Anonymous wrote:Exactly how would hair dye help a black 6’1 200 lb ex football player with a distinct gait, who’s face was plastered all over America, escape detection?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He died before he was able to find the real killer!
I’ve always believed the real killer was his son from his first wife. Jason was a chef , had some sort of rage/bipolar disorder and a restraining order for wanting to stab an ex gf. Huge red flags there. OJ apparently hated blood and suffered from arthritis. An arthritic man stabbing over and over two adults including a karate trained Ron never tracked for me and the closeness his kids have to him also confirms my suspicions. The oldest boy was crazy
But yet it was OJs blood at the scene and the victims’ blood was in OJs car and on clothing found in his bedroom. And oh wait, OJ was insanely possessive and had a history of beating Nicole, but sure it was Jason.
The blood on the scene is controversial because his defense was able to note that OJ was getting blood drawn while he was in jail to aid the investigation. The defense was able to use Mark Fuhrmans racism and LAPD’s past history of planting blood on the scene for black suspects to be able to get OJ acquitted. So much focus was on the glove but it was really the Fuhrmann comments and his history of evidence planting that really ruined the case . The entire prosecution says they knew things were over after that because the judge was not happy and neither were the jurors about Furhman
Innocent people don't flee the scene with their passport, cash, a gun, and hair dye in their car.
Exactly how would hair dye help a black 6’1 200 lb ex football player with a distinct gait, who’s face was plastered all over America, escape detection?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He died before he was able to find the real killer!
I’ve always believed the real killer was his son from his first wife. Jason was a chef , had some sort of rage/bipolar disorder and a restraining order for wanting to stab an ex gf. Huge red flags there. OJ apparently hated blood and suffered from arthritis. An arthritic man stabbing over and over two adults including a karate trained Ron never tracked for me and the closeness his kids have to him also confirms my suspicions. The oldest boy was crazy
But yet it was OJs blood at the scene and the victims’ blood was in OJs car and on clothing found in his bedroom. And oh wait, OJ was insanely possessive and had a history of beating Nicole, but sure it was Jason.
The blood on the scene is controversial because his defense was able to note that OJ was getting blood drawn while he was in jail to aid the investigation. The defense was able to use Mark Fuhrmans racism and LAPD’s past history of planting blood on the scene for black suspects to be able to get OJ acquitted. So much focus was on the glove but it was really the Fuhrmann comments and his history of evidence planting that really ruined the case . The entire prosecution says they knew things were over after that because the judge was not happy and neither were the jurors about Furhman
Innocent people don't flee the scene with their passport, cash, a gun, and hair dye in their car.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He died before he was able to find the real killer!
I’ve always believed the real killer was his son from his first wife. Jason was a chef , had some sort of rage/bipolar disorder and a restraining order for wanting to stab an ex gf. Huge red flags there. OJ apparently hated blood and suffered from arthritis. An arthritic man stabbing over and over two adults including a karate trained Ron never tracked for me and the closeness his kids have to him also confirms my suspicions. The oldest boy was crazy
But yet it was OJs blood at the scene and the victims’ blood was in OJs car and on clothing found in his bedroom. And oh wait, OJ was insanely possessive and had a history of beating Nicole, but sure it was Jason.
The blood on the scene is controversial because his defense was able to note that OJ was getting blood drawn while he was in jail to aid the investigation. The defense was able to use Mark Fuhrmans racism and LAPD’s past history of planting blood on the scene for black suspects to be able to get OJ acquitted. So much focus was on the glove but it was really the Fuhrmann comments and his history of evidence planting that really ruined the case . The entire prosecution says they knew things were over after that because the judge was not happy and neither were the jurors about Furhman
To my mind this is one of the three real tragedies of this whole situation:
1) that OJ, who I think had some real talents and charm, managed to grow up in a way where he had a lot of unresolved anger/rage issues….he sublimated it through football, but never dealt with whatever demons he had. This is true of so many men from rough backgrounds or neighborhoods and it’s a tragedy each time.
2) That Nicole didn’t have the family support or self-esteem to choose a different path, and kept getting pulled back to him even after he beat her terribly, and all their fancy friends and the police turned a blind eye because he was rich and famous
3) That the LAPD allowed racist liars to so infect the department that the jurors, and much of the country, just could not trust the evidence and ended up disliking the LAPD even more than they did OJ.
It just highlights three of the saddest, most problematic parts of our country’s race, gender and class dynamics. It’s incredibly sad on so many levels.
I just want to take issue with the bolded - out of a post I agree with nearly entirely, I do take issue with that sentence because it stereotypes domestic abusers/tyrants as largely being from poor backgrounds. That just isn't true. Domestic abuse crosses all SES and is just as prevalent across them, but it is just not as often arrested and prosecuted in the middle and upper classes as it is among the poor.
Nicole & OJ's story was the perfect example of that phenomenon, and there was a country filled with middle class and UMC battered wives and girlfriends who saw themselves in Nicole and for once didn't turn away. But usually, we turn away or minimize and that is why domestic abuse never goes away - because boys across SES all over this country have that model of 'manhood' as their primary experience of being male and how to treat women, and the behavior and cycle of abuse perpetuates.
This tribute to Nicole Brown is one of the best things ever written about the case - it says a lot about domestic violence in America, and sadly, everything in this essay is still true and relevant today: In Memory of Nicole Brown Simpson
I don’t think the PP was saying most abusers have traumatic backgrounds. I think they were saying that many men who come from rough backgrounds suppress their issues until they bubble up in unhealthy ways. It’s a problem with men being taught to deal with things internally.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He died before he was able to find the real killer!
I’ve always believed the real killer was his son from his first wife. Jason was a chef , had some sort of rage/bipolar disorder and a restraining order for wanting to stab an ex gf. Huge red flags there. OJ apparently hated blood and suffered from arthritis. An arthritic man stabbing over and over two adults including a karate trained Ron never tracked for me and the closeness his kids have to him also confirms my suspicions. The oldest boy was crazy
But yet it was OJs blood at the scene and the victims’ blood was in OJs car and on clothing found in his bedroom. And oh wait, OJ was insanely possessive and had a history of beating Nicole, but sure it was Jason.
The blood on the scene is controversial because his defense was able to note that OJ was getting blood drawn while he was in jail to aid the investigation. The defense was able to use Mark Fuhrmans racism and LAPD’s past history of planting blood on the scene for black suspects to be able to get OJ acquitted. So much focus was on the glove but it was really the Fuhrmann comments and his history of evidence planting that really ruined the case . The entire prosecution says they knew things were over after that because the judge was not happy and neither were the jurors about Furhman
To my mind this is one of the three real tragedies of this whole situation:
1) that OJ, who I think had some real talents and charm, managed to grow up in a way where he had a lot of unresolved anger/rage issues….he sublimated it through football, but never dealt with whatever demons he had. This is true of so many men from rough backgrounds or neighborhoods and it’s a tragedy each time.
2) That Nicole didn’t have the family support or self-esteem to choose a different path, and kept getting pulled back to him even after he beat her terribly, and all their fancy friends and the police turned a blind eye because he was rich and famous
3) That the LAPD allowed racist liars to so infect the department that the jurors, and much of the country, just could not trust the evidence and ended up disliking the LAPD even more than they did OJ.
It just highlights three of the saddest, most problematic parts of our country’s race, gender and class dynamics. It’s incredibly sad on so many levels.
I just want to take issue with the bolded - out of a post I agree with nearly entirely, I do take issue with that sentence because it stereotypes domestic abusers/tyrants as largely being from poor backgrounds. That just isn't true. Domestic abuse crosses all SES and is just as prevalent across them, but it is just not as often arrested and prosecuted in the middle and upper classes as it is among the poor.
Nicole & OJ's story was the perfect example of that phenomenon, and there was a country filled with middle class and UMC battered wives and girlfriends who saw themselves in Nicole and for once didn't turn away. But usually, we turn away or minimize and that is why domestic abuse never goes away - because boys across SES all over this country have that model of 'manhood' as their primary experience of being male and how to treat women, and the behavior and cycle of abuse perpetuates.
This tribute to Nicole Brown is one of the best things ever written about the case - it says a lot about domestic violence in America, and sadly, everything in this essay is still true and relevant today: In Memory of Nicole Brown Simpson
I don’t think the PP was saying most abusers have traumatic backgrounds. I think they were saying that many men who come from rough backgrounds suppress their issues until they bubble up in unhealthy ways. It’s a problem with men being taught to deal with things internally.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He died before he was able to find the real killer!
I’ve always believed the real killer was his son from his first wife. Jason was a chef , had some sort of rage/bipolar disorder and a restraining order for wanting to stab an ex gf. Huge red flags there. OJ apparently hated blood and suffered from arthritis. An arthritic man stabbing over and over two adults including a karate trained Ron never tracked for me and the closeness his kids have to him also confirms my suspicions. The oldest boy was crazy
But yet it was OJs blood at the scene and the victims’ blood was in OJs car and on clothing found in his bedroom. And oh wait, OJ was insanely possessive and had a history of beating Nicole, but sure it was Jason.
The blood on the scene is controversial because his defense was able to note that OJ was getting blood drawn while he was in jail to aid the investigation. The defense was able to use Mark Fuhrmans racism and LAPD’s past history of planting blood on the scene for black suspects to be able to get OJ acquitted. So much focus was on the glove but it was really the Fuhrmann comments and his history of evidence planting that really ruined the case . The entire prosecution says they knew things were over after that because the judge was not happy and neither were the jurors about Furhman
To my mind this is one of the three real tragedies of this whole situation:
1) that OJ, who I think had some real talents and charm, managed to grow up in a way where he had a lot of unresolved anger/rage issues….he sublimated it through football, but never dealt with whatever demons he had. This is true of so many men from rough backgrounds or neighborhoods and it’s a tragedy each time.
2) That Nicole didn’t have the family support or self-esteem to choose a different path, and kept getting pulled back to him even after he beat her terribly, and all their fancy friends and the police turned a blind eye because he was rich and famous
3) That the LAPD allowed racist liars to so infect the department that the jurors, and much of the country, just could not trust the evidence and ended up disliking the LAPD even more than they did OJ.
It just highlights three of the saddest, most problematic parts of our country’s race, gender and class dynamics. It’s incredibly sad on so many levels.
I just want to take issue with the bolded - out of a post I agree with nearly entirely, I do take issue with that sentence because it stereotypes domestic abusers/tyrants as largely being from poor backgrounds. That just isn't true. Domestic abuse crosses all SES and is just as prevalent across them, but it is just not as often arrested and prosecuted in the middle and upper classes as it is among the poor.
Nicole & OJ's story was the perfect example of that phenomenon, and there was a country filled with middle class and UMC battered wives and girlfriends who saw themselves in Nicole and for once didn't turn away. But usually, we turn away or minimize and that is why domestic abuse never goes away - because boys across SES all over this country have that model of 'manhood' as their primary experience of being male and how to treat women, and the behavior and cycle of abuse perpetuates.
This tribute to Nicole Brown is one of the best things ever written about the case - it says a lot about domestic violence in America, and sadly, everything in this essay is still true and relevant today: In Memory of Nicole Brown Simpson
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He died before he was able to find the real killer!
I’ve always believed the real killer was his son from his first wife. Jason was a chef , had some sort of rage/bipolar disorder and a restraining order for wanting to stab an ex gf. Huge red flags there. OJ apparently hated blood and suffered from arthritis. An arthritic man stabbing over and over two adults including a karate trained Ron never tracked for me and the closeness his kids have to him also confirms my suspicions. The oldest boy was crazy
But yet it was OJs blood at the scene and the victims’ blood was in OJs car and on clothing found in his bedroom. And oh wait, OJ was insanely possessive and had a history of beating Nicole, but sure it was Jason.
The blood on the scene is controversial because his defense was able to note that OJ was getting blood drawn while he was in jail to aid the investigation. The defense was able to use Mark Fuhrmans racism and LAPD’s past history of planting blood on the scene for black suspects to be able to get OJ acquitted. So much focus was on the glove but it was really the Fuhrmann comments and his history of evidence planting that really ruined the case . The entire prosecution says they knew things were over after that because the judge was not happy and neither were the jurors about Furhman
To my mind this is one of the three real tragedies of this whole situation:
1) that OJ, who I think had some real talents and charm, managed to grow up in a way where he had a lot of unresolved anger/rage issues….he sublimated it through football, but never dealt with whatever demons he had. This is true of so many men from rough backgrounds or neighborhoods and it’s a tragedy each time.
2) That Nicole didn’t have the family support or self-esteem to choose a different path, and kept getting pulled back to him even after he beat her terribly, and all their fancy friends and the police turned a blind eye because he was rich and famous
3) That the LAPD allowed racist liars to so infect the department that the jurors, and much of the country, just could not trust the evidence and ended up disliking the LAPD even more than they did OJ.
It just highlights three of the saddest, most problematic parts of our country’s race, gender and class dynamics. It’s incredibly sad on so many levels.
I just want to take issue with the bolded - out of a post I agree with nearly entirely, I do take issue with that sentence because it stereotypes domestic abusers/tyrants as largely being from poor backgrounds. That just isn't true. Domestic abuse crosses all SES and is just as prevalent across them, but it is just not as often arrested and prosecuted in the middle and upper classes as it is among the poor.
Nicole & OJ's story was the perfect example of that phenomenon, and there was a country filled with middle class and UMC battered wives and girlfriends who saw themselves in Nicole and for once didn't turn away. But usually, we turn away or minimize and that is why domestic abuse never goes away - because boys across SES all over this country have that model of 'manhood' as their primary experience of being male and how to treat women, and the behavior and cycle of abuse perpetuates.
This tribute to Nicole Brown is one of the best things ever written about the case - it says a lot about domestic violence in America, and sadly, everything in this essay is still true and relevant today: In Memory of Nicole Brown Simpson
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We also have OJ to thank for the Kardashians. That’s his second biggest crime.
What do you mean?
One of OJ's defense attys was the Kardashian's father (who is now deceased).
Actually, not really part of the legal team that made decisions. Kardashian was a friend of OJ's who had gone to law school but was not practicing law at the time. In order to keep whatever kardashian knew confidential, he became part of the "legal team" for client-attorney privilege. Facts.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He died before he was able to find the real killer!
I’ve always believed the real killer was his son from his first wife. Jason was a chef , had some sort of rage/bipolar disorder and a restraining order for wanting to stab an ex gf. Huge red flags there. OJ apparently hated blood and suffered from arthritis. An arthritic man stabbing over and over two adults including a karate trained Ron never tracked for me and the closeness his kids have to him also confirms my suspicions. The oldest boy was crazy
But yet it was OJs blood at the scene and the victims’ blood was in OJs car and on clothing found in his bedroom. And oh wait, OJ was insanely possessive and had a history of beating Nicole, but sure it was Jason.
The blood on the scene is controversial because his defense was able to note that OJ was getting blood drawn while he was in jail to aid the investigation. The defense was able to use Mark Fuhrmans racism and LAPD’s past history of planting blood on the scene for black suspects to be able to get OJ acquitted. So much focus was on the glove but it was really the Fuhrmann comments and his history of evidence planting that really ruined the case . The entire prosecution says they knew things were over after that because the judge was not happy and neither were the jurors about Furhman
To my mind this is one of the three real tragedies of this whole situation:
1) that OJ, who I think had some real talents and charm, managed to grow up in a way where he had a lot of unresolved anger/rage issues….he sublimated it through football, but never dealt with whatever demons he had. This is true of so many men from rough backgrounds or neighborhoods and it’s a tragedy each time.
2) That Nicole didn’t have the family support or self-esteem to choose a different path, and kept getting pulled back to him even after he beat her terribly, and all their fancy friends and the police turned a blind eye because he was rich and famous
3) That the LAPD allowed racist liars to so infect the department that the jurors, and much of the country, just could not trust the evidence and ended up disliking the LAPD even more than they did OJ.
It just highlights three of the saddest, most problematic parts of our country’s race, gender and class dynamics. It’s incredibly sad on so many levels.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He died before he was able to find the real killer!
I’ve always believed the real killer was his son from his first wife. Jason was a chef , had some sort of rage/bipolar disorder and a restraining order for wanting to stab an ex gf. Huge red flags there. OJ apparently hated blood and suffered from arthritis. An arthritic man stabbing over and over two adults including a karate trained Ron never tracked for me and the closeness his kids have to him also confirms my suspicions. The oldest boy was crazy
But yet it was OJs blood at the scene and the victims’ blood was in OJs car and on clothing found in his bedroom. And oh wait, OJ was insanely possessive and had a history of beating Nicole, but sure it was Jason.
The blood on the scene is controversial because his defense was able to note that OJ was getting blood drawn while he was in jail to aid the investigation. The defense was able to use Mark Fuhrmans racism and LAPD’s past history of planting blood on the scene for black suspects to be able to get OJ acquitted. So much focus was on the glove but it was really the Fuhrmann comments and his history of evidence planting that really ruined the case . The entire prosecution says they knew things were over after that because the judge was not happy and neither were the jurors about Furhman
To my mind this is one of the three real tragedies of this whole situation:
1) that OJ, who I think had some real talents and charm, managed to grow up in a way where he had a lot of unresolved anger/rage issues….he sublimated it through football, but never dealt with whatever demons he had. This is true of so many men from rough backgrounds or neighborhoods and it’s a tragedy each time.
2) That Nicole didn’t have the family support or self-esteem to choose a different path, and kept getting pulled back to him even after he beat her terribly, and all their fancy friends and the police turned a blind eye because he was rich and famous
3) That the LAPD allowed racist liars to so infect the department that the jurors, and much of the country, just could not trust the evidence and ended up disliking the LAPD even more than they did OJ.
It just highlights three of the saddest, most problematic parts of our country’s race, gender and class dynamics. It’s incredibly sad on so many levels.
What you have written here has been the most insightful response I have seen on this thread.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He died before he was able to find the real killer!
I’ve always believed the real killer was his son from his first wife. Jason was a chef , had some sort of rage/bipolar disorder and a restraining order for wanting to stab an ex gf. Huge red flags there. OJ apparently hated blood and suffered from arthritis. An arthritic man stabbing over and over two adults including a karate trained Ron never tracked for me and the closeness his kids have to him also confirms my suspicions. The oldest boy was crazy
But yet it was OJs blood at the scene and the victims’ blood was in OJs car and on clothing found in his bedroom. And oh wait, OJ was insanely possessive and had a history of beating Nicole, but sure it was Jason.
The blood on the scene is controversial because his defense was able to note that OJ was getting blood drawn while he was in jail to aid the investigation. The defense was able to use Mark Fuhrmans racism and LAPD’s past history of planting blood on the scene for black suspects to be able to get OJ acquitted. So much focus was on the glove but it was really the Fuhrmann comments and his history of evidence planting that really ruined the case . The entire prosecution says they knew things were over after that because the judge was not happy and neither were the jurors about Furhman
To my mind this is one of the three real tragedies of this whole situation:
1) that OJ, who I think had some real talents and charm, managed to grow up in a way where he had a lot of unresolved anger/rage issues….he sublimated it through football, but never dealt with whatever demons he had. This is true of so many men from rough backgrounds or neighborhoods and it’s a tragedy each time.
2) That Nicole didn’t have the family support or self-esteem to choose a different path, and kept getting pulled back to him even after he beat her terribly, and all their fancy friends and the police turned a blind eye because he was rich and famous
3) That the LAPD allowed racist liars to so infect the department that the jurors, and much of the country, just could not trust the evidence and ended up disliking the LAPD even more than they did OJ.
It just highlights three of the saddest, most problematic parts of our country’s race, gender and class dynamics. It’s incredibly sad on so many levels.