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Anonymous wrote:Cambridge is the only school that MIT allows the transfers of letter grades from. My friends that did the exchange absolutely loved Cambridge and some went back for post-graduate studies. My roommate still lives there and is married and a British citizen now.

Cambridge is an easier admit for Americans.

Not for STEM.

Also, Cambridge still requires 5 5s on APs.

But these all AP and test score requirements are pretty low for the UK. A low floor, indeed. My kid's high school didn't offer APs, which is pretty typical for privates now, and about a third of the class sits for APs anyway to maybe get credit or placement - in a "can't hurt" kind of way - and most end up with 5-9 5s. (The whole AP thing is a bit of a racket, right? It's only in back half of senior year that you know if any of these scores are useful or not.)

Yes, definitely for STEM; if you take into account how HYPS does account for major (without admitting it), STEM at Cambridge (though a very difficult admit, to be sure) is a far easier admit than a STEM kid at Stanford…

Look at it this way: 1/13 Computer Science applicants at Cambridge are admitted (8%). What do you think the admissions rate is for CS at HYPSM? Is it even 2%? Natural sciences? Please. 1/4 applicants at Cambridge are admitted.

What’s worse is that the curriculum at Cambridge is set in stone. An American CS whiz will learn nothing the entire first year, taking the equivalent of remedial courses (for them). The philosophy is everyone in the same boat from the start and all will be good eventually. It is a very European — and non- American — attitude.

There are no restrictions in the US on who can apply to Harvard. There are plenty of restrictions in the UK on who can apply to Ox or Cambs. The school has to give permission and its normally a very small handful of candidates each year. So it’s a self selecting group already of highly qualified students. Your numbers are meaningless when you don't have this information.

There are no school restrictions, anywhere, on Oxbridge apps, other than an applicant meeting the minimum requirements. And the percentage of UK kids with the requisite A-levels is very high. Anyhow, love to see a cite about these mysterious “gatekeeper” restrictions you are referring to instead of this gobbledygook.

Anyhow, 1/3 of Oxbridge apps aren’t even from the UK. To say the least, it is far easier for a UK kid to get into Oxbridge (or even a Chinese, Indian, or American kid) than it is for any of those groups to get into Harvard. By such an order of magnitude in terms of raw numbers (4-20x easier, in fact), than even a 2-3x adjustment in your favor gets you nowhere where. It is not even close.

But go ahead, believe Oxbridge is as selective as HYPS. Or even Emory. The admissions stats are there to see, at Oxford and Cambridge, for every course of study. Numbers are stubborn things.

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it is a shame you wasted so much time on an ill informed post. If you don't have the backing of your school admin in the UK you cannot, literally cannot apply to ox or cambs.

You are clearly a total moron

Cite? And we aren’t talking about which kids Eton is supporting. Andover does the same in the US. Show me an article about any UK kid who wants to apply to Oxbridge but cannot do so because the school won’t let him. This is a new one under UCAS. Still waiting.

Ask anyone from England ever. Phone any school you care to and ask them directly what their policy is. It's a known fact throughout the nation and by some better informed people in the US. It's not made up, you're just completely ignorant and view everything thru an American lens only. Not everywhere works the way it works here, just because you think it does.

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Anonymous wrote:Williams employs the Oxford tutorial system. Swarthmore Honors Seminars also similar.

But not for all four years in one subject.

That doesn’t happen at US undergrad.

YOu're an idiot looking for an argument. The systems are very different. In the UK system you focus - as you would on a masters - on one topic for four years. YOu don't do that in the american liberal arts tradition. Why are you fighting this? Everyone knows this.

Everyone knows that degrees in England are only 3 years.

Nope, they dont:

Undergraduate
An undergraduate degree normally takes three years to complete but can take longer if it includes an industrial placement, an additional subject or a year abroad. Many degrees specialise in certain subjects from Year 1.

Types of undergraduate degree include:

BSc (Bachelor of Science) - a science degree

BA (Bachelor of Arts) - an arts degree
BEng (Bachelor of Engineering) - an engineering degree
Undergraduate master’s degree (eg MEng) - an enhanced four-year undergraduate degree including extra subjects studied at a deeper level

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Anonymous wrote:Williams employs the Oxford tutorial system. Swarthmore Honors Seminars also similar.

But not for all four years in one subject.

That doesn’t happen at US undergrad.

YOu're an idiot looking for an argument. The systems are very different. In the UK system you focus - as you would on a masters - on one topic for four years. YOu don't do that in the american liberal arts tradition. Why are you fighting this? Everyone knows this.

Everyone knows that degrees in England are only 3 years.

uh, not for Americans. . . . .

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Anonymous wrote:Williams employs the Oxford tutorial system. Swarthmore Honors Seminars also similar.

Amherst has a direct enrollment program for study abroad. We consider that the best of both worlds.

Williams has the better program with WEPO. Pomona if you want Cambridge.

Interesting response, since New College (the Amherst program) is both wealthier and more prestigious than Exeter (Williams).
https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-at-oxford/

There’s no comparison. Williams has its own fellowships to Oxford and a very close relationship.

I'd prefer my kid attend one of the top-ranked colleges, but you do you.

But they aren’t? They’re going abroad. Yeesh, you seem obnoxious.

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Anonymous wrote:Williams employs the Oxford tutorial system. Swarthmore Honors Seminars also similar.

Amherst has a direct enrollment program for study abroad. We consider that the best of both worlds.

Williams has the better program with WEPO. Pomona if you want Cambridge.

Interesting response, since New College (the Amherst program) is both wealthier and more prestigious than Exeter (Williams).
https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-at-oxford/

There’s no comparison. Williams has its own fellowships to Oxford and a very close relationship.

I'd prefer my kid attend one of the top-ranked colleges, but you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:Williams employs the Oxford tutorial system. Swarthmore Honors Seminars also similar.

Amherst has a direct enrollment program for study abroad. We consider that the best of both worlds.

Williams has the better program with WEPO. Pomona if you want Cambridge.

Interesting response, since New College (the Amherst program) is both wealthier and more prestigious than Exeter (Williams).
https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-at-oxford/

There’s no comparison. Williams has its own fellowships to Oxford and a very close relationship.

I'd prefer my kid attend one of the top-ranked colleges, but you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:Williams employs the Oxford tutorial system. Swarthmore Honors Seminars also similar.

Amherst has a direct enrollment program for study abroad. We consider that the best of both worlds.

Williams has the better program with WEPO. Pomona if you want Cambridge.

Interesting response, since New College (the Amherst program) is both wealthier and more prestigious than Exeter (Williams).
https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-at-oxford/

There’s no comparison. Williams has its own fellowships to Oxford and a very close relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:Williams employs the Oxford tutorial system. Swarthmore Honors Seminars also similar.

Amherst has a direct enrollment program for study abroad. We consider that the best of both worlds.

Williams has the better program with WEPO. Pomona if you want Cambridge.

Interesting response, since New College (the Amherst program) is both wealthier and more prestigious than Exeter (Williams).
https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-at-oxford/

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Anonymous wrote:Williams employs the Oxford tutorial system. Swarthmore Honors Seminars also similar.

Amherst has a direct enrollment program for study abroad. We consider that the best of both worlds.

Williams has the better program with WEPO. Pomona if you want Cambridge.

Interesting response, since New College (the Amherst program) is both wealthier and more prestigious than Exeter (Williams).
https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/best-colleges-at-oxford/

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Anonymous wrote:Williams employs the Oxford tutorial system. Swarthmore Honors Seminars also similar.

Amherst has a direct enrollment program for study abroad. We consider that the best of both worlds.

Williams has the better program with WEPO. Pomona if you want Cambridge.

Anonymous wrote:Ideally do an Ivy or top SLAC undergrad then a second degree at Oxbridge. That way you can get the best of American liberal arts education (with a serious humanistic curriculum not a check the box or high school 2.0) and then two years of something like the BPhil or MSt at Oxford.

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Anonymous wrote:How do US Students get into Oxbridge science programs?

The website says they expect 5 AP scores, focuses on or near the major, including Calculus BC and Physics C (both parts) scores. It's rare to take all of these and extremely rare to take them all in junior year, and also take more related APs like Bio and Chem and CS.

Do US high school students take a gap year and apply to Oxbridge after senior year?

It isn't rare to do any of that. Many US kids graduating with 10+ Ap courses all the time.