learning?

Attract more Asian families. Get parents, alumni and star students to volunteer for tutoring.

Asian families are attracted to districts and programs that set their children up for success. In MCPS their biggest presence is in the Wootton district and magnet programs.

If you want more Asian families, you need to prioritize education. There's a decent chance they are going to split up the Wootton district to make other metrics look better on paper, and if that happens, you're going to drive many of those families out.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious answers only. How can schools raise performances of students at the lowest levels? Free meals help nourish brains and bodies, are they "healthy" is questionable. What else? It it sending home books (lots of books) for them to read? More math practice practice practice. Is it helping change their attitude towards learning, less screen time? Is it identifying learning disorders in Pre-K (if eligible) or by K? Parents/guardians of these students need assistance too but there is time and language and cultural barriers- getting them information about identifying learning issues, ELL services, attitude/views about learning?

Attract more Asian families. Get parents, alumni and star students to volunteer for tutoring.

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Anonymous wrote:For meals, I’d like to see protein for breakfast - like some sort of egg dish. The kids eat pure sugar for breakfast and are starving two hours later, when a kindly teacher might give them a carb snack.

I’d limit the screen time in lower elementary and encourage parents to do the same. More time just reading a book to the class where they sit there and develop their listening and concentration skills.

I’d continually reinforce basic math facts - simple single digit addition, substitution, multiplication way longer than you’d think necessary.

Yes - identifying issues earlier, especially for kids whose parents can’t.

Encourage kids to do their multiplication flashcards at home and test them daily on it at the correct grade level.

Additional recess or outdoor time. Both a morning and afternoon recess or daily PE. Some hard exercise in the morning might really help the kids and lower the amount of time spent on classroom management.

THANK YOU!
Such great points!!

Those are great points, but so many of those require Home support and that’s exactly what so many of these kids lack. some of these kids don’t have good parental oversight or involvement. Who is going to push them to do flashcards at home? some of these kids don’t have good parental oversight or involvement. Who is going to push them to do flashcards at home

Most of those actually do not require home support, with intention. Though home support is, of course, helpful. Maybe you’re thinking at home meals? The kids I work with often have breakfast provided at school so I’m referring to school-provided breakfast.

Yes - flash cards (and any homework) are definitely tricky without home support but do work for some kids. It would require a lot of teacher administration but you’d want to incentivize the kids to learn their math facts by ditching some of the flash cards when learned, changing their in class work and tests, etc. Most kids do want to improve. For kids whose parents don’t understand English, math flashcards are a little easier to tell your kid to do than helping with other assignments. But yeah, a lot of kids won’t get assistance at home. You could also add those things into small group or push in/out. Games could be integrated to make it more fun. For the continual reinforcement of math facts, that was intended as a daily in-class exercise.

If kids get what they need in class supported with good materials and textbooks most baring special needs can do homework just fine. People like you dumbing down things and making excuses are the problem.

Please re-read this exchange. But also, there are no textbooks in elementary school. There are math workbooks that stay at school. I don’t think you’re at MCPS?

There are some textbooks in middle and high school for history for math and history depending on the teacher. Some teachers refuse to use them. You can find the elementary workbooks online for free, or you can get copies from some schools or buy them. Or, get your own to supplement. You have options. Yes we are mcps. Our math teacher bought materials off the internet this year. They refuse to use the supplied textbook. We bought the materials to help our child.

The context of multiplication flash cards was elementary school. My own children are older and have been able to borrow the text books from their middle and high schools in a lot of subjects - we’ve never needed to purchase them. You can also borrow the graphing calculator if desired.
I was refuting the argument someone made that my ideas were too difficult for students/families without home support. You then accused me of dumbing things down.

Not sure where you are at but some of our teachers don't have enough books so if you can afford it you are asked to buy it. Others only get classroom sets. We've only had textbooks in math and history. Our English right now has a copy of a few poems, not even the entire book, so we had to buy it if we wanted it. We also had to buy our own graphing calculator for home, they only have classroom sets.

Some of us who support at home spend a lot of time and money doing so and not everyone has the resources but some of the stuff you can get for free with effort but some of your suggestions are to dumb things down.

If they don’t have the book in the classroom available for home use, it can be requested from CO or the appropriate copies made. Personal graphing calculator for home use is one thing. But don’t let MCPS off the hook for providing the appropriate books for class. Either they provide the book, access to the book/content online or print it.

Online books don't work for all kids. And, no they don't provide books in all classes and you have to ask.

No one said they did. It was simply stated they the book or content is available in some form.

For some classes it is, for others its not. That's the point. For many of the advanced science and math classes, books are not available and it makes learning very difficult, especially for things like caculus.

Request the book or access to the online book or that all content be printed out (notes, vocab, explanation, problem solutions, etc). I realize that one shouldn’t have to do this, however it is the way to solve the problem.

And who is getting teachers/staff copy paper?????

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Anonymous wrote:For meals, I’d like to see protein for breakfast - like some sort of egg dish. The kids eat pure sugar for breakfast and are starving two hours later, when a kindly teacher might give them a carb snack.

I’d limit the screen time in lower elementary and encourage parents to do the same. More time just reading a book to the class where they sit there and develop their listening and concentration skills.

I’d continually reinforce basic math facts - simple single digit addition, substitution, multiplication way longer than you’d think necessary.

Yes - identifying issues earlier, especially for kids whose parents can’t.

Encourage kids to do their multiplication flashcards at home and test them daily on it at the correct grade level.

Additional recess or outdoor time. Both a morning and afternoon recess or daily PE. Some hard exercise in the morning might really help the kids and lower the amount of time spent on classroom management.

THANK YOU!
Such great points!!

Those are great points, but so many of those require Home support and that’s exactly what so many of these kids lack. some of these kids don’t have good parental oversight or involvement. Who is going to push them to do flashcards at home? some of these kids don’t have good parental oversight or involvement. Who is going to push them to do flashcards at home

Most of those actually do not require home support, with intention. Though home support is, of course, helpful. Maybe you’re thinking at home meals? The kids I work with often have breakfast provided at school so I’m referring to school-provided breakfast.

Yes - flash cards (and any homework) are definitely tricky without home support but do work for some kids. It would require a lot of teacher administration but you’d want to incentivize the kids to learn their math facts by ditching some of the flash cards when learned, changing their in class work and tests, etc. Most kids do want to improve. For kids whose parents don’t understand English, math flashcards are a little easier to tell your kid to do than helping with other assignments. But yeah, a lot of kids won’t get assistance at home. You could also add those things into small group or push in/out. Games could be integrated to make it more fun. For the continual reinforcement of math facts, that was intended as a daily in-class exercise.

If kids get what they need in class supported with good materials and textbooks most baring special needs can do homework just fine. People like you dumbing down things and making excuses are the problem.

Please re-read this exchange. But also, there are no textbooks in elementary school. There are math workbooks that stay at school. I don’t think you’re at MCPS?

There are some textbooks in middle and high school for history for math and history depending on the teacher. Some teachers refuse to use them. You can find the elementary workbooks online for free, or you can get copies from some schools or buy them. Or, get your own to supplement. You have options. Yes we are mcps. Our math teacher bought materials off the internet this year. They refuse to use the supplied textbook. We bought the materials to help our child.

The context of multiplication flash cards was elementary school. My own children are older and have been able to borrow the text books from their middle and high schools in a lot of subjects - we’ve never needed to purchase them. You can also borrow the graphing calculator if desired.
I was refuting the argument someone made that my ideas were too difficult for students/families without home support. You then accused me of dumbing things down.

Not sure where you are at but some of our teachers don't have enough books so if you can afford it you are asked to buy it. Others only get classroom sets. We've only had textbooks in math and history. Our English right now has a copy of a few poems, not even the entire book, so we had to buy it if we wanted it. We also had to buy our own graphing calculator for home, they only have classroom sets.

Some of us who support at home spend a lot of time and money doing so and not everyone has the resources but some of the stuff you can get for free with effort but some of your suggestions are to dumb things down.

If they don’t have the book in the classroom available for home use, it can be requested from CO or the appropriate copies made. Personal graphing calculator for home use is one thing. But don’t let MCPS off the hook for providing the appropriate books for class. Either they provide the book, access to the book/content online or print it.

Online books don't work for all kids. And, no they don't provide books in all classes and you have to ask.

No one said they did. It was simply stated they the book or content is available in some form.

For some classes it is, for others its not. That's the point. For many of the advanced science and math classes, books are not available and it makes learning very difficult, especially for things like caculus.

Request the book or access to the online book or that all content be printed out (notes, vocab, explanation, problem solutions, etc). I realize that one shouldn’t have to do this, however it is the way to solve the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:For meals, I’d like to see protein for breakfast - like some sort of egg dish. The kids eat pure sugar for breakfast and are starving two hours later, when a kindly teacher might give them a carb snack.

I’d limit the screen time in lower elementary and encourage parents to do the same. More time just reading a book to the class where they sit there and develop their listening and concentration skills.

I’d continually reinforce basic math facts - simple single digit addition, substitution, multiplication way longer than you’d think necessary.

Yes - identifying issues earlier, especially for kids whose parents can’t.

Encourage kids to do their multiplication flashcards at home and test them daily on it at the correct grade level.

Additional recess or outdoor time. Both a morning and afternoon recess or daily PE. Some hard exercise in the morning might really help the kids and lower the amount of time spent on classroom management.

THANK YOU!
Such great points!!

Those are great points, but so many of those require Home support and that’s exactly what so many of these kids lack. some of these kids don’t have good parental oversight or involvement. Who is going to push them to do flashcards at home? some of these kids don’t have good parental oversight or involvement. Who is going to push them to do flashcards at home

Most of those actually do not require home support, with intention. Though home support is, of course, helpful. Maybe you’re thinking at home meals? The kids I work with often have breakfast provided at school so I’m referring to school-provided breakfast.

Yes - flash cards (and any homework) are definitely tricky without home support but do work for some kids. It would require a lot of teacher administration but you’d want to incentivize the kids to learn their math facts by ditching some of the flash cards when learned, changing their in class work and tests, etc. Most kids do want to improve. For kids whose parents don’t understand English, math flashcards are a little easier to tell your kid to do than helping with other assignments. But yeah, a lot of kids won’t get assistance at home. You could also add those things into small group or push in/out. Games could be integrated to make it more fun. For the continual reinforcement of math facts, that was intended as a daily in-class exercise.

If kids get what they need in class supported with good materials and textbooks most baring special needs can do homework just fine. People like you dumbing down things and making excuses are the problem.

Please re-read this exchange. But also, there are no textbooks in elementary school. There are math workbooks that stay at school. I don’t think you’re at MCPS?

There are some textbooks in middle and high school for history for math and history depending on the teacher. Some teachers refuse to use them. You can find the elementary workbooks online for free, or you can get copies from some schools or buy them. Or, get your own to supplement. You have options. Yes we are mcps. Our math teacher bought materials off the internet this year. They refuse to use the supplied textbook. We bought the materials to help our child.

The context of multiplication flash cards was elementary school. My own children are older and have been able to borrow the text books from their middle and high schools in a lot of subjects - we’ve never needed to purchase them. You can also borrow the graphing calculator if desired.
I was refuting the argument someone made that my ideas were too difficult for students/families without home support. You then accused me of dumbing things down.

Not sure where you are at but some of our teachers don't have enough books so if you can afford it you are asked to buy it. Others only get classroom sets. We've only had textbooks in math and history. Our English right now has a copy of a few poems, not even the entire book, so we had to buy it if we wanted it. We also had to buy our own graphing calculator for home, they only have classroom sets.

Some of us who support at home spend a lot of time and money doing so and not everyone has the resources but some of the stuff you can get for free with effort but some of your suggestions are to dumb things down.

If they don’t have the book in the classroom available for home use, it can be requested from CO or the appropriate copies made. Personal graphing calculator for home use is one thing. But don’t let MCPS off the hook for providing the appropriate books for class. Either they provide the book, access to the book/content online or print it.

Online books don't work for all kids. And, no they don't provide books in all classes and you have to ask.

No one said they did. It was simply stated they the book or content is available in some form.

For some classes it is, for others its not. That's the point. For many of the advanced science and math classes, books are not available and it makes learning very difficult, especially for things like caculus.

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Anonymous wrote:For meals, I’d like to see protein for breakfast - like some sort of egg dish. The kids eat pure sugar for breakfast and are starving two hours later, when a kindly teacher might give them a carb snack.

I’d limit the screen time in lower elementary and encourage parents to do the same. More time just reading a book to the class where they sit there and develop their listening and concentration skills.

I’d continually reinforce basic math facts - simple single digit addition, substitution, multiplication way longer than you’d think necessary.

Yes - identifying issues earlier, especially for kids whose parents can’t.

Encourage kids to do their multiplication flashcards at home and test them daily on it at the correct grade level.

Additional recess or outdoor time. Both a morning and afternoon recess or daily PE. Some hard exercise in the morning might really help the kids and lower the amount of time spent on classroom management.

THANK YOU!
Such great points!!

Those are great points, but so many of those require Home support and that’s exactly what so many of these kids lack. some of these kids don’t have good parental oversight or involvement. Who is going to push them to do flashcards at home? some of these kids don’t have good parental oversight or involvement. Who is going to push them to do flashcards at home

Most of those actually do not require home support, with intention. Though home support is, of course, helpful. Maybe you’re thinking at home meals? The kids I work with often have breakfast provided at school so I’m referring to school-provided breakfast.

Yes - flash cards (and any homework) are definitely tricky without home support but do work for some kids. It would require a lot of teacher administration but you’d want to incentivize the kids to learn their math facts by ditching some of the flash cards when learned, changing their in class work and tests, etc. Most kids do want to improve. For kids whose parents don’t understand English, math flashcards are a little easier to tell your kid to do than helping with other assignments. But yeah, a lot of kids won’t get assistance at home. You could also add those things into small group or push in/out. Games could be integrated to make it more fun. For the continual reinforcement of math facts, that was intended as a daily in-class exercise.

If kids get what they need in class supported with good materials and textbooks most baring special needs can do homework just fine. People like you dumbing down things and making excuses are the problem.

Please re-read this exchange. But also, there are no textbooks in elementary school. There are math workbooks that stay at school. I don’t think you’re at MCPS?

There are some textbooks in middle and high school for history for math and history depending on the teacher. Some teachers refuse to use them. You can find the elementary workbooks online for free, or you can get copies from some schools or buy them. Or, get your own to supplement. You have options. Yes we are mcps. Our math teacher bought materials off the internet this year. They refuse to use the supplied textbook. We bought the materials to help our child.

The context of multiplication flash cards was elementary school. My own children are older and have been able to borrow the text books from their middle and high schools in a lot of subjects - we’ve never needed to purchase them. You can also borrow the graphing calculator if desired.
I was refuting the argument someone made that my ideas were too difficult for students/families without home support. You then accused me of dumbing things down.

Not sure where you are at but some of our teachers don't have enough books so if you can afford it you are asked to buy it. Others only get classroom sets. We've only had textbooks in math and history. Our English right now has a copy of a few poems, not even the entire book, so we had to buy it if we wanted it. We also had to buy our own graphing calculator for home, they only have classroom sets.

Some of us who support at home spend a lot of time and money doing so and not everyone has the resources but some of the stuff you can get for free with effort but some of your suggestions are to dumb things down.

If they don’t have the book in the classroom available for home use, it can be requested from CO or the appropriate copies made. Personal graphing calculator for home use is one thing. But don’t let MCPS off the hook for providing the appropriate books for class. Either they provide the book, access to the book/content online or print it.

Online books don't work for all kids. And, no they don't provide books in all classes and you have to ask.

No one said they did. It was simply stated they the book or content is available in some form.

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Anonymous wrote:For meals, I’d like to see protein for breakfast - like some sort of egg dish. The kids eat pure sugar for breakfast and are starving two hours later, when a kindly teacher might give them a carb snack.

I’d limit the screen time in lower elementary and encourage parents to do the same. More time just reading a book to the class where they sit there and develop their listening and concentration skills.

I’d continually reinforce basic math facts - simple single digit addition, substitution, multiplication way longer than you’d think necessary.

Yes - identifying issues earlier, especially for kids whose parents can’t.

Encourage kids to do their multiplication flashcards at home and test them daily on it at the correct grade level.

Additional recess or outdoor time. Both a morning and afternoon recess or daily PE. Some hard exercise in the morning might really help the kids and lower the amount of time spent on classroom management.

THANK YOU!
Such great points!!

Those are great points, but so many of those require Home support and that’s exactly what so many of these kids lack. some of these kids don’t have good parental oversight or involvement. Who is going to push them to do flashcards at home? some of these kids don’t have good parental oversight or involvement. Who is going to push them to do flashcards at home

Most of those actually do not require home support, with intention. Though home support is, of course, helpful. Maybe you’re thinking at home meals? The kids I work with often have breakfast provided at school so I’m referring to school-provided breakfast.

Yes - flash cards (and any homework) are definitely tricky without home support but do work for some kids. It would require a lot of teacher administration but you’d want to incentivize the kids to learn their math facts by ditching some of the flash cards when learned, changing their in class work and tests, etc. Most kids do want to improve. For kids whose parents don’t understand English, math flashcards are a little easier to tell your kid to do than helping with other assignments. But yeah, a lot of kids won’t get assistance at home. You could also add those things into small group or push in/out. Games could be integrated to make it more fun. For the continual reinforcement of math facts, that was intended as a daily in-class exercise.

If kids get what they need in class supported with good materials and textbooks most baring special needs can do homework just fine. People like you dumbing down things and making excuses are the problem.

Please re-read this exchange. But also, there are no textbooks in elementary school. There are math workbooks that stay at school. I don’t think you’re at MCPS?

There are some textbooks in middle and high school for history for math and history depending on the teacher. Some teachers refuse to use them. You can find the elementary workbooks online for free, or you can get copies from some schools or buy them. Or, get your own to supplement. You have options. Yes we are mcps. Our math teacher bought materials off the internet this year. They refuse to use the supplied textbook. We bought the materials to help our child.

The context of multiplication flash cards was elementary school. My own children are older and have been able to borrow the text books from their middle and high schools in a lot of subjects - we’ve never needed to purchase them. You can also borrow the graphing calculator if desired.
I was refuting the argument someone made that my ideas were too difficult for students/families without home support. You then accused me of dumbing things down.

Not sure where you are at but some of our teachers don't have enough books so if you can afford it you are asked to buy it. Others only get classroom sets. We've only had textbooks in math and history. Our English right now has a copy of a few poems, not even the entire book, so we had to buy it if we wanted it. We also had to buy our own graphing calculator for home, they only have classroom sets.

Some of us who support at home spend a lot of time and money doing so and not everyone has the resources but some of the stuff you can get for free with effort but some of your suggestions are to dumb things down.

If they don’t have the book in the classroom available for home use, it can be requested from CO or the appropriate copies made. Personal graphing calculator for home use is one thing. But don’t let MCPS off the hook for providing the appropriate books for class. Either they provide the book, access to the book/content online or print it.

Online books don't work for all kids. And, no they don't provide books in all classes and you have to ask.

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Anonymous wrote:Make seperate schools for illegal immigrants.

Make separate schools for kids who do not speak English,

Integrate them in the mainstream schools when they catch up.

Are there even enough teachers to teach ELL students?

Nope. We have immigrants coming here illegally from all over the world. It's not just Spanish speakers. It's impossible to hire enough teachers to fill the need. Also, hiring even more ELL teachers means less money for other staff. We don't have an unlimited budget. So, we throw the kids into regular classes and expect teachers to pick up the slack.

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Anonymous wrote:Make seperate schools for illegal immigrants.

Make separate schools for kids who do not speak English,

Integrate them in the mainstream schools when they catch up.

Are there even enough teachers to teach ELL students?

Anonymous wrote:Make seperate schools for illegal immigrants.

Make separate schools for kids who do not speak English,

Integrate them in the mainstream schools when they catch up.