Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.
Lack of basic Geographical awareness is pervasive throughout the United States and has been for decades. It should come as no surprise to experience it anywhere in this country. Truly sad state of affairs.
You attended an information session and you don’t even know the name of the college(s)? Of all the things that never happened, this didn’t happen the most.
There is a College of Liberal Arts at UT, but it does not include either art or sciences. Art is in the College of Fine Arts. Science is in the College of Natural Sciences.
If you’re going to make stuff up, at least do a basic amount of research first.
Manhattan is in Kansas. Duh.
I think you’re confusing me with someone else. I was simply commenting on a student unaware of the borough of Manhattan in NYC.
The bolded is not from you? It immediately precedes the comment about Manhattan. It is incorrect.
If your Manhattan anecdote actually happened the way you describe, which I doubt, did it possibly occur to all of you wringing your hands that the student in question is likely from an underprivileged or even just non-privileged background and did not spend their childhood jetting off to NY for the weekend to shop and see Broadway plays? Exactly the kind of student the “top 6%” admissions program was designed to offer an opportunity to succeed.
You people talk a lot about wanting to expose your kid to diversity of experience, but you start wringing your hands when it might include exposing your kid to someone who might not have had all the privileges your kid had. You do need to stick with “elite” schools in the NE, where “diversity” means your kid can go to college with rich kids of many different ethnicities.
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Once again, you’re directing your ire at the wrong person. I’m originally from the Detroit area. I had a public education at a good suburban school district. I was not the one who originally stated the, “Manhattan anecdote.” Never jetted off to NYC to see Broadway plays either. Saying all that, if you were born in this country, are over the age of 18, and are not aware of where Manhattan is then you are an idiot.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.
Lack of basic Geographical awareness is pervasive throughout the United States and has been for decades. It should come as no surprise to experience it anywhere in this country. Truly sad state of affairs.
You attended an information session and you don’t even know the name of the college(s)? Of all the things that never happened, this didn’t happen the most.
There is a College of Liberal Arts at UT, but it does not include either art or sciences. Art is in the College of Fine Arts. Science is in the College of Natural Sciences.
If you’re going to make stuff up, at least do a basic amount of research first.
I think you’re confusing me with someone else. I was simply commenting on a student unaware of the borough of Manhattan in NYC.
The bolded is not from you? It immediately precedes the comment about Manhattan. It is incorrect.
If your Manhattan anecdote actually happened the way you describe, which I doubt, did it possibly occur to all of you wringing your hands that the student in question is likely from an underprivileged or even just non-privileged background and did not spend their childhood jetting off to NY for the weekend to shop and see Broadway plays? Exactly the kind of student the “top 6%” admissions program was designed to offer an opportunity to succeed.
You people talk a lot about wanting to expose your kid to diversity of experience, but you start wringing your hands when it might include exposing your kid to someone who might not have had all the privileges your kid had. You do need to stick with “elite” schools in the NE, where “diversity” means your kid can go to college with rich kids of many different ethnicities.
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Once again, you’re directing your ire at the wrong person. I’m originally from the Detroit area. I had a public education at a good suburban school district. I was not the one who originally stated the, “Manhattan anecdote.” Never jetted off to NYC to see Broadway plays either. Saying all that, if you were born in this country, are over the age of 18, and are not aware of where Manhattan is then you are an idiot.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.
Lack of basic Geographical awareness is pervasive throughout the United States and has been for decades. It should come as no surprise to experience it anywhere in this country. Truly sad state of affairs.
You attended an information session and you don’t even know the name of the college(s)? Of all the things that never happened, this didn’t happen the most.
There is a College of Liberal Arts at UT, but it does not include either art or sciences. Art is in the College of Fine Arts. Science is in the College of Natural Sciences.
If you’re going to make stuff up, at least do a basic amount of research first.
I think you’re confusing me with someone else. I was simply commenting on a student unaware of the borough of Manhattan in NYC.
The bolded is not from you? It immediately precedes the comment about Manhattan. It is incorrect.
If your Manhattan anecdote actually happened the way you describe, which I doubt, did it possibly occur to all of you wringing your hands that the student in question is likely from an underprivileged or even just non-privileged background and did not spend their childhood jetting off to NY for the weekend to shop and see Broadway plays? Exactly the kind of student the “top 6%” admissions program was designed to offer an opportunity to succeed.
You people talk a lot about wanting to expose your kid to diversity of experience, but you start wringing your hands when it might include exposing your kid to someone who might not have had all the privileges your kid had. You do need to stick with “elite” schools in the NE, where “diversity” means your kid can go to college with rich kids of many different ethnicities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.
Lack of basic Geographical awareness is pervasive throughout the United States and has been for decades. It should come as no surprise to experience it anywhere in this country. Truly sad state of affairs.
You attended an information session and you don’t even know the name of the college(s)? Of all the things that never happened, this didn’t happen the most.
There is a College of Liberal Arts at UT, but it does not include either art or sciences. Art is in the College of Fine Arts. Science is in the College of Natural Sciences.
If you’re going to make stuff up, at least do a basic amount of research first.
I think you’re confusing me with someone else. I was simply commenting on a student unaware of the borough of Manhattan in NYC.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These are the Ters
Cal, UCLA, Mich
UT Austin, UNC, UVA, GTech, UCSB, UCSD
UF UGA Wisc, UCI, UCDavis,
UIUC
Close. More like:
Cal, UCLA, Mich
UNC, UVA, GTech
UF, Wisco
UGA, UIUC, Purdue
Notice all those other UC schools are absent. Just because U.S. News & Woke Reports ranks them highly now because of Pell Grant and first-gen data doesn't mean they're elite schools. Solid, yes, but not among the 10-12 best publics -- no way.
Why did you leave UT-Austin (the school this thread is actually about) off your list? It belongs somewhere in between your 2nd and 3rd groups of schools.
Oversight. It should be with UF and Wisco despite its impossible admissions from OOS. That is balanced by the fact that anyone from Texas can get in, even with a 900 SAT, if they finish in the top 6% of their hood/trailer park high school.
No one who gets a 900 on the SAT is finishing in the top 6% of their high school class...no matter how hood/trailer park.
It does seem low. However, there is no question that the top 6% rule allows students to matriculate to Texas that wouldn’t be admitted if they were based on merit.
Huh? Top 10 in a class of 200 or so at some terrible high school in a rural area near the Mexican border? You deserve it, based on merit. Will you then have to up your game and make up deficits at UT? Yes.
The average SAT score in Texas is about 1000. So 900 is not out of line with the Texas public schools.
And I agree. Students who are in schools in the worst gang infested neighborhoods where nobody is invested in education and they still did a good job deserve a chance.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree with other posters than Cal is in its own league, with UCLA and Michigan close.
UT is a tough admit, but so are UCs. IMO the “elite level” is static. 10+ years in the future it will actually be easier to get into college as we see declining birth rates.
I don’t think UT is better or worse than UCSD, UCSB, UCI, UF, UIUC, UW-M. These schools will always be in the T25-T50 range with some slight movement year over year.
I know UT has strong engineering and business programs. But the other “tier 2” schools also have their own strong programs. TBH, UT has never really been on my radar until the last few years, so no it will never catch up to Berkeley or Michigan.
I’m sure Austin is awesome and is becoming more and more of an attractive city! But I have a slight bias for West Coast and Midwest schoolsCan’t pay me to move to TX.
UT isn’t in Texas, it’s in Austin. And I say that only slightly tongue-in-cheek.
+1
Keep Austin weird.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These are the Ters
Cal, UCLA, Mich
UT Austin, UNC, UVA, GTech, UCSB, UCSD
UF UGA Wisc, UCI, UCDavis,
UIUC
Close. More like:
Cal, UCLA, Mich
UNC, UVA, GTech
UF, Wisco
UGA, UIUC, Purdue
Notice all those other UC schools are absent. Just because U.S. News & Woke Reports ranks them highly now because of Pell Grant and first-gen data doesn't mean they're elite schools. Solid, yes, but not among the 10-12 best publics -- no way.
Why did you leave UT-Austin (the school this thread is actually about) off your list? It belongs somewhere in between your 2nd and 3rd groups of schools.
Oversight. It should be with UF and Wisco despite its impossible admissions from OOS. That is balanced by the fact that anyone from Texas can get in, even with a 900 SAT, if they finish in the top 6% of their hood/trailer park high school.
No one who gets a 900 on the SAT is finishing in the top 6% of their high school class...no matter how hood/trailer park.
It does seem low. However, there is no question that the top 6% rule allows students to matriculate to Texas that wouldn’t be admitted if they were based on merit.
Huh? Top 10 in a class of 200 or so at some terrible high school in a rural area near the Mexican border? You deserve it, based on merit. Will you then have to up your game and make up deficits at UT? Yes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.
Regarding the Manhattan comment, can you name the “wealthiest” part of Dallas? Manhattan is one of the 5 boroughs of NYC. It’s a section/part of a city and the wealthiest part of the city. Highland Park is the wealthiest part of Dallas and about 3.5 hrs from Austin. Similar to the distance between NYC and DC. They would probably roll their eyes at you if didn’t know Highland Park.
Anonymous wrote:Don’t be homophonic.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not knowing Manhattan does seem a little strange. I would think that was just part of American culture by this point.
Why? Because it was mentioned on Sex and the City when Miranda moved from Manhattan to Brooklyn (the horrors). The kids in university these days were too young for that.
That said, I am going to quiz my 3 kids today to see if they know where Manhattan is.
Anyone who doesn't know where Manhattan is probably road the short bus.
Seriously? You need to get out of the 1990s and come join us in 2024. On the way, pick up a grammar book that teaches homophones.