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Anonymous wrote:The two schools with very obvious yield protection at our private, based on Scattergrams, were Tulane and Northeastern, only the middle third of the class was green territory. This was for 2023 cycle, so basically the first three years post covid.

Northeastern get 100K apps from high stat kids and acceptance rate is mid single digit for Boston campus.
You can call it yield protection or whatever but the school has luxury to pick and choose right students with high stats for the school who want to be there.

+1000

Yield protection does not happen at schools with single digit acceptance rates.

It happens at like a CWRU with a 35-40% acceptance rate and yield issues. For them, if you are really high stats (higher than 80-90%) and you do NOT demonstrate considerable interest, they might not accept you. They smartly figure you are likely getting into one of the 10+ t25 you applied to and going there. So unless you convince them otherwise, they will offer the spot to someone more likely to attend.

And that’s fair and reasonable, they want students who want to attend not ones who will turn them down

Tufts is 10% acceptance rate and yield protection was named for them.

Colleges can can get to a very low acceptance rate by inducing people to apply through marketing and doing things like counting incomplete applications.

it was named after them in the 90s. They didn’t have a 10% accept rate then.

Exactly right. If Tufts ever "yield protected" it was 25+ years ago when then had a 40% admit rate and a 30% yield. Now that they have a 10% admit rate and a 50% yield, there is no chance they are doing "yield protection". They don't need to!

Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid from 23 applied to Pitt and UMN. As soon as those acceptances came in OCTOBER it was only top 50 thereafter. If you can find a rolling admissions school you like, APPLY!

I always wonder if anyone ever actually goes to Pitt or MN. They're always touted as the rolling safeties that reassure people while they apply to "better" schools, but I never hear about anyone actually going there.

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1. VT is not a safety.
2. VT does not yield-protect and says as much right on their website.

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection."

https://www.vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/counselor-corner.html#:~:text=Virginia%20Tech%20does%20not,participate%20in%20yield%20protection.

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I’ve heard that if you have over a 1500 SAT to watch out with VT. That’s really sad because it’s a top choice for my son. He submitted his app early (yesterday) plus we toured in Jan. Hopefully that signals to VT, that he is interested.

Next someone will say that VT doesn't care about DI. VT does care about DI AND yield protects regardless of what a lot VT cheerleaders come on here to say. If the department that your son is interested in has any sessions at all, make sure you attend to show interest even if you have attended a similar event previously. Engage with the department staff.

A lot of schools yield protect even though their stated policy may be "we don't yield protect". What are you going to do? Sue them? Kinda hard to prove your case given the opacity of the process. Don't really blame them though..A school that doesn't yield protect would pretty much admit every student that meets their academic/other threshold/standard for admission and deal with the consequences of low yield and waitlist management. Tech chooses not to do that and that's fine. People just need to be aware of this and plan accordingly.

If VT admitted every student that is in their profile, they would over enroll every year. Having the stats isn’t enough. If your kid had the stats and didn’t get in it’s not because of yield protection, it’s because that’s how selective admissions works. You can accept reality and move on or keep going in circles.

So you do admit they don't admit people that may fit their profile of an admitted student but they choose to not offer admission because that kid likely won't attend? That's the very definition of yield protection. And get over the stupid notion that these kids only have stats but are deficient in other ways. That might have worked in 1970 but no longer. Every high stats kid knows the game and plays it well.

No. That’s not what I said. Having the stats is only the starting point. VT reserves the right to reject a high stats kid that writes a bad essay or has boring activities.

Was waiting for someone to spew this bullsh*t. A 1590 kid, who likely got into school(s) tiers above Tech, suddenly 'writes a bad essay or has boring activities'? Occom's razor. Look it up.

1590 isn't enough. VT has their own essay that can determine admission or rejection. If that essay is written poorly or the kid comes across as a bad fit for VT, the kid is getting rejected.

but don't you realize, it's not the essay? It's that their kid was "yield protected". (Sarcasm off now)

If a kid truly wants to go to tech, they will write an essay that is convincing. I told my kids---each college is your number 1 choice whenever you are writing their essays or communicating with someone at that school. IT's your job to sell yourself to them. Plenty of kids do just that.

But if Tech is truly your kid's safety and they already think with a 1590 they are in, then they might not do well on the essay and any other communication with the school.

This is what the world has come to. People are arguing that a kid with a 1590 should not get a chance to become an engineer unless he can write a compelling essay.

Nobody ever said they cannot become an engineer. There are literally 100s of schools with excellent engineering majors. If anything, engineering is one where you simply want ABET certification. My engineering kid (1500/3.98UW/8AP) had these results

T10 ED deferred, then rejected
T20 WL
T20 Rejected
T30 WL
T40 Accepted
T50 Accepted (excellent merit)
T50 (State flagship) Accepted direct admit to engineering (acceptance rate is 25-30% or lower)
T50-60 Accepted, 1st year overseas (acceptance rates for main campus are 5%)
T60 Accepted (excellent merit)
T100 Accepted back in Oct (nearby state school with good engineering 70% acceptance rate and reciprocity for tuition).

exactly what we expected happened---WL or rejected at T30 schools.
Everything else they got accepted In reality they only got "rejected" at 2 schools, WL at 2 and accepted at all the other.

And chose between the T40, T50 (with excellent merit) and the T60 (which was their top safety and is that good it stayed in contention thru April)

There were at least 10-20 other schools my kid could have applied to for engineering (that don't have any direct admit stuff, so you get in you can be an engineer) in the T120-150.

If that isn't "good enough" for a student, then they need a life readjustment. The world is going to get real fast for them. Imagine their first job, when they realize that 50%+ of the people in the exact same position, starting with the exact same pay attended a "non-elite" school.
Or when they realize the same holds true thru the org structure, including their next 3 levels of bosses

+100 to all of the above, and especially the bolded. That's why the new WSJ rankings are so interesting - the point being that you can achieve the same outcomes as elite school grads even if you don't attend said "elite" school.

VT really lives rent free in a lot of heads here

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Anonymous wrote:This is the problem for high stat kids…

There are only reaches and safeties no matches.

You apply to a safety because you are concerned you won’t get into your reaches and you might not get into your first choice safety due to yield protection.

You may apply to reaches and get rejected from all.

Kind of stinks to work so hard and have this happen.

Get a grip. High stat kids have thousands of colleges to choose from. Please stop and seek help if necessary.

New poster: genuinely high stats kids who have worked hard (versus all As for all) are usually not interested in those “thousands of colleges.”

There are at least 150-200 Top schools for kids like that. Not just 25 schools. But if you and your kid's attitude is "I don't want to attend a school ranked 75 or 120" then no doubt that might just show thru in your "why VA Tech essay" when it's your "safety school"
Plenty of very smart kids at most schools in the Top 150

VT is ranked #47 on USNWR.

So expand the numbers. It's highly rated, and known to be difficult to gain admission in-state for engineering/CS. Your bright student can find plenty of great schools in the 50-150 range if they look. They don't have to end up at VCU or George mason (after UVA and Tech, the next best engineering in the state). They can use them as good safeties, or find plenty of other "better schools" that they can get accepted at.

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Anonymous wrote:virginia tech big time

1. VT is not a safety.
2. VT does not yield-protect and says as much right on their website.

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection."

https://www.vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/counselor-corner.html#:~:text=Virginia%20Tech%20does%20not,participate%20in%20yield%20protection.

OP here.
I’ve heard that if you have over a 1500 SAT to watch out with VT. That’s really sad because it’s a top choice for my son. He submitted his app early (yesterday) plus we toured in Jan. Hopefully that signals to VT, that he is interested.

Next someone will say that VT doesn't care about DI. VT does care about DI AND yield protects regardless of what a lot VT cheerleaders come on here to say. If the department that your son is interested in has any sessions at all, make sure you attend to show interest even if you have attended a similar event previously. Engage with the department staff.

A lot of schools yield protect even though their stated policy may be "we don't yield protect". What are you going to do? Sue them? Kinda hard to prove your case given the opacity of the process. Don't really blame them though..A school that doesn't yield protect would pretty much admit every student that meets their academic/other threshold/standard for admission and deal with the consequences of low yield and waitlist management. Tech chooses not to do that and that's fine. People just need to be aware of this and plan accordingly.

If VT admitted every student that is in their profile, they would over enroll every year. Having the stats isn’t enough. If your kid had the stats and didn’t get in it’s not because of yield protection, it’s because that’s how selective admissions works. You can accept reality and move on or keep going in circles.

So you do admit they don't admit people that may fit their profile of an admitted student but they choose to not offer admission because that kid likely won't attend? That's the very definition of yield protection. And get over the stupid notion that these kids only have stats but are deficient in other ways. That might have worked in 1970 but no longer. Every high stats kid knows the game and plays it well.

No. That’s not what I said. Having the stats is only the starting point. VT reserves the right to reject a high stats kid that writes a bad essay or has boring activities.

Was waiting for someone to spew this bullsh*t. A 1590 kid, who likely got into school(s) tiers above Tech, suddenly 'writes a bad essay or has boring activities'? Occom's razor. Look it up.

1590 isn't enough. VT has their own essay that can determine admission or rejection. If that essay is written poorly or the kid comes across as a bad fit for VT, the kid is getting rejected.

but don't you realize, it's not the essay? It's that their kid was "yield protected". (Sarcasm off now)

If a kid truly wants to go to tech, they will write an essay that is convincing. I told my kids---each college is your number 1 choice whenever you are writing their essays or communicating with someone at that school. IT's your job to sell yourself to them. Plenty of kids do just that.

But if Tech is truly your kid's safety and they already think with a 1590 they are in, then they might not do well on the essay and any other communication with the school.

This is what the world has come to. People are arguing that a kid with a 1590 should not get a chance to become an engineer unless he can write a compelling essay.

DP. No, the argument is that the kid with the 1590 is no different from the kid with a 1520. They are both top stats kids and the 1590 doesn't get some sort of bonus for scoring higher. Do you understand how many thousands of kids apply to these schools?

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Absolutely not. They are perpetually overenrolled and crowded. They offer a lot of spots and a lot of kids take them.

Overcrowded? Maybe a for couple of years in the past. Not anymore. Do you have any actual experience with the school or are you just part of the silly peanut galley?
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I have a child who has been living on campus for the past three years (cadets are required to live on campus all four years) so yes, actual experience. They currently have students (cadets and non-cadets) in lounges, and doubles serving as triples.

Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid from 23 applied to Pitt and UMN. As soon as those acceptances came in OCTOBER it was only top 50 thereafter. If you can find a rolling admissions school you like, APPLY!

This 1000% Work hard to have 2-3 safeties/likelies that your kid likes, and if they provide results earlier even better.

What's really a shame is when top students dont do this and then seem shocked they haven't gotten in anywhere and are scrambling. Why not spend a bit of time finding a safety that your kid loves? Don't say they don't exist---they do, you just have to get your head out of the sand and stop assuming your kid "deserves a T25 acceptance". My kid's safety for engineering was in the 60s, got great merit and they actually considered it in their final 3 up until the end. Why? because it was that good of a school. They ultimately had better choices, but they seriously revisited it in April just to make sure. That is what you want---when your kid considers a school ranked much lower in the final decision, even if you got acceptances at higher schools. Then you have done your job right

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Anonymous wrote:This is the problem for high stat kids…

There are only reaches and safeties no matches.

You apply to a safety because you are concerned you won’t get into your reaches and you might not get into your first choice safety due to yield protection.

You may apply to reaches and get rejected from all.

Kind of stinks to work so hard and have this happen.

Get a grip. High stat kids have thousands of colleges to choose from. Please stop and seek help if necessary.

New poster: genuinely high stats kids who have worked hard (versus all As for all) are usually not interested in those “thousands of colleges.”

There are at least 150-200 Top schools for kids like that. Not just 25 schools. But if you and your kid's attitude is "I don't want to attend a school ranked 75 or 120" then no doubt that might just show thru in your "why VA Tech essay" when it's your "safety school"
Plenty of very smart kids at most schools in the Top 150

VT is ranked #47 on USNWR.

My high stat kid from 23 applied to Pitt and UMN. As soon as those acceptances came in OCTOBER it was only top 50 thereafter. If you can find a rolling admissions school you like, APPLY!

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1. VT is not a safety.
2. VT does not yield-protect and says as much right on their website.

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection."

https://www.vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/counselor-corner.html#:~:text=Virginia%20Tech%20does%20not,participate%20in%20yield%20protection.

OP here.
I’ve heard that if you have over a 1500 SAT to watch out with VT. That’s really sad because it’s a top choice for my son. He submitted his app early (yesterday) plus we toured in Jan. Hopefully that signals to VT, that he is interested.

Next someone will say that VT doesn't care about DI. VT does care about DI AND yield protects regardless of what a lot VT cheerleaders come on here to say. If the department that your son is interested in has any sessions at all, make sure you attend to show interest even if you have attended a similar event previously. Engage with the department staff.

A lot of schools yield protect even though their stated policy may be "we don't yield protect". What are you going to do? Sue them? Kinda hard to prove your case given the opacity of the process. Don't really blame them though..A school that doesn't yield protect would pretty much admit every student that meets their academic/other threshold/standard for admission and deal with the consequences of low yield and waitlist management. Tech chooses not to do that and that's fine. People just need to be aware of this and plan accordingly.

If VT admitted every student that is in their profile, they would over enroll every year. Having the stats isn’t enough. If your kid had the stats and didn’t get in it’s not because of yield protection, it’s because that’s how selective admissions works. You can accept reality and move on or keep going in circles.

So you do admit they don't admit people that may fit their profile of an admitted student but they choose to not offer admission because that kid likely won't attend? That's the very definition of yield protection. And get over the stupid notion that these kids only have stats but are deficient in other ways. That might have worked in 1970 but no longer. Every high stats kid knows the game and plays it well.

No. That’s not what I said. Having the stats is only the starting point. VT reserves the right to reject a high stats kid that writes a bad essay or has boring activities.

Was waiting for someone to spew this bullsh*t. A 1590 kid, who likely got into school(s) tiers above Tech, suddenly 'writes a bad essay or has boring activities'? Occom's razor. Look it up.

1590 isn't enough. VT has their own essay that can determine admission or rejection. If that essay is written poorly or the kid comes across as a bad fit for VT, the kid is getting rejected.

but don't you realize, it's not the essay? It's that their kid was "yield protected". (Sarcasm off now)

If a kid truly wants to go to tech, they will write an essay that is convincing. I told my kids---each college is your number 1 choice whenever you are writing their essays or communicating with someone at that school. IT's your job to sell yourself to them. Plenty of kids do just that.

But if Tech is truly your kid's safety and they already think with a 1590 they are in, then they might not do well on the essay and any other communication with the school.

This is what the world has come to. People are arguing that a kid with a 1590 should not get a chance to become an engineer unless he can write a compelling essay.

Nobody ever said they cannot become an engineer. There are literally 100s of schools with excellent engineering majors. If anything, engineering is one where you simply want ABET certification. My engineering kid (1500/3.98UW/8AP) had these results

T10 ED deferred, then rejected
T20 WL
T20 Rejected
T30 WL
T40 Accepted
T50 Accepted (excellent merit)
T50 (State flagship) Accepted direct admit to engineering (acceptance rate is 25-30% or lower)
T50-60 Accepted, 1st year overseas (acceptance rates for main campus are 5%)
T60 Accepted (excellent merit)
T100 Accepted back in Oct (nearby state school with good engineering 70% acceptance rate and reciprocity for tuition).

exactly what we expected happened---WL or rejected at T30 schools.
Everything else they got accepted In reality they only got "rejected" at 2 schools, WL at 2 and accepted at all the other.

And chose between the T40, T50 (with excellent merit) and the T60 (which was their top safety and is that good it stayed in contention thru April)

There were at least 10-20 other schools my kid could have applied to for engineering (that don't have any direct admit stuff, so you get in you can be an engineer) in the T120-150.

If that isn't "good enough" for a student, then they need a life readjustment. The world is going to get real fast for them. Imagine their first job, when they realize that 50%+ of the people in the exact same position, starting with the exact same pay attended a "non-elite" school.
Or when they realize the same holds true thru the org structure, including their next 3 levels of bosses

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Anonymous wrote:This is the problem for high stat kids…

There are only reaches and safeties no matches.

You apply to a safety because you are concerned you won’t get into your reaches and you might not get into your first choice safety due to yield protection.

You may apply to reaches and get rejected from all.

Kind of stinks to work so hard and have this happen.

Get a grip. High stat kids have thousands of colleges to choose from. Please stop and seek help if necessary.

New poster: genuinely high stats kids who have worked hard (versus all As for all) are usually not interested in those “thousands of colleges.”

Why not?

Though we both know you know why, I’ll answer anyway: Because their sights are higher, their academic history is what they worked on for years for it to result in a good placement relative to their ability, etc. not everyone, and there are other reasons to pick a lower ranked school, but in general, most high stats kids are applying to excellent schools.

Not true. Higher stats kids from more rural, not as well off areas are not applying to only T25 schools. They are applying to their state schools and hoping for merit

Also, Both of my kids applied to many schools in the 0-120 range. My "average kid" with a 1280, 3.5UW, no AP picked between 2 ranked in the 80s. I can for certain tell you there are at least 20%+ of the kids on that campus with high stats (1400). really smart, driven kids. The school they attended has over 30% of kids graduating in the college of health sciences (heading to some type of medical degree ultimately)
If your kid cannot find their cohort in the honors program at a school like that, then that might help explain why they are not "attractive to T25 schools" who are looking for the entire person for admissions.

Get over yourself, plenty of smart kids go to state school with merit or "a tier or two lower private" with excellent merit. The thought of paying $90K/year isn't an option.

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1. VT is not a safety.
2. VT does not yield-protect and says as much right on their website.

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection."

https://www.vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/counselor-corner.html#:~:text=Virginia%20Tech%20does%20not,participate%20in%20yield%20protection.

OP here.
I’ve heard that if you have over a 1500 SAT to watch out with VT. That’s really sad because it’s a top choice for my son. He submitted his app early (yesterday) plus we toured in Jan. Hopefully that signals to VT, that he is interested.

Next someone will say that VT doesn't care about DI. VT does care about DI AND yield protects regardless of what a lot VT cheerleaders come on here to say. If the department that your son is interested in has any sessions at all, make sure you attend to show interest even if you have attended a similar event previously. Engage with the department staff.

A lot of schools yield protect even though their stated policy may be "we don't yield protect". What are you going to do? Sue them? Kinda hard to prove your case given the opacity of the process. Don't really blame them though..A school that doesn't yield protect would pretty much admit every student that meets their academic/other threshold/standard for admission and deal with the consequences of low yield and waitlist management. Tech chooses not to do that and that's fine. People just need to be aware of this and plan accordingly.

If VT admitted every student that is in their profile, they would over enroll every year. Having the stats isn’t enough. If your kid had the stats and didn’t get in it’s not because of yield protection, it’s because that’s how selective admissions works. You can accept reality and move on or keep going in circles.

So you do admit they don't admit people that may fit their profile of an admitted student but they choose to not offer admission because that kid likely won't attend? That's the very definition of yield protection. And get over the stupid notion that these kids only have stats but are deficient in other ways. That might have worked in 1970 but no longer. Every high stats kid knows the game and plays it well.

No. That’s not what I said. Having the stats is only the starting point. VT reserves the right to reject a high stats kid that writes a bad essay or has boring activities.

Was waiting for someone to spew this bullsh*t. A 1590 kid, who likely got into school(s) tiers above Tech, suddenly 'writes a bad essay or has boring activities'? Occom's razor. Look it up.

1590 isn't enough. VT has their own essay that can determine admission or rejection. If that essay is written poorly or the kid comes across as a bad fit for VT, the kid is getting rejected.

but don't you realize, it's not the essay? It's that their kid was "yield protected". (Sarcasm off now)

If a kid truly wants to go to tech, they will write an essay that is convincing. I told my kids---each college is your number 1 choice whenever you are writing their essays or communicating with someone at that school. IT's your job to sell yourself to them. Plenty of kids do just that.

But if Tech is truly your kid's safety and they already think with a 1590 they are in, then they might not do well on the essay and any other communication with the school.

This is what the world has come to. People are arguing that a kid with a 1590 should not get a chance to become an engineer unless he can write a compelling essay.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the problem for high stat kids…

There are only reaches and safeties no matches.

You apply to a safety because you are concerned you won’t get into your reaches and you might not get into your first choice safety due to yield protection.

You may apply to reaches and get rejected from all.

Kind of stinks to work so hard and have this happen.

Get a grip. High stat kids have thousands of colleges to choose from. Please stop and seek help if necessary.

New poster: genuinely high stats kids who have worked hard (versus all As for all) are usually not interested in those “thousands of colleges.”

There are at least 150-200 Top schools for kids like that. Not just 25 schools. But if you and your kid's attitude is "I don't want to attend a school ranked 75 or 120" then no doubt that might just show thru in your "why VA Tech essay" when it's your "safety school"
Plenty of very smart kids at most schools in the Top 150

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1. VT is not a safety.
2. VT does not yield-protect and says as much right on their website.

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection."

https://www.vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/counselor-corner.html#:~:text=Virginia%20Tech%20does%20not,participate%20in%20yield%20protection.

OP here.
I’ve heard that if you have over a 1500 SAT to watch out with VT. That’s really sad because it’s a top choice for my son. He submitted his app early (yesterday) plus we toured in Jan. Hopefully that signals to VT, that he is interested.

Next someone will say that VT doesn't care about DI. VT does care about DI AND yield protects regardless of what a lot VT cheerleaders come on here to say. If the department that your son is interested in has any sessions at all, make sure you attend to show interest even if you have attended a similar event previously. Engage with the department staff.

A lot of schools yield protect even though their stated policy may be "we don't yield protect". What are you going to do? Sue them? Kinda hard to prove your case given the opacity of the process. Don't really blame them though..A school that doesn't yield protect would pretty much admit every student that meets their academic/other threshold/standard for admission and deal with the consequences of low yield and waitlist management. Tech chooses not to do that and that's fine. People just need to be aware of this and plan accordingly.

If VT admitted every student that is in their profile, they would over enroll every year. Having the stats isn’t enough. If your kid had the stats and didn’t get in it’s not because of yield protection, it’s because that’s how selective admissions works. You can accept reality and move on or keep going in circles.

So you do admit they don't admit people that may fit their profile of an admitted student but they choose to not offer admission because that kid likely won't attend? That's the very definition of yield protection. And get over the stupid notion that these kids only have stats but are deficient in other ways. That might have worked in 1970 but no longer. Every high stats kid knows the game and plays it well.

No. That’s not what I said. Having the stats is only the starting point. VT reserves the right to reject a high stats kid that writes a bad essay or has boring activities.

Was waiting for someone to spew this bullsh*t. A 1590 kid, who likely got into school(s) tiers above Tech, suddenly 'writes a bad essay or has boring activities'? Occom's razor. Look it up.

1590 isn't enough. VT has their own essay that can determine admission or rejection. If that essay is written poorly or the kid comes across as a bad fit for VT, the kid is getting rejected.

but don't you realize, it's not the essay? It's that their kid was "yield protected". (Sarcasm off now)

If a kid truly wants to go to tech, they will write an essay that is convincing. I told my kids---each college is your number 1 choice whenever you are writing their essays or communicating with someone at that school. IT's your job to sell yourself to them. Plenty of kids do just that.

But if Tech is truly your kid's safety and they already think with a 1590 they are in, then they might not do well on the essay and any other communication with the school.