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Anonymous wrote:About how many TJ kids each year end up taking math beyond MVC and linear algebra? Anyone have a guess how the numbers will change for class of 2025 and beyond?

The numbers that I vaguley remember seeing from last years admitted class had about 1/4 of the class only having Algebra 1 H and a good number having taken Algebra 2. I would guess that 3/4 of the students at TJ will be able to take MVC and Linear Algebra based on the math that they had when they entered.

So just a handful of students will be taking the math that is after MVC/LA — differential equations? MVC/LA senior year is probably the most common senior year math for TJ kids?

Yes. About half the class does this. The rest are split between higher and lower.

This is surprising to me as that is then the same math being taken by kids at other high schools— always thought kids at TJ and point of TJ was accelerated math (and science). So strange to me more kids at TJ not on path higher than what other top kids at other AP schools taking.

The same math is taught at TJ, but with greater depth and graded more rigorously. The top third of the class progresses beyond Multivariable, the middle third typically peaks at BC or Multivariable, and the bottom of the class, particularly in recent years, continues to struggle, starting with Math 1 and finishing with much lower math than kids in base schools. If math doesn't come naturally, there's no point doing TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:About how many TJ kids each year end up taking math beyond MVC and linear algebra? Anyone have a guess how the numbers will change for class of 2025 and beyond?

The numbers that I vaguley remember seeing from last years admitted class had about 1/4 of the class only having Algebra 1 H and a good number having taken Algebra 2. I would guess that 3/4 of the students at TJ will be able to take MVC and Linear Algebra based on the math that they had when they entered.

So just a handful of students will be taking the math that is after MVC/LA — differential equations? MVC/LA senior year is probably the most common senior year math for TJ kids?

Yes. About half the class does this. The rest are split between higher and lower.

This is surprising to me as that is then the same math being taken by kids at other high schools— always thought kids at TJ and point of TJ was accelerated math (and science). So strange to me more kids at TJ not on path higher than what other top kids at other AP schools taking.

I always put TJ as special because of the science classes and labs that are not available at other schools. You do need to be ahead in math in order to take some of those classes, which is why being on a path to get to the post calculus math classes is important. It opens the specialized science classes in sophmore or junior year.

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Anonymous wrote:About how many TJ kids each year end up taking math beyond MVC and linear algebra? Anyone have a guess how the numbers will change for class of 2025 and beyond?

The numbers that I vaguley remember seeing from last years admitted class had about 1/4 of the class only having Algebra 1 H and a good number having taken Algebra 2. I would guess that 3/4 of the students at TJ will be able to take MVC and Linear Algebra based on the math that they had when they entered.

So just a handful of students will be taking the math that is after MVC/LA — differential equations? MVC/LA senior year is probably the most common senior year math for TJ kids?

Yes. About half the class does this. The rest are split between higher and lower.

This is surprising to me as that is then the same math being taken by kids at other high schools— always thought kids at TJ and point of TJ was accelerated math (and science). So strange to me more kids at TJ not on path higher than what other top kids at other AP schools taking.

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Anonymous wrote:About how many TJ kids each year end up taking math beyond MVC and linear algebra? Anyone have a guess how the numbers will change for class of 2025 and beyond?

The numbers that I vaguley remember seeing from last years admitted class had about 1/4 of the class only having Algebra 1 H and a good number having taken Algebra 2. I would guess that 3/4 of the students at TJ will be able to take MVC and Linear Algebra based on the math that they had when they entered.

So just a handful of students will be taking the math that is after MVC/LA — differential equations? MVC/LA senior year is probably the most common senior year math for TJ kids?

Yes. About half the class does this. The rest are split between higher and lower.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens if Math 1 freshman student gets to Calc AB in senior year and fails? do they get to retake it, when and where - at TJ or base school?

I believe if they fail it, they get a diploma from FCPS (assuming they meet the other graduation requirements) but not a TJ diploma. Math can’t be taken P/F

Glad to know they have the option to get atleast a FCPS diploma

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Anonymous wrote:About how many TJ kids each year end up taking math beyond MVC and linear algebra? Anyone have a guess how the numbers will change for class of 2025 and beyond?

The numbers that I vaguley remember seeing from last years admitted class had about 1/4 of the class only having Algebra 1 H and a good number having taken Algebra 2. I would guess that 3/4 of the students at TJ will be able to take MVC and Linear Algebra based on the math that they had when they entered.

So just a handful of students will be taking the math that is after MVC/LA — differential equations? MVC/LA senior year is probably the most common senior year math for TJ kids?

Anonymous wrote:About how many TJ kids each year end up taking math beyond MVC and linear algebra? Anyone have a guess how the numbers will change for class of 2025 and beyond?

The numbers that I vaguley remember seeing from last years admitted class had about 1/4 of the class only having Algebra 1 H and a good number having taken Algebra 2. I would guess that 3/4 of the students at TJ will be able to take MVC and Linear Algebra based on the math that they had when they entered.

About how many TJ kids each year end up taking math beyond MVC and linear algebra? Anyone have a guess how the numbers will change for class of 2025 and beyond?

Anonymous wrote:Also, not all math 1 kids take Calc AB. Some of them go to Calc BC senior year. Those kids often excel because they have learned TJ style hard core math from the beginning. The fact that someone comes in having taken a particular math course doesn’t guarantee success. How deep did they go in geometry? Can they truly problem solve or just regurgitate? Some kids come in with algebra II under their belt and they still struggle in TJ math 4/5.

that sounds like an equity packman selling sea shells by the sea

Also, not all math 1 kids take Calc AB. Some of them go to Calc BC senior year. Those kids often excel because they have learned TJ style hard core math from the beginning. The fact that someone comes in having taken a particular math course doesn’t guarantee success. How deep did they go in geometry? Can they truly problem solve or just regurgitate? Some kids come in with algebra II under their belt and they still struggle in TJ math 4/5.

Anonymous wrote:What happens if Math 1 freshman student gets to Calc AB in senior year and fails? do they get to retake it, when and where - at TJ or base school?

I believe if they fail it, they get a diploma from FCPS (assuming they meet the other graduation requirements) but not a TJ diploma. Math can’t be taken P/F

Not just Calc AB, with the way matters have evolved in the last few years, one wouldn't be surprised if entire math path is allowed to be taken for pass/fail.

Also, can Calc AB be taken pass/fail and still graduate?

What happens if Math 1 freshman student gets to Calc AB in senior year and fails? do they get to retake it, when and where - at TJ or base school?

Oh, and one more thing re: your point about Geometry over summer... I think this was evident about 10 years ago when the admission rate for "Geometry in 8th" students was about 25-30%, and the admission rate for those beyond Geometry was about 67%. That incentivized families to try to accelerate their student to take Algebra in 6th (or Geometry in the 7th->8th summer).