Anonymous
Post 07/26/2024 08:03     Subject: Re:would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would let her. Being overweight is an incredible burden and can impact her marriage prospects considerably.


Her bmi is normal. She isn’t overweight


8/10 is pretty big these days. It’s more like an old school 14. Not sure I’d let her do it though. Does she have weight to lose or is she big boned?
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2024 07:56     Subject: Re:would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would let her. Being overweight is an incredible burden and can impact her marriage prospects considerably.


Google Ozempic boobs and Ozempic but.

Those outcomes will not help marriage prospects either. You can’t stay on it forever and most people will regain all of they lose plus more.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2024 03:40     Subject: Re:would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Anonymous wrote:I am probably similar numbers (though taller and heavier) - and I have been working with an obesity medicine specialist. She has about 10 drugs she uses before the semi glutides for people in our BMI. I would recommend seeing one of them before she jumps on wegovy - the newest research says most need to stay on it for life and other medications can be more transient. Revolution Medicine in Bethesda is one of the practices I looked at - they take insurance - I didn't end up using them because of geography and used a practice in NoVa, but I think I'd have her start there?


+1

Contrave is helpful when paired with a low-carb /high protein + high micronutrient approach to food. (For those already on Wellbutrin, a doctor can just add a prescription for Naltrexone. Those two together = Contrave. Suppresses appetite and reduces food cravings and preoccupation with food “food noise,” more generally. Helpful when learning to adjust to a new (healthier) way of eating.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2024 01:46     Subject: Re:would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would let her. Being overweight is an incredible burden and can impact her marriage prospects considerably.


Her bmi is normal. She isn’t overweight


Yes, but hot or not is the way it goes these days.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2024 11:03     Subject: Re:would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Doesn’t it cost a lot? How much money does she actually have? I can’t imagine any decent doctor would actually put her on this.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2024 10:41     Subject: would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think these drugs are a lifesaver for obese and morbidly obese folks.

Your daughter is neither.

I'd also reconsider the pat on the back you give yourself for not discussing her weight. Why does she not feel comfortable in her (perfectly normal) body? Why haven't you instilled a high level of self esteem for her weight? Sorry, but I think you've failed somewhere if she feels this way and is specifically asking your advice on this.

So no, I wouldn't recommend this drug for a perfectly normal teen. And I question the parenting of anyone who would.


This mom has NOT failed. Her daughter is coming to her with her concerns and advice.

You just know that a lifetime of body positivity messaging at home can be undone in a couple of weeks on Instagram or with peers. A mom is not one influencer in her child's life and is not solely responsible for a child's body image.

Well she certainly shouldn't be patting herself on the back if her normal weighted daughter wants to take extreme drugs to lose weight. Clearly something went wrong, parents are the first line of defense here.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2024 10:30     Subject: Re:would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

I am probably similar numbers (though taller and heavier) - and I have been working with an obesity medicine specialist. She has about 10 drugs she uses before the semi glutides for people in our BMI. I would recommend seeing one of them before she jumps on wegovy - the newest research says most need to stay on it for life and other medications can be more transient. Revolution Medicine in Bethesda is one of the practices I looked at - they take insurance - I didn't end up using them because of geography and used a practice in NoVa, but I think I'd have her start there?
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2024 10:26     Subject: would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2


You know that being morbidly obese puts you at risk of all kinds of cancers and heart disease right??????? GFC


Yes we know that’s the obligatory retort to every study that says these drugs are dangerous


There arent' any studies that say 'these drugs are dangerous'. BTW these drugs have been in use for nearly 2 decades. But there are many many studies that show that obesity puts you at risk of many cancers, heart disease and other comorbidities that kill often.


OP's dd is not obese at all! These drugs are miraculous for many people, but a just overweight young woman has no business being on them: 1.the cost is too high, 2. she doesn't need it because she can achieve results through portion control and better nutrition choices for such a small amount of weight. 3. If she can't lose now because she can't achieve 2., she will likely not sustain the weight loss without them once she stops, and does she really want to be on those drugs for 70 years?
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2024 10:18     Subject: would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If she is a healthy eater and exercising 5 days a week and unable to lose weight, I would first see an endocrinologist and run very thorough blood tests to see if there is an underlying condition (hypothyroid, some form of PCOS, other hormonal issues) before I'd consider Ozempic.


She’s eating “too much.” Sadly even an active woman doesn’t need a lot of cals. She has to cut her cals and feel hungry.


This. Also, let’s say she does go on it and continues indefinitely. If she eventually decides to get pregnant she’ll have to stop the meds and will gain it all back. Perhaps by that point, there will be other options.


PP here. Also, I’d have her wait until she’s done with college and/or start in mid to late 20s at which time she’ll like be at a more stable size (maybe having gained additional weight). Perhaps, in the meantime, she can consider other non injectable RX weight loss drugs?
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2024 10:14     Subject: would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If she is a healthy eater and exercising 5 days a week and unable to lose weight, I would first see an endocrinologist and run very thorough blood tests to see if there is an underlying condition (hypothyroid, some form of PCOS, other hormonal issues) before I'd consider Ozempic.


She’s eating “too much.” Sadly even an active woman doesn’t need a lot of cals. She has to cut her cals and feel hungry.


This. Also, let’s say she does go on it and continues indefinitely. If she eventually decides to get pregnant she’ll have to stop the meds and will gain it all back. Perhaps by that point, there will be other options.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2024 21:01     Subject: would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2


You know that being morbidly obese puts you at risk of all kinds of cancers and heart disease right??????? GFC


Yes we know that’s the obligatory retort to every study that says these drugs are dangerous


There arent' any studies that say 'these drugs are dangerous'. BTW these drugs have been in use for nearly 2 decades. But there are many many studies that show that obesity puts you at risk of many cancers, heart disease and other comorbidities that kill often.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2024 20:56     Subject: would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

I'm actually on Wegovy and it's been really successful (I no longer need cholesterol medication) but my BMI was actually obese. Your dd is not in the obese category.

I think she should see a nutritionist first. I think some dietary changes could help her lose a little. But she's not really overweight. And the medications don't make you 'slim', I mean I have lost 40 lbs but I'm never going to be a 'slim' person-healthy weight yes, but slim isn't my build.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2024 15:44     Subject: would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

How on earth does an 18 year old have the money for it? That seems crazy to me.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2024 13:02     Subject: would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, the most important point is that she’s building her bones until 25. Even for diabetes-control, I wouldn’t put a girl in this class of drugs until after 25.


In addition, lots of people meet their spouses in college. She should want someone who is attracted to her body now. If she snags a guy who likes lean body type because she’s on weight-loss drugs, she’ll either be tied to the drugs for life, or he might feel that she pulled a bait and switch after she goes off them and resumes her natural metabolism.

For example, I have a less-desirable hair type. I’ve had a guy who was attracted to me straight out reject me once he saw my natural hair. It was informative. Unless I wanted to straighten my hair every day for the rest of my life, I was better off moving through the dating works with natural hair. It let me focus on guys who thought I was pretty, as-is. In the long-term, she’s better off moving though the dating world using nutrition and exercise to have a healthy body at her natural set point.


Your hair is beautiful.


That’s sweet of you to say, and DH agrees, but it’s definitely an opinion, not a fact. I’ve met men who disagree with you.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2024 12:56     Subject: would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd help her get a personal trainer and try that for 6 months first. Is she about to start college? If so, that would be even more helpful to try to avoid gaining weight as a freshman. I have a similar build and was always able to up the exercise and stay slim until I hit 45. Now absolutely nothing has worked, and my numbers were all bordering on unhealthy. I have gone on a very low dose of ozempic and got my weight back down some (down to 152). I intend to stay on it until I get to 135. I had never been that overweight, and it was even impacting my ability to work out (was starting to get arthritis and issues in my knees and ankles). I'd save the ozempic until she has exhausted everything else.


It's you. Hi. You're the problem. It's you.

Stop taking drugs for a vanity purpose when people who need them can't get them. These drugs are meant for those with A1C/diabetes issues and severe weight issues. Not because you hit pre menopause and aren't feeling "slim" any more.


Wegovy is approved for weight loss. It's the same medication as Ozempic under a different name. Try harder next time.


It's approved for weight loss for people with obesity and comorbidities of obesity, like high blood pressure. Not to get you from 150 to 135 in perimenopause. I grew with the PP here; yih are the problem. So many people who desperately need Wegovy to lose 100+ pounds can't get it because people like you are on it and don't need to be.


Oh please. That has nothing to do with the drugs being the same. And I successfully lost 70 lbs not 15 and am healthier than I ever was because I was on BP meds and high cholesterol meds. However, I also don't care to shame people who are taking them for whatever reason because the drug manufacturers are trying to maximize profits and keep the supply low.