Anonymous
04/23/2024 06:41
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Anonymous wrote:Here is a tier ranking from another thread a little while back.
Tier 1 - HPSM (tops academically at everything, no special recruitment tactics needed)
Tier 2 - Caltech, UPenn, Duke, Yale, Columbia (great academically at vast majority of things, highly desirable but still employ some special recruitment tactics to compete with Tier 1)
Tier 3 - Brown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Rice, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, UMich, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Harvey Mudd, Olin College of Engineering (great academically at many things, slightly less desirable than previous tiers and slightly worse undergrad outcomes)
Tier 4 - UVA, NYU, UNC, Georgia Tech, USC, CMU, WUSTL, Emory, Carleton, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna, Barnard, Davidson, Grinnell…
Agree with this, but I'd put UVA and NYU in Tier 3.
Anonymous
04/23/2024 02:37
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Let me end this. Tied for 1 are UVA and Northeastern. 2. Chicago. 3. Northwestern. 4. Wherever GDS kids go if not Harvard. Then everything else.
Anonymous
04/23/2024 02:27
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
One more; I did the work for you all by finding other junkie posts about this:
If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:
1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW
report
If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:
1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW
report
Anonymous
04/23/2024 02:24
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
More:
1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago
2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna
3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford
1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago
2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna
3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford
Anonymous
04/23/2024 02:22
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Here was another one; Have at it:
Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech
2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley
3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson
Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.
Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech
2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley
3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson
Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.
Anonymous
04/23/2024 02:19
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Here is a tier ranking from another thread a little while back.
Tier 1 - HPSM (tops academically at everything, no special recruitment tactics needed)
Tier 2 - Caltech, UPenn, Duke, Yale, Columbia (great academically at vast majority of things, highly desirable but still employ some special recruitment tactics to compete with Tier 1)
Tier 3 - Brown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Rice, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, UMich, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Harvey Mudd, Olin College of Engineering (great academically at many things, slightly less desirable than previous tiers and slightly worse undergrad outcomes)
Tier 4 - UVA, NYU, UNC, Georgia Tech, USC, CMU, WUSTL, Emory, Carleton, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna, Barnard, Davidson, Grinnell…
Tier 1 - HPSM (tops academically at everything, no special recruitment tactics needed)
Tier 2 - Caltech, UPenn, Duke, Yale, Columbia (great academically at vast majority of things, highly desirable but still employ some special recruitment tactics to compete with Tier 1)
Tier 3 - Brown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Rice, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, UMich, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Harvey Mudd, Olin College of Engineering (great academically at many things, slightly less desirable than previous tiers and slightly worse undergrad outcomes)
Tier 4 - UVA, NYU, UNC, Georgia Tech, USC, CMU, WUSTL, Emory, Carleton, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna, Barnard, Davidson, Grinnell…
Anonymous
04/23/2024 01:05
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Anonymous wrote:Overall, Penn is still one level below HYPSM.
Try two levels below. It also gets another half notch below in my book considering it essentially shares a name with Penn State.
Anonymous
04/23/2024 01:02
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Anonymous wrote:My take:
HYPSM
Caltech Columbia Penn
Chicago Duke Northwestern
Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins
Amherst Williams Swarthmore
Berkeley
minus berkeley
Anonymous
04/23/2024 00:27
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Pomona belongs with AWS too
Anonymous
04/23/2024 00:24
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Anonymous wrote:My take:
HYPSM
Caltech Columbia Penn
Chicago Duke Northwestern
Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins
Amherst Williams Swarthmore
Berkeley
You've been drinking the UChicago undergrad juice.
Anonymous
04/22/2024 22:46
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
My take:
HYPSM
Caltech Columbia Penn
Chicago Duke Northwestern
Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins
Amherst Williams Swarthmore
Berkeley
HYPSM
Caltech Columbia Penn
Chicago Duke Northwestern
Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins
Amherst Williams Swarthmore
Berkeley
Anonymous
04/22/2024 19:44
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ivy League + Chicago, MIT, Stanford, Northwestern, DUKE, Hopkins, Caltech.
+ Berkeley
For CS Berkley, MIT and Stanford would top the list. The other schools, not so much.
And Carnegie Mellon.
Carnegie Mellon, MIT, Stanford and Berkeley have long held a 4-way tie for #1 in Computer Science.
Anonymous
04/22/2024 19:24
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t consider Yale to be elite anymore.
Harvard, Princeton, Penn, MIT, and Stanford. Top 5.
Interesting, maybe. Penn has the edge in some areas. But Yale still elite.
Splitting hairs to call one better.
The only thing elite about Penn is Wharton but Yale is overall elite.
No dog in this fight. My kids went to Columbia and Cornell. But Ivy league kids would generally agree with this.
You can't represent the general Ivy kids.
^Ditto. HYP grads not exactly crossing paths with CCBP grads unless they're looking for a chiropractor or talking to their kid's middle school geography teacher.
Penn grads are too wealthy to care about any other ivies.
Anonymous
04/22/2024 19:23
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t consider Yale to be elite anymore.
Harvard, Princeton, Penn, MIT, and Stanford. Top 5.
Interesting, maybe. Penn has the edge in some areas. But Yale still elite.
Splitting hairs to call one better.
The only thing elite about Penn is Wharton but Yale is overall elite.
No dog in this fight. My kids went to Columbia and Cornell. But Ivy league kids would generally agree with this.
You can't represent the general Ivy kids.
^Ditto. HYP grads not exactly crossing paths with CCBP grads unless they're looking for a chiropractor or talking to their kid's middle school geography teacher.
People of HYP grads should be ashamed to having you as one of them if you are indeed one.
Anonymous
04/22/2024 19:17
Subject: Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t consider Yale to be elite anymore.
Harvard, Princeton, Penn, MIT, and Stanford. Top 5.
Interesting, maybe. Penn has the edge in some areas. But Yale still elite.
Splitting hairs to call one better.
The only thing elite about Penn is Wharton but Yale is overall elite.
No dog in this fight. My kids went to Columbia and Cornell. But Ivy league kids would generally agree with this.
You can't represent the general Ivy kids.
^Ditto. HYP grads not exactly crossing paths with CCBP grads unless they're looking for a chiropractor or talking to their kid's middle school geography teacher.