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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the retakes - so now they already know the questions and go back and answer it and get everything right?

No, I have to write 4 versions of every test (different MC questions, different essay questions, different application problems, etc)

Version A/B for in class because kids are packed so tightly there is no way to prevent wandering eyeballs.

Version C as a retake/“I was absent on test day” version for anyone who does the retake within 2 weeks.

Version D for students who missed test day, took the retake as their first attempt, and now need a retake, or who decide in June they want to retake unit 1 (we have to let them). Version D is never handed back so I can use it for retakes the remainder of the year.

It is extraordinarily difficult in some units to write four exams of equal difficulty that aren’t just asking the same thing with different numbers.

Why are you making the retakes “equal difficulty”?

Save yourself the trouble and get a reputation for only giving retakes that are impossible. And announce that anyone who does a retake needs to accept that grade even if it’s lower. After a few hard lessons, no student will dare approach you for a retake. Then you do not need to ever create retakes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the retakes - so now they already know the questions and go back and answer it and get everything right?

No, I have to write 4 versions of every test (different MC questions, different essay questions, different application problems, etc)

Version A/B for in class because kids are packed so tightly there is no way to prevent wandering eyeballs.

Version C as a retake/“I was absent on test day” version for anyone who does the retake within 2 weeks.

Version D for students who missed test day, took the retake as their first attempt, and now need a retake, or who decide in June they want to retake unit 1 (we have to let them). Version D is never handed back so I can use it for retakes the remainder of the year.

It is extraordinarily difficult in some units to write four exams of equal difficulty that aren’t just asking the same thing with different numbers.

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the retakes - so now they already know the questions and go back and answer it and get everything right?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid just got his first test back and did well, but said most kids are retaking anything under 97 so that they can be sure they are in good shape in case the final ends up being hard.

This seems like it is going to push the highly perfectionist crowd to insanity.

I hope the kids that really need the retakes are doing it too.

Interesting that the teachers even allow for retakes if the students get over a certain grade. None of my kid's teachers allow retakes if the original grade is a B or above unless it is a test near the end of the semester where scoring higher would bump their overall semester grade up a letter.

Several of her teachers also require anyone who scores below a C minus to automatically do the retake. A few others require the retake only if the first grade is a D+ or lower.

The current FCPS policy is to allow retakes for any test grade. If your kids are in FCPS, retakes are allowed this year.

This will drive more teachers to quit. A total waste of their time to re-grade exams in the 90s.

No one is retaking tests in the 90s after the first unit. Once work picks up and grades start to level out, kids realize real fast it's not worth their time.

I've been doing retakes to 100 for years (like, 12+) and i always have a ton of high achieving kids want to retake the first test and then it's crickets.

For my AP and Honors classes, about 70% of the student who got a 79% or below did a retake. I prepared two tests as a matter of course.

For my GE classes, retakes were rarely done.

Here’s how I am handling this new policy. The first test will be the regular difficulty. The second test will be incredibly difficult. It will be longer and impossible to finish even for kids with extended time.

I made time to help the kids who wanted to do retakes last year since it was reasonable and they generally seemed very motivated.

No longer. Any makeup tests will not help this year.

That's just f'd up and mean. There are a lot of kids who work really hard and who need more time to learn the concepts fully. But since high school classes are on such a rigid timeline (with tests paced out to the day and if you don't know it by then, you're SOL), those kids who could use an extra day or two interacting and learning the material will get screwed every single time with your petty vindictive policy which you put in place just to screw over the kids who are already scoring high who want to retake.

You're punishing the kids who genuinely need the opportunity. It's gross.

+1 it’s against the spirit of what the retakes are supposed to be for. The goal is to get the kids to learn the material, not screw then the second time around.

Or is the goal simply to inflate grades and ensure high graduation rates?

Shhh. This is supposed to be a secret

I think it will backfire. Classes are already falling behind as teachers need to give class time for retakes.

Is this only happening at Langley? Our school has a 90 minute advisory and I would be livid if teachers are not using this time for retakes.

The school board needs to clarify in the policy that a retake will not harm any student who takes it if the retake is lower than the original test grade.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid just got his first test back and did well, but said most kids are retaking anything under 97 so that they can be sure they are in good shape in case the final ends up being hard.

This seems like it is going to push the highly perfectionist crowd to insanity.

I hope the kids that really need the retakes are doing it too.

Interesting that the teachers even allow for retakes if the students get over a certain grade. None of my kid's teachers allow retakes if the original grade is a B or above unless it is a test near the end of the semester where scoring higher would bump their overall semester grade up a letter.

Several of her teachers also require anyone who scores below a C minus to automatically do the retake. A few others require the retake only if the first grade is a D+ or lower.

My kids' school also has a 90 minute advisory, but they can only flex in/out for the first 45 minutes of most class periods, and then head to a scheduled class for the second 45 minutes.

The current FCPS policy is to allow retakes for any test grade. If your kids are in FCPS, retakes are allowed this year.

This will drive more teachers to quit. A total waste of their time to re-grade exams in the 90s.

No one is retaking tests in the 90s after the first unit. Once work picks up and grades start to level out, kids realize real fast it's not worth their time.

I've been doing retakes to 100 for years (like, 12+) and i always have a ton of high achieving kids want to retake the first test and then it's crickets.

For my AP and Honors classes, about 70% of the student who got a 79% or below did a retake. I prepared two tests as a matter of course.

For my GE classes, retakes were rarely done.

Here’s how I am handling this new policy. The first test will be the regular difficulty. The second test will be incredibly difficult. It will be longer and impossible to finish even for kids with extended time.

I made time to help the kids who wanted to do retakes last year since it was reasonable and they generally seemed very motivated.

No longer. Any makeup tests will not help this year.

That's just f'd up and mean. There are a lot of kids who work really hard and who need more time to learn the concepts fully. But since high school classes are on such a rigid timeline (with tests paced out to the day and if you don't know it by then, you're SOL), those kids who could use an extra day or two interacting and learning the material will get screwed every single time with your petty vindictive policy which you put in place just to screw over the kids who are already scoring high who want to retake.

You're punishing the kids who genuinely need the opportunity. It's gross.

+1 it’s against the spirit of what the retakes are supposed to be for. The goal is to get the kids to learn the material, not screw then the second time around.

Or is the goal simply to inflate grades and ensure high graduation rates?

Shhh. This is supposed to be a secret

I think it will backfire. Classes are already falling behind as teachers need to give class time for retakes.

Is this only happening at Langley? Our school has a 90 minute advisory and I would be livid if teachers are not using this time for retakes.

The school board needs to clarify in the policy that a retake will not harm any student who takes it if the retake is lower than the original test grade.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid just got his first test back and did well, but said most kids are retaking anything under 97 so that they can be sure they are in good shape in case the final ends up being hard.

This seems like it is going to push the highly perfectionist crowd to insanity.

I hope the kids that really need the retakes are doing it too.

Interesting that the teachers even allow for retakes if the students get over a certain grade. None of my kid's teachers allow retakes if the original grade is a B or above unless it is a test near the end of the semester where scoring higher would bump their overall semester grade up a letter.

Several of her teachers also require anyone who scores below a C minus to automatically do the retake. A few others require the retake only if the first grade is a D+ or lower.

The current FCPS policy is to allow retakes for any test grade. If your kids are in FCPS, retakes are allowed this year.

This will drive more teachers to quit. A total waste of their time to re-grade exams in the 90s.

No one is retaking tests in the 90s after the first unit. Once work picks up and grades start to level out, kids realize real fast it's not worth their time.

I've been doing retakes to 100 for years (like, 12+) and i always have a ton of high achieving kids want to retake the first test and then it's crickets.

For my AP and Honors classes, about 70% of the student who got a 79% or below did a retake. I prepared two tests as a matter of course.

For my GE classes, retakes were rarely done.

Here’s how I am handling this new policy. The first test will be the regular difficulty. The second test will be incredibly difficult. It will be longer and impossible to finish even for kids with extended time.

I made time to help the kids who wanted to do retakes last year since it was reasonable and they generally seemed very motivated.

No longer. Any makeup tests will not help this year.

That's just f'd up and mean. There are a lot of kids who work really hard and who need more time to learn the concepts fully. But since high school classes are on such a rigid timeline (with tests paced out to the day and if you don't know it by then, you're SOL), those kids who could use an extra day or two interacting and learning the material will get screwed every single time with your petty vindictive policy which you put in place just to screw over the kids who are already scoring high who want to retake.

You're punishing the kids who genuinely need the opportunity. It's gross.

+1 it’s against the spirit of what the retakes are supposed to be for. The goal is to get the kids to learn the material, not screw then the second time around.

Or is the goal simply to inflate grades and ensure high graduation rates?

Shhh. This is supposed to be a secret

I think it will backfire. Classes are already falling behind as teachers need to give class time for retakes.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid just got his first test back and did well, but said most kids are retaking anything under 97 so that they can be sure they are in good shape in case the final ends up being hard.

This seems like it is going to push the highly perfectionist crowd to insanity.

I hope the kids that really need the retakes are doing it too.

Interesting that the teachers even allow for retakes if the students get over a certain grade. None of my kid's teachers allow retakes if the original grade is a B or above unless it is a test near the end of the semester where scoring higher would bump their overall semester grade up a letter.

Several of her teachers also require anyone who scores below a C minus to automatically do the retake. A few others require the retake only if the first grade is a D+ or lower.

The current FCPS policy is to allow retakes for any test grade. If your kids are in FCPS, retakes are allowed this year.

This will drive more teachers to quit. A total waste of their time to re-grade exams in the 90s.

No one is retaking tests in the 90s after the first unit. Once work picks up and grades start to level out, kids realize real fast it's not worth their time.

I've been doing retakes to 100 for years (like, 12+) and i always have a ton of high achieving kids want to retake the first test and then it's crickets.

For my AP and Honors classes, about 70% of the student who got a 79% or below did a retake. I prepared two tests as a matter of course.

For my GE classes, retakes were rarely done.

Here’s how I am handling this new policy. The first test will be the regular difficulty. The second test will be incredibly difficult. It will be longer and impossible to finish even for kids with extended time.

I made time to help the kids who wanted to do retakes last year since it was reasonable and they generally seemed very motivated.

No longer. Any makeup tests will not help this year.

That's just f'd up and mean. There are a lot of kids who work really hard and who need more time to learn the concepts fully. But since high school classes are on such a rigid timeline (with tests paced out to the day and if you don't know it by then, you're SOL), those kids who could use an extra day or two interacting and learning the material will get screwed every single time with your petty vindictive policy which you put in place just to screw over the kids who are already scoring high who want to retake.

You're punishing the kids who genuinely need the opportunity. It's gross.

+1 it’s against the spirit of what the retakes are supposed to be for. The goal is to get the kids to learn the material, not screw then the second time around.

Or is the goal simply to inflate grades and ensure high graduation rates?

Shhh. This is supposed to be a secret

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Anonymous wrote:My kid just got his first test back and did well, but said most kids are retaking anything under 97 so that they can be sure they are in good shape in case the final ends up being hard.

This seems like it is going to push the highly perfectionist crowd to insanity.

I hope the kids that really need the retakes are doing it too.

Interesting that the teachers even allow for retakes if the students get over a certain grade. None of my kid's teachers allow retakes if the original grade is a B or above unless it is a test near the end of the semester where scoring higher would bump their overall semester grade up a letter.

Several of her teachers also require anyone who scores below a C minus to automatically do the retake. A few others require the retake only if the first grade is a D+ or lower.

The current FCPS policy is to allow retakes for any test grade. If your kids are in FCPS, retakes are allowed this year.

This will drive more teachers to quit. A total waste of their time to re-grade exams in the 90s.

No one is retaking tests in the 90s after the first unit. Once work picks up and grades start to level out, kids realize real fast it's not worth their time.

I've been doing retakes to 100 for years (like, 12+) and i always have a ton of high achieving kids want to retake the first test and then it's crickets.

For my AP and Honors classes, about 70% of the student who got a 79% or below did a retake. I prepared two tests as a matter of course.

For my GE classes, retakes were rarely done.

Here’s how I am handling this new policy. The first test will be the regular difficulty. The second test will be incredibly difficult. It will be longer and impossible to finish even for kids with extended time.

I made time to help the kids who wanted to do retakes last year since it was reasonable and they generally seemed very motivated.

No longer. Any makeup tests will not help this year.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid just got his first test back and did well, but said most kids are retaking anything under 97 so that they can be sure they are in good shape in case the final ends up being hard.

This seems like it is going to push the highly perfectionist crowd to insanity.

I hope the kids that really need the retakes are doing it too.

Interesting that the teachers even allow for retakes if the students get over a certain grade. None of my kid's teachers allow retakes if the original grade is a B or above unless it is a test near the end of the semester where scoring higher would bump their overall semester grade up a letter.

Several of her teachers also require anyone who scores below a C minus to automatically do the retake. A few others require the retake only if the first grade is a D+ or lower.

The current FCPS policy is to allow retakes for any test grade. If your kids are in FCPS, retakes are allowed this year.

This will drive more teachers to quit. A total waste of their time to re-grade exams in the 90s.

No one is retaking tests in the 90s after the first unit. Once work picks up and grades start to level out, kids realize real fast it's not worth their time.

I've been doing retakes to 100 for years (like, 12+) and i always have a ton of high achieving kids want to retake the first test and then it's crickets.

For my AP and Honors classes, about 70% of the student who got a 79% or below did a retake. I prepared two tests as a matter of course.

For my GE classes, retakes were rarely done. I hope the PP give the kids who missed the test because of illness give those kids the original( normal) test, otherwise not at all fair.

Here’s how I am handling this new policy. The first test will be the regular difficulty. The second test will be incredibly difficult. It will be longer and impossible to finish even for kids with extended time.

I made time to help the kids who wanted to do retakes last year since it was reasonable and they generally seemed very motivated.

No longer. Any makeup tests will not help this year.

This really screws over kids who are out sick and miss the first test!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid just got his first test back and did well, but said most kids are retaking anything under 97 so that they can be sure they are in good shape in case the final ends up being hard.

This seems like it is going to push the highly perfectionist crowd to insanity.

I hope the kids that really need the retakes are doing it too.

Interesting that the teachers even allow for retakes if the students get over a certain grade. None of my kid's teachers allow retakes if the original grade is a B or above unless it is a test near the end of the semester where scoring higher would bump their overall semester grade up a letter.

Several of her teachers also require anyone who scores below a C minus to automatically do the retake. A few others require the retake only if the first grade is a D+ or lower.

The current FCPS policy is to allow retakes for any test grade. If your kids are in FCPS, retakes are allowed this year.

This will drive more teachers to quit. A total waste of their time to re-grade exams in the 90s.

No one is retaking tests in the 90s after the first unit. Once work picks up and grades start to level out, kids realize real fast it's not worth their time.

I've been doing retakes to 100 for years (like, 12+) and i always have a ton of high achieving kids want to retake the first test and then it's crickets.

For my AP and Honors classes, about 70% of the student who got a 79% or below did a retake. I prepared two tests as a matter of course.

For my GE classes, retakes were rarely done.

Here’s how I am handling this new policy. The first test will be the regular difficulty. The second test will be incredibly difficult. It will be longer and impossible to finish even for kids with extended time.

I made time to help the kids who wanted to do retakes last year since it was reasonable and they generally seemed very motivated.

No longer. Any makeup tests will not help this year.

That's just f'd up and mean. There are a lot of kids who work really hard and who need more time to learn the concepts fully. But since high school classes are on such a rigid timeline (with tests paced out to the day and if you don't know it by then, you're SOL), those kids who could use an extra day or two interacting and learning the material will get screwed every single time with your petty vindictive policy which you put in place just to screw over the kids who are already scoring high who want to retake.

You're punishing the kids who genuinely need the opportunity. It's gross.

+1 it’s against the spirit of what the retakes are supposed to be for. The goal is to get the kids to learn the material, not screw then the second time around.

Or is the goal simply to inflate grades and ensure high graduation rates?