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Anonymous wrote:Probably. Do you have a son or daughter? If son, more likely to be accepted as the gender balance is out of whack.

That’s nearly all schools. Not just W&M. Look at the gender numbers at other schools, too. More women are pursuing higher education than men.

I think engineering is still dominated by boys.

not BME and not Environmental E at the elite/ivies: the top girls flood engineering in these fields and they are well over 60% female. CS is even 50-50 at some. Only EE remains heavily male. BME+premed is an extremely oversaturated female application group at all the top non-techy schools. Females tend to apply to ivy/elites with interdisciplinary focus in Engineering; males dominate the techy schools only. My D went to a top STEM magnet school and none of the top stem girls the last 5 yrs applied to VT, GT, CMU, UIUC. One applied to MIT. They all applied ivies Stanford Duke WashU as a backup and even Wake and W&L are preferred by female engineers over "techy" schools. Recently Swarthmore has gotten a lot of them. Almost all BME, CS, environmental. Females and Males in engineering get into elite schools all the time from this magnet, but the shift to tons of Engineering females is new in the past few years. We have a former JHU AO who works at the school and has noted that white males especially are underrepresented in the applicant pool at these schools and can get in easier than they can to CMU, MIT.

Anonymous wrote:W&M parent here. Why do we have to go over this every couple months again and again?

Yes, UVA has a lower acceptance rate as it offers engineering and bigger sports, etc. which W&M does not. So, it appeals to a larger group of prospective students. No hard feelings, why would there be? (at least not from me).

W&M has always been a bit more self-selecting due to its size, location and other factors including no engineering department, etc.

SAT/ACT test result submission is rapidly declining at both, but they are pretty much equal in the percentage that still do.

In my personal view, purely looking at admission % and caliber. Yes, UVA has a lower admission rate, but the caliber of kids getting into either is pretty much equal.

Let you kid decide which one is the better fit/offer for them. Visiting both, they should have a clear preference.

Yep. The caliber is the same and been the same for decades. The number of out-of-caliber students applying is higher for UVA. And going to my friends graduation - both camps seem to graduate with the look of a battered wife. No idea what kind of program humbles a 4.0+ kid. On that note - the VA Tech kids seem to run out of graduation like Vikings in spring time. The GMU kids look like nothing's changed - its part of life Man!

Anonymous wrote:BAD day for W&M grads

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BAD day for W&M grads

Anonymous wrote:What say you? If DC has exactly 4.3 gpa and a 1470 and is IB diploma candidate from a highly ranked fcps school, is he getting into W&M ED?

A boy? Probably so.

If a HE applying ED

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Anonymous wrote:What say you? If DC has exactly 4.3 gpa and a 1470 and is IB diploma candidate from a highly ranked fcps school, is he getting into W&M ED?

Probably should aim for ODU or Christopher Newport.

Solid advice. Thx.

Anonymous wrote:What say you? If DC has exactly 4.3 gpa and a 1470 and is IB diploma candidate from a highly ranked fcps school, is he getting into W&M ED?

Probably should aim for ODU or Christopher Newport.

What say you? If DC has exactly 4.3 gpa and a 1470 and is IB diploma candidate from a highly ranked fcps school, is he getting into W&M ED?

Anonymous wrote:Yes, and it is harder to get into Northeastern than UVA according to AI

Tulane is more selective than UVA according to AI.

Anonymous wrote:How many are accepted test optional at UVA vs W&M?

They have the same percentage of enrolled students that provided SAT or ACT. 59% with scores. 41% without. I don't have data on acceptance rates by with/without scores.

Imo the school of Computing and Data Sciences, and the new undergraduate Marine Science program are going to shake admissions up a lot over the next couple years so there's no point in fighting over selectivity

Yes, and it is harder to get into Northeastern than UVA according to AI

Anonymous wrote:Even AI says it is more difficult to get in to UVA than W&M. Google: More difficult to get in W&M and UVA.

Please tell me that this isn't what passes as "research" and "analysis" these days.

Anonymous wrote:How many are accepted test optional at UVA vs W&M?

Latest round:

UVA SAT 45%; ACT 13%
W&M SAT 43%; ACT 15%