Anonymous
05/01/2024 15:33
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only way Trump wins is if he picks a respected, pre-MAGA GOP without extreme speech or values. Not sure who that would even be, and of course he'd not want them as VP.
He shouldn't win even if he had Jesus Christ as his running mate but he just might win considering the weakness of his opponent.
The opposite is true actually. Trump's base is shrinking. He can't rally more extremists. He could appeal to more centrists and independents turned off by Biden with the right VP.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 15:27
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:The only way Trump wins is if he picks a respected, pre-MAGA GOP without extreme speech or values. Not sure who that would even be, and of course he'd not want them as VP.
He shouldn't win even if he had Jesus Christ as his running mate but he just might win considering the weakness of his opponent.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 15:23
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
The only way Trump wins is if he picks a respected, pre-MAGA GOP without extreme speech or values. Not sure who that would even be, and of course he'd not want them as VP.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 15:22
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dems are outperforming Biden's 2020 result because of Dobbs.
Biden and the Dems will continue to outperform 2020 because of abortion.
so true. the number of 2020 voters that are going to now switch to trump after he destroyed Roe and instigated a coup is probably zero.
How do you explain all the polls showing solid Turnip leads in the swing states and Turnip leading Biden where at this point in 2020 Biden led Turnip by 6.3% average?
Mildly curious.
Why are you paying attention to these polls that always seem to be wrong? How do you explain all the actual votes in actual elections with actual voters? No red wave, every single abortion abortion referendum sailing to victory even in conservative states, dems out performing polls in special elections.
mildly curious.
Trump outperformed the polling data from these same polling sources in both 2016 and 2020. Your assumption that everything is fine will help to get the awful orange guy elected for a second term. Biden is a terrible candidate to lead our country until 2029 and his insistence on seeking a second term is giving Trump a chance. The truth hurts but it is what it is.
There a was a 100 page thread about this already, but who is this mythical democrat that outpolls Trump? And what do you do with the sitting Vice President in that context?
There is nothing we can do at this point. We're screwed.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 15:19
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dems are outperforming Biden's 2020 result because of Dobbs.
Biden and the Dems will continue to outperform 2020 because of abortion.
so true. the number of 2020 voters that are going to now switch to trump after he destroyed Roe and instigated a coup is probably zero.
How do you explain all the polls showing solid Turnip leads in the swing states and Turnip leading Biden where at this point in 2020 Biden led Turnip by 6.3% average?
Mildly curious.
Why are you paying attention to these polls that always seem to be wrong? How do you explain all the actual votes in actual elections with actual voters? No red wave, every single abortion abortion referendum sailing to victory even in conservative states, dems out performing polls in special elections.
mildly curious.
Trump outperformed the polling data from these same polling sources in both 2016 and 2020. Your assumption that everything is fine will help to get the awful orange guy elected for a second term. Biden is a terrible candidate to lead our country until 2029 and his insistence on seeking a second term is giving Trump a chance. The truth hurts but it is what it is.
There a was a 100 page thread about this already, but who is this mythical democrat that outpolls Trump? And what do you do with the sitting Vice President in that context?
Anonymous
05/01/2024 15:18
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dems are outperforming Biden's 2020 result because of Dobbs.
Biden and the Dems will continue to outperform 2020 because of abortion.
so true. the number of 2020 voters that are going to now switch to trump after he destroyed Roe and instigated a coup is probably zero.
How do you explain all the polls showing solid Turnip leads in the swing states and Turnip leading Biden where at this point in 2020 Biden led Turnip by 6.3% average?
Mildly curious.
The polling is faulty and has been since pollsters really cannot get to people who mostly use cell phones and don't answer calls from unknown numbers. This has been the case for several cycles. Media should simply stop reporting polls, because they are just not accurate.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 15:12
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dems are outperforming Biden's 2020 result because of Dobbs.
Biden and the Dems will continue to outperform 2020 because of abortion.
so true. the number of 2020 voters that are going to now switch to trump after he destroyed Roe and instigated a coup is probably zero.
How do you explain all the polls showing solid Turnip leads in the swing states and Turnip leading Biden where at this point in 2020 Biden led Turnip by 6.3% average?
Mildly curious.
The polls are over-weighting Republicans and sampling according to past turn-out models for demographics.
The issue is that the people actually showing up to vote since the SC's Dobbs ruling are NOT the same as people who turned out to vote in 2020-2012 elections that underlie the turn-out models for poll sampling. 2022 saw some backlash for the GOP, but the backlash is getting worse now that the draconian laws have taken hold in the past year. For example, Florida's crazy strict 6 week abortion ban just went into effect - the backlash in Florida is just beginning. So what happens? Previous turn-out models that underlie poll sampling for Florida likely will not be right, since the Dobbs ruling brings out all sorts of non-voting individuals to actually come out and vote.
Yes, if we didn't have Biden's weaknesses weighing the party down, we'd have no problem destroying Trump and MAGA
He is so weak that he beat trump last time around. Trump seems to be the weakling if he lost to a candidate you rate so poorly.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 15:10
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dems are outperforming Biden's 2020 result because of Dobbs.
Biden and the Dems will continue to outperform 2020 because of abortion.
so true. the number of 2020 voters that are going to now switch to trump after he destroyed Roe and instigated a coup is probably zero.
How do you explain all the polls showing solid Turnip leads in the swing states and Turnip leading Biden where at this point in 2020 Biden led Turnip by 6.3% average?
Mildly curious.
The polls are over-weighting Republicans and sampling according to past turn-out models for demographics.
The issue is that the people actually showing up to vote since the SC's Dobbs ruling are NOT the same as people who turned out to vote in 2020-2012 elections that underlie the turn-out models for poll sampling. 2022 saw some backlash for the GOP, but the backlash is getting worse now that the draconian laws have taken hold in the past year. For example, Florida's crazy strict 6 week abortion ban just went into effect - the backlash in Florida is just beginning. So what happens? Previous turn-out models that underlie poll sampling for Florida likely will not be right, since the Dobbs ruling brings out all sorts of non-voting individuals to actually come out and vote.
Yes, if we didn't have Biden's weaknesses weighing the party down, we'd have no problem destroying Trump and MAGA
Anonymous
05/01/2024 15:08
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dems are outperforming Biden's 2020 result because of Dobbs.
Biden and the Dems will continue to outperform 2020 because of abortion.
so true. the number of 2020 voters that are going to now switch to trump after he destroyed Roe and instigated a coup is probably zero.
How do you explain all the polls showing solid Turnip leads in the swing states and Turnip leading Biden where at this point in 2020 Biden led Turnip by 6.3% average?
Mildly curious.
The polls are over-weighting Republicans and sampling according to past turn-out models for demographics.
The issue is that the people actually showing up to vote since the SC's Dobbs ruling are NOT the same as people who turned out to vote in 2020-2012 elections that underlie the turn-out models for poll sampling. 2022 saw some backlash for the GOP, but the backlash is getting worse now that the draconian laws have taken hold in the past year. For example, Florida's crazy strict 6 week abortion ban just went into effect - the backlash in Florida is just beginning. So what happens? Previous turn-out models that underlie poll sampling for Florida likely will not be right, since the Dobbs ruling brings out all sorts of non-voting individuals to actually come out and vote.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 15:04
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dems are outperforming Biden's 2020 result because of Dobbs.
Biden and the Dems will continue to outperform 2020 because of abortion.
so true. the number of 2020 voters that are going to now switch to trump after he destroyed Roe and instigated a coup is probably zero.
How do you explain all the polls showing solid Turnip leads in the swing states and Turnip leading Biden where at this point in 2020 Biden led Turnip by 6.3% average?
Mildly curious.
Why are you paying attention to these polls that always seem to be wrong? How do you explain all the actual votes in actual elections with actual voters? No red wave, every single abortion abortion referendum sailing to victory even in conservative states, dems out performing polls in special elections.
mildly curious.
Trump outperformed the polling data from these same polling sources in both 2016 and 2020. Your assumption that everything is fine will help to get the awful orange guy elected for a second term. Biden is a terrible candidate to lead our country until 2029 and his insistence on seeking a second term is giving Trump a chance. The truth hurts but it is what it is.
Well I guess polls are wrong in both directions all the time. They seem pretty useless.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 15:00
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dems are outperforming Biden's 2020 result because of Dobbs.
Biden and the Dems will continue to outperform 2020 because of abortion.
so true. the number of 2020 voters that are going to now switch to trump after he destroyed Roe and instigated a coup is probably zero.
How do you explain all the polls showing solid Turnip leads in the swing states and Turnip leading Biden where at this point in 2020 Biden led Turnip by 6.3% average?
Mildly curious.
Why are you paying attention to these polls that always seem to be wrong? How do you explain all the actual votes in actual elections with actual voters? No red wave, every single abortion abortion referendum sailing to victory even in conservative states, dems out performing polls in special elections.
mildly curious.
Trump outperformed the polling data from these same polling sources in both 2016 and 2020. Your assumption that everything is fine will help to get the awful orange guy elected for a second term. Biden is a terrible candidate to lead our country until 2029 and his insistence on seeking a second term is giving Trump a chance. The truth hurts but it is what it is.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 14:53
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Repug’s stance on bodily autonomy has completely destroyed their party. There is zero chance drumf or any other repug will be our next POTUS.
Women will secure our future.
Women will secure our future.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 14:50
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dems are outperforming Biden's 2020 result because of Dobbs.
Biden and the Dems will continue to outperform 2020 because of abortion.
so true. the number of 2020 voters that are going to now switch to trump after he destroyed Roe and instigated a coup is probably zero.
How do you explain all the polls showing solid Turnip leads in the swing states and Turnip leading Biden where at this point in 2020 Biden led Turnip by 6.3% average?
Mildly curious.
Why are you paying attention to these polls that always seem to be wrong? How do you explain all the actual votes in actual elections with actual voters? No red wave, every single abortion abortion referendum sailing to victory even in conservative states, dems out performing polls in special elections.
mildly curious.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 14:47
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dems are outperforming Biden's 2020 result because of Dobbs.
Biden and the Dems will continue to outperform 2020 because of abortion.
so true. the number of 2020 voters that are going to now switch to trump after he destroyed Roe and instigated a coup is probably zero.
How do you explain all the polls showing solid Turnip leads in the swing states and Turnip leading Biden where at this point in 2020 Biden led Turnip by 6.3% average?
Mildly curious.
Anonymous
05/01/2024 14:44
Subject: 2024 Election Thread
Anonymous wrote:Dems are outperforming Biden's 2020 result because of Dobbs.
Biden and the Dems will continue to outperform 2020 because of abortion.
so true. the number of 2020 voters that are going to now switch to trump after he destroyed Roe and instigated a coup is probably zero.