Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FYI, Botox might be linked to ALS. The type of ALS that starts in the mouth disproportionately strikes older women, who also happen to be the target market of Botox.
Data: https://www.ehealthme.com/ds/botox/amyotrophic-lateral-sclerosis/
Of the nearly 70,000 users who reported side effects using Botox, 16 have reported having ALS. That’s your link? Do people even read and think about the links they post?
That's more than double the occurence in the general population.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FYI, Botox might be linked to ALS. The type of ALS that starts in the mouth disproportionately strikes older women, who also happen to be the target market of Botox.
Data: https://www.ehealthme.com/ds/botox/amyotrophic-lateral-sclerosis/
Of the nearly 70,000 users who reported side effects using Botox, 16 have reported having ALS. That’s your link? Do people even read and think about the links they post?
Anonymous wrote:FYI, Botox might be linked to ALS. The type of ALS that starts in the mouth disproportionately strikes older women, who also happen to be the target market of Botox.
Data: https://www.ehealthme.com/ds/botox/amyotrophic-lateral-sclerosis/
Anonymous wrote:Is it no big deal and fine?
Would you be fine to date but pause to marry and have kids?
I grew up in America but in my home country, many women get plastic surgery. My child has a friend who is below average with two beautiful parents. They could be the poster child for plastic surgery while their child has no features of her parents.
Wondering how people feel when the person they are dating had plastic surgery. How do you feel when you see an old photo and they look very different?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:lol. Someone asks what men think about plastic surgery. Most men answer that they don’t like it. Then women (who I presume have had work done) jump is to tell us why we’re wrong.
Maybe because they recognize that the men they are dating have no idea they had a nose job in the last, use Botox, had a boob job and yet seem very happy with their looks?
Maybe it’s about more than appearance. To me, it’s a red flag regarding values, confidence, and self esteem.
The point is that a lot of men don’t even know. See the posts from men who didn’t learn until later that the women they were dating had had a nose job.
The WHOLE point. Walk around smug and judgmental, with no idea. Of course your wife doesn't wear makeup, is naturally hair-free in all the right places, and has hair the never goes grey.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You ladies realize Botox is botulinum neurotoxin, right?
Oh wow. I started looking into this and you're right. So scary.
Another thing I found out is that when you have surgery they cut your skin open and you bleed!
Wow!
Maybe it’s just me, but injecting neurotoxins into your face seems like bad idea.
But I’m sure you have no issues drinking alcohol.
I’m not sure why you’re comparing Botox to alcohol. Are you saying Botox is an addiction? Or helps cover up for other insecurities?
I think pp's point is that we consume all kinds of "toxins" on a regular basis
WhoTF compares a glass of wine your body naturally digests in 6 hours to Botox shots into your forehead muscles?!?
Talk about idiotic. Thanks for yet another data point of these types.
Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the deal is with the anti-botox troll on here, but they can pound sand.
Botox is medically proven safe but does have risks. Just like so many other things. It's a personal choice that, when done well without excess, makes women look more like the conventional beauty standard. Obviously not without risk but not dissimilar to the concept of eyeliner or lipstick, or hair dye, or tattoos. If a woman wants that and can afford it, why would you care what she does? Why do you need to come on a message board and repeatedly whine about fRoZeN FoReHeaDs and ToXins!!!!?
Being rabidly anti-botox and posting #tRiGgErEd on every post trying to defend a beauty treatment is a strange look.
What's your actual deal? Is it that you can't afford it (that's not fun, I get it)? Is it that you are afraid your daughter will develop unrealistic beauty standards (that's fair)? Did your husband cheat on you with an agressively over-botoxed woman (yikes, sorry)? Is your main frenemy in your Thursday night ladies' bible group hitting the xeomin just a touch too hard and every over-botoxed face you see reminds you of her (again, sorry)?
I mean, process those feelings I guess. But lay off the average woman who has 30 units and just goes about her life as consultant or teacher or lawyer or mom without looking like a weirdo or dying of botulism.
And I am not the wine poster, but I highly recommend you have a glass or two. Who knows, you might relax enough to not be such a miserable sanctimonious shrew for an hour or two!
Anonymous wrote:I am a woman and I always KNOW if you’ve done Botox. From the smooth forehead with wrinkles at the hairline and so on. It’s just so obvious. You’re truly not fooling anyone but yourself. I cannot even eat lunch with my ds without laughing. She looks like Tim Allan in that Christmas movie. I am always being told it takes a little for it to settle and for the life of me I cannot understand why she does this. She’s beautiful and highly accomplished, Botox is not necessary. She’s venturing into injectibles and the chubby cheeks is more than I can take. I would sue her one for if I weee her. There’s just something so wrong with turning someone into a space alien. All of her friends do this and they think they are the best looking in the room. It’s painful and laughable at the same time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It really doesn’t matter what the man thinks anyone. It should always be what the woman wants. It’s her body.
You know "the man" also gets to choose whether to be in the relationship, right?