Anonymous
Post 10/07/2024 17:06     Subject: Re:If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As usual, the globalists at DCUM completely ignored HR2

H.R. 2 includes a laundry list of essential immigration reforms long fought for by immigration experts;

* Plugging loopholes in the asylum system that are currently being exploited by economic migrants by raising the bar for “credible fear” claims and denying entry to aliens claiming asylum at the border who have passed through a safe third country on their way to the United States and failed to apply in that safe country;
* Blocking the administration from continuing its catch-and-release policy by making most illegal aliens ineligible for parole or release from custody other than to be returned to their home country or to a contiguous country to await the adjudication of their asylum claim there (Remain in Mexico);.
* Preventing family units who cross the border illegally from being released into the United States by requiring family units apprehended at the border to be detained, protecting them from exploitation and victimization by the cartels and traffickers;
* Reining in the breathtaking and illegal abuse of parole that this administration has been using to create its own immigration system outside of the confines of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
* Installing teeth into efforts to deter visa overstays.

Perhaps most importantly, the bill would require employers to check the legal status of new hires through the free, easy-to-use E-Verify system. By making it much harder for illegal aliens to find jobs, the reform would deter would-be migrants from ever journeying to the United States.

and yet Democrats have shown they are not serious about controlling immigration, and it seems that increasing immigration is a policy choice by Democrats.

Nobody ignored H.R. 2. We know it's there. We also know it's a messaging bill whose authors understood completely that it was dead on arrival in the Senate.

House Democrats passed the For The People Act in 2019 but McConnell didn't bring it up for a vote. They tried again in 2021 and while Schumer did bring it up, it didn't survive the filibuster. The fact that the bill failed to become law came as a surprise to no one - this was a messaging bill too. Both sides pass them to let the people know where they stand. And if enough voters agree with H.R. 2 they'll elect 60 Republican senators and a Republican president. But we're not there yet.


And the Senate’s weak border bill was also a messaging bill that was not intended to pass. It was all of Biden and Democrats policies. It did not secure the border, but it was intended to fool voters into thinking Democrats were doing something to secure the border. It was to deflect blame for the border crisis onto Trump and Republicans. Its authors knew it would never pass the House.

Its principal author was conservative Republican Sen. James Lankford. Why would he want to do that?


No, the principal author was the Biden admin, Chris Murphy, and Kirsten Sinema, all Democrats. James Lankford got anything for Republicans in the bill. The bill was so bad it had no chance of passing the House. He spoke on the Senate floor about all the good policies Democrats rejected

https://youtu.be/0Lpq_SbvCgo?si=clDENHJWsb2NW5rw
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2024 16:28     Subject: Re:If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As usual, the globalists at DCUM completely ignored HR2

H.R. 2 includes a laundry list of essential immigration reforms long fought for by immigration experts;

* Plugging loopholes in the asylum system that are currently being exploited by economic migrants by raising the bar for “credible fear” claims and denying entry to aliens claiming asylum at the border who have passed through a safe third country on their way to the United States and failed to apply in that safe country;
* Blocking the administration from continuing its catch-and-release policy by making most illegal aliens ineligible for parole or release from custody other than to be returned to their home country or to a contiguous country to await the adjudication of their asylum claim there (Remain in Mexico);.
* Preventing family units who cross the border illegally from being released into the United States by requiring family units apprehended at the border to be detained, protecting them from exploitation and victimization by the cartels and traffickers;
* Reining in the breathtaking and illegal abuse of parole that this administration has been using to create its own immigration system outside of the confines of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
* Installing teeth into efforts to deter visa overstays.

Perhaps most importantly, the bill would require employers to check the legal status of new hires through the free, easy-to-use E-Verify system. By making it much harder for illegal aliens to find jobs, the reform would deter would-be migrants from ever journeying to the United States.

and yet Democrats have shown they are not serious about controlling immigration, and it seems that increasing immigration is a policy choice by Democrats.

Nobody ignored H.R. 2. We know it's there. We also know it's a messaging bill whose authors understood completely that it was dead on arrival in the Senate.

House Democrats passed the For The People Act in 2019 but McConnell didn't bring it up for a vote. They tried again in 2021 and while Schumer did bring it up, it didn't survive the filibuster. The fact that the bill failed to become law came as a surprise to no one - this was a messaging bill too. Both sides pass them to let the people know where they stand. And if enough voters agree with H.R. 2 they'll elect 60 Republican senators and a Republican president. But we're not there yet.


And the Senate’s weak border bill was also a messaging bill that was not intended to pass. It was all of Biden and Democrats policies. It did not secure the border, but it was intended to fool voters into thinking Democrats were doing something to secure the border. It was to deflect blame for the border crisis onto Trump and Republicans. Its authors knew it would never pass the House.

Its principal author was conservative Republican Sen. James Lankford. Why would he want to do that?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2024 12:57     Subject: If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

If liberals don't enforce our borders fascists will.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2024 08:39     Subject: Re:If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As usual, the globalists at DCUM completely ignored HR2

H.R. 2 includes a laundry list of essential immigration reforms long fought for by immigration experts;

* Plugging loopholes in the asylum system that are currently being exploited by economic migrants by raising the bar for “credible fear” claims and denying entry to aliens claiming asylum at the border who have passed through a safe third country on their way to the United States and failed to apply in that safe country;
* Blocking the administration from continuing its catch-and-release policy by making most illegal aliens ineligible for parole or release from custody other than to be returned to their home country or to a contiguous country to await the adjudication of their asylum claim there (Remain in Mexico);.
* Preventing family units who cross the border illegally from being released into the United States by requiring family units apprehended at the border to be detained, protecting them from exploitation and victimization by the cartels and traffickers;
* Reining in the breathtaking and illegal abuse of parole that this administration has been using to create its own immigration system outside of the confines of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
* Installing teeth into efforts to deter visa overstays.

Perhaps most importantly, the bill would require employers to check the legal status of new hires through the free, easy-to-use E-Verify system. By making it much harder for illegal aliens to find jobs, the reform would deter would-be migrants from ever journeying to the United States.

and yet Democrats have shown they are not serious about controlling immigration, and it seems that increasing immigration is a policy choice by Democrats.

Nobody ignored H.R. 2. We know it's there. We also know it's a messaging bill whose authors understood completely that it was dead on arrival in the Senate.

House Democrats passed the For The People Act in 2019 but McConnell didn't bring it up for a vote. They tried again in 2021 and while Schumer did bring it up, it didn't survive the filibuster. The fact that the bill failed to become law came as a surprise to no one - this was a messaging bill too. Both sides pass them to let the people know where they stand. And if enough voters agree with H.R. 2 they'll elect 60 Republican senators and a Republican president. But we're not there yet.


And the Senate’s weak border bill was also a messaging bill that was not intended to pass. It was all of Biden and Democrats policies. It did not secure the border, but it was intended to fool voters into thinking Democrats were doing something to secure the border. It was to deflect blame for the border crisis onto Trump and Republicans. Its authors knew it would never pass the House.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2024 07:54     Subject: Re:If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Looks like Sweden is also discovering the many benefits from overwhelming immigration.

they are RACIST!

Stockholm has made no secret of overhauling its immigration policy, saying it wants to combat fraud and what it calls a “shadow society” of migrants that don’t have a legal right to stay in the country.

By doing so, it hopes to solve what it describes as the “associated problems” of a rise in undocumented migrants, with a spate of gang violence and organized crime plaguing low-income, immigrant communities in Sweden in recent years.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/07/swedens-immigration-stance-has-changed-radically-over-the-last-decade.html

Anonymous
Post 10/07/2024 07:17     Subject: Re:If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Anonymous wrote:As usual, the globalists at DCUM completely ignored HR2

H.R. 2 includes a laundry list of essential immigration reforms long fought for by immigration experts;

* Plugging loopholes in the asylum system that are currently being exploited by economic migrants by raising the bar for “credible fear” claims and denying entry to aliens claiming asylum at the border who have passed through a safe third country on their way to the United States and failed to apply in that safe country;
* Blocking the administration from continuing its catch-and-release policy by making most illegal aliens ineligible for parole or release from custody other than to be returned to their home country or to a contiguous country to await the adjudication of their asylum claim there (Remain in Mexico);.
* Preventing family units who cross the border illegally from being released into the United States by requiring family units apprehended at the border to be detained, protecting them from exploitation and victimization by the cartels and traffickers;
* Reining in the breathtaking and illegal abuse of parole that this administration has been using to create its own immigration system outside of the confines of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
* Installing teeth into efforts to deter visa overstays.

Perhaps most importantly, the bill would require employers to check the legal status of new hires through the free, easy-to-use E-Verify system. By making it much harder for illegal aliens to find jobs, the reform would deter would-be migrants from ever journeying to the United States.

and yet Democrats have shown they are not serious about controlling immigration, and it seems that increasing immigration is a policy choice by Democrats.

Nobody ignored H.R. 2. We know it's there. We also know it's a messaging bill whose authors understood completely that it was dead on arrival in the Senate.

House Democrats passed the For The People Act in 2019 but McConnell didn't bring it up for a vote. They tried again in 2021 and while Schumer did bring it up, it didn't survive the filibuster. The fact that the bill failed to become law came as a surprise to no one - this was a messaging bill too. Both sides pass them to let the people know where they stand. And if enough voters agree with H.R. 2 they'll elect 60 Republican senators and a Republican president. But we're not there yet.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2024 07:01     Subject: If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Anonymous wrote:In 2016 immigration/borders was the mainstay of his platform. He promised to build a wall and that Mexico was going to pay for it. We all know that didn't happen. Again, in 2024, this is the mainstay of his platform. What do you think he is going to do differently this time?


For Fiscal Year (FY) 2024, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security will provide $640.9 million of available funds to enable non-federal entities to off-set allowable costs incurred for services associated with noncitizen migrant arrivals in their communities.

https://www.fema.gov/grants/preparedness/shelter-services-program/fy24-awards/ssp-a#:~:text=For%20Fiscal%20Year%20(FY)%202024,migrant%20arrivals%20in%20their%20communities.

No US taxpayer should ever vote democrat.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2024 06:51     Subject: Re:If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

As usual, the globalists at DCUM completely ignored HR2

H.R. 2 includes a laundry list of essential immigration reforms long fought for by immigration experts;

* Plugging loopholes in the asylum system that are currently being exploited by economic migrants by raising the bar for “credible fear” claims and denying entry to aliens claiming asylum at the border who have passed through a safe third country on their way to the United States and failed to apply in that safe country;
* Blocking the administration from continuing its catch-and-release policy by making most illegal aliens ineligible for parole or release from custody other than to be returned to their home country or to a contiguous country to await the adjudication of their asylum claim there (Remain in Mexico);.
* Preventing family units who cross the border illegally from being released into the United States by requiring family units apprehended at the border to be detained, protecting them from exploitation and victimization by the cartels and traffickers;
* Reining in the breathtaking and illegal abuse of parole that this administration has been using to create its own immigration system outside of the confines of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
* Installing teeth into efforts to deter visa overstays.

Perhaps most importantly, the bill would require employers to check the legal status of new hires through the free, easy-to-use E-Verify system. By making it much harder for illegal aliens to find jobs, the reform would deter would-be migrants from ever journeying to the United States.

and yet Democrats have shown they are not serious about controlling immigration, and it seems that increasing immigration is a policy choice by Democrats.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2024 23:18     Subject: If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In 2016 immigration/borders was the mainstay of his platform. He promised to build a wall and that Mexico was going to pay for it. We all know that didn't happen. Again, in 2024, this is the mainstay of his platform. What do you think he is going to do differently this time?


Democrats shut down the government rather than protect our country with border barriers.

He did a good job last time with safe third country agreements, Migrant Protection Protocol and expulsion orders. All he needs to do is reinstate those policies and cancel Biden’s CBP One app and disastrous CHNV parole program and we will be in a lot better shape as a country.

The last shutdown began in 2018 with Trump in the White House and Republicans controlling both the House and the Senate. Trump himself took credit for the shutdown: "I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down." That is not Democrats shutting down the government.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2024 21:38     Subject: If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In 2016 immigration/borders was the mainstay of his platform. He promised to build a wall and that Mexico was going to pay for it. We all know that didn't happen. Again, in 2024, this is the mainstay of his platform. What do you think he is going to do differently this time?


Democrats shut down the government rather than protect our country with border barriers.

He did a good job last time with safe third country agreements, Migrant Protection Protocol and expulsion orders. All he needs to do is reinstate those policies and cancel Biden’s CBP One app and disastrous CHNV parole program and we will be in a lot better shape as a country.


+1000
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2024 21:38     Subject: If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone complained about Trump's actions on immigration as President, and went to courts to block him with all these nationwide injunctions. They celebrated as Biden reversed his policies. Now they claim Trump didn't do anything.


“Everyone”? You mean liberals. I thought he was doing a good job on the border, despite Democrats trying to block him from securing the border. Trump had secured international agreements with four different countries to take back migrants from the border and Biden ended those agreements in his first week in office.


Agreed - and that's what the PP meant.
DP
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2024 21:37     Subject: If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Anonymous wrote:Everyone complained about Trump's actions on immigration as President, and went to courts to block him with all these nationwide injunctions. They celebrated as Biden reversed his policies. Now they claim Trump didn't do anything.


Exactly. It would be comical if it wasn't so pathetic.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2024 21:20     Subject: If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Anonymous wrote:In 2016 immigration/borders was the mainstay of his platform. He promised to build a wall and that Mexico was going to pay for it. We all know that didn't happen. Again, in 2024, this is the mainstay of his platform. What do you think he is going to do differently this time?


Democrats shut down the government rather than protect our country with border barriers.

He did a good job last time with safe third country agreements, Migrant Protection Protocol and expulsion orders. All he needs to do is reinstate those policies and cancel Biden’s CBP One app and disastrous CHNV parole program and we will be in a lot better shape as a country.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2024 21:16     Subject: If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Anonymous wrote:Everyone complained about Trump's actions on immigration as President, and went to courts to block him with all these nationwide injunctions. They celebrated as Biden reversed his policies. Now they claim Trump didn't do anything.


“Everyone”? You mean liberals. I thought he was doing a good job on the border, despite Democrats trying to block him from securing the border. Trump had secured international agreements with four different countries to take back migrants from the border and Biden ended those agreements in his first week in office.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2024 20:25     Subject: If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

Everyone complained about Trump's actions on immigration as President, and went to courts to block him with all these nationwide injunctions. They celebrated as Biden reversed his policies. Now they claim Trump didn't do anything.