Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 19:08     Subject: Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love how people are losing their minds over one three-unit townhouse complex on their street. I'm in the Penrose neighborhood (South Arlington) and we are the epitome of Missing Middle. On my street we have old duplexes, old apartment buildings of various sizes, subsidized apartments, a large apartment complex, and older single family houses. I'm living in an eight-plex and somehow all of us in the neighborhood are getting along just fine. You take this same concept north of the Langston Blvd are people are going nuts about it.


You chose to live there. People living in Donaldson Run chose another way of living. Now your type of living is being foisted on them. Get it?



Did they really? Did everyone in Donaldson Run vote for anti-housing candidates over the past 10 years, or did they just believe the housing debate would never come to their neighborhood? Hint: if you voted for any Democrat county board candidates in the last 10 years, you voted for people running on a pro-housing platform.


The DR civic association did a poll on MM a while back, and if memory serves it was about 50-50. So there are plenty of people who live there who support it.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 15:08     Subject: Re:Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This lot is just crying out for a 6-plex. Totally fits the lot and neighborhood and is soooo convenient to transit. What a great choice Arlington County Board!!! Thanks so much for making it possible!!

https://redf.in/Cqyjaf


It's 2 blocks from the ART bus, which can then take someone 1 mile to Ballston metro. There are other bus lines on Glebe, but I think ART to Metro is the most likely scenario.


No one buying a million dollar townhouse is wasting so many hours taking the ART to Metro.


PP linked to a lot that's been approved for a 6 plex. That building is going to be a rental full of 1-2 bedroom units.


Wait, WHAT?


Yeah it says it's approved for a 6 unit multifamily building on Arlington's tracker. Anything above 3 units is likely to be a rental building. Nobody is setting up a condo for 4-6 units.


They did on Langston.


Those buildings weren't built under the EHO regulations. The parcels have larger footprints and more generous height allowances, therefore the units can be bigger. Nobody is setting up a condo for a 6-plex on an R-5 or R-6 lot. Do you have any idea how tiny those units will be?
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 05:45     Subject: Re:Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Certainly everyone has different opinions. And change can be difficult. Also it seems more related to interest rates, in my neighborhood, we are seeing SFHs rented out, sometimes by heirs (often to families, not group homes)

I personally see so many positives to allowing builders more flexibility to build what buyers want to buy.

There is significantly more demand for the $1-1.5M new build than the $2-3M+ new build with 7 bedrooms.



You have been fooled by the "affordable housing" advocates funded by the developers and real estate lobby. Most of these units not provide ownership opportunities for Arlington residents. They will be rentals that are sold to wealthy investors. Builder/Developers don't care about the middle class homeownership or quality of life for Arlington residents. They will gladly destroy Arlington to make money. They want to remove every reasonable development standard imposed by the county regardless of how it harms the overall health and welfare of residents. The only thing they care about it money. Remember these are the same lobbyists that were claiming that approving the Prince William Digital Gateway (the worlds largest data center project that will create massive amounts of pollution) is a "social justice" issue.


Idk, even if Arlington is "ruined" according to the MM opponents, that will take years. Won't most of your all's kids be out of the house by then? Nobody actually wants to retire and live here unless they have to, right? I feel like you can get out before this place goes to hell in a handbasket (according to your definition of hell).


The number of MM properties is limited so we can see how it goes. If it's a disaster we can change it. But sprinkling a small number of MF units across the county isn't going to make a huge impact on the market.

The whole "hell in a handbasket" shtick is election year faux hysteria.

And this is a very transitional area. It's not a big deal if most MM units are rentals.


No MM rentals will essentially spread like a plague. You drop an MM with 3 group houses in a neighborhood, suddenly the marketability of surrounding homes to families drops, and the owners will be incentivized to move away — and the most ready buyer will be another MM builder.

They want to scatter them like spores throughout the county, and watch as families flee — parents moved away from DC and the party scene for a reason, and we are importing it into the family oriented suburbs.

Final death knell for APS as well, families will just move across the line to McLean and leave this idiocy behind.

I mean I know if they tore down our neighbors house, and built a triplex populated by group homes with 4 guys, we are moving our daughters elsewhere.


Baseless hysteria. There just aren’t that many permits per year.

Young people don’t want group homes away from the action. Your daughters are safe.


Are you kidding, if for the same rent they can get a townhouse with a yard to host BBQ and watch parties until all hours for the same price as a Clarndon apartment, that is only a 5 min uber from the "action"?


Yes. You clearly didn’t live here in your 20s.

A few people had group homes farther out but most tried to be walking distance.

I don’t get the obsession with group homes. That isn’t the target market here.


Are you in your 20s? Because they Uber everywhere now.


And we cabbed everywhere that wasn't right in walking distance.

Don't worry. The bros don't want to live out in BFE.



You are so out of touch. Cabs??


Sorry that you’re having a hard time following. Cabs were the Ubers before Ubers were a thing. Uber didn’t suddenly make people mobile.

Young people like to be close to the action, not out in BFE with slow-witted NIMBYs.



The slow witted people that can afford houses?

Your are adorbs.


The ones who can’t follow comments and can’t afford to live closer in.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 05:44     Subject: Re:Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This lot is just crying out for a 6-plex. Totally fits the lot and neighborhood and is soooo convenient to transit. What a great choice Arlington County Board!!! Thanks so much for making it possible!!

https://redf.in/Cqyjaf


It's 2 blocks from the ART bus, which can then take someone 1 mile to Ballston metro. There are other bus lines on Glebe, but I think ART to Metro is the most likely scenario.


No one buying a million dollar townhouse is wasting so many hours taking the ART to Metro.


PP linked to a lot that's been approved for a 6 plex. That building is going to be a rental full of 1-2 bedroom units.


Wait, WHAT?


Yeah it says it's approved for a 6 unit multifamily building on Arlington's tracker. Anything above 3 units is likely to be a rental building. Nobody is setting up a condo for 4-6 units.


They did on Langston.


Where?


Near Highland.