Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 22:58     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

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Anonymous wrote:But men are not the audience. She was picked because she was the youngest and prettiest. She is probably a nice lady but no charisma. I don’t think this was the right choice.



I don't think she's the prettiest at all. She looks like a typical plastic surgeried real housewife. She would look a million times better if she left her poor face alone and cut her hair, which makes her long, thin face look even longer. And maybe went with a less harsh blonde tone. She does look amazing in clothes though. Otherwise Faith, Edith, and Leslie are much prettier and more natural looking. I'm bummed one of them wasn't selected.


I think they had to consider the dating pool/location after the Gerry/Theresa moving issue: That ruled rural Faith out, which is too bad because it would have been more fun with her. And then Leslie I think was seen as too emotional and risky. Joan seems nice enough, but to me she is really difficult to look at, grotesque and masculine with the face lift and extreme thin body.



The location issue makes sense. I actually think the bigger issues is that both Leslie and Faith are a little too sensitive and fragile for the GB gig. Watching their responses to the Gerry breakup was painful, very similar in the degree of heartbreak that developed in response to such a short relationship. Although I'd prefer either of them, this is probably for the best. Joan seems to have a tougher core. I agree with a PP she's the least likely to get engaged though. And is a little dull.


A lot dull. And to the extent she tries to be contemporary and current, it just comes off as acting and uncomfortable. I hope Joan can find a way to embrace herself and let her freak flag fly.

I don’t think she has a freak flag. And I say that as someone who liked her a lot on the show; she seemed very nice and caring. But she seems proper. Can’t imagine her having a wild side.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 20:05     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But men are not the audience. She was picked because she was the youngest and prettiest. She is probably a nice lady but no charisma. I don’t think this was the right choice.



I don't think she's the prettiest at all. She looks like a typical plastic surgeried real housewife. She would look a million times better if she left her poor face alone and cut her hair, which makes her long, thin face look even longer. And maybe went with a less harsh blonde tone. She does look amazing in clothes though. Otherwise Faith, Edith, and Leslie are much prettier and more natural looking. I'm bummed one of them wasn't selected.


I think they had to consider the dating pool/location after the Gerry/Theresa moving issue: That ruled rural Faith out, which is too bad because it would have been more fun with her. And then Leslie I think was seen as too emotional and risky. Joan seems nice enough, but to me she is really difficult to look at, grotesque and masculine with the face lift and extreme thin body.



The location issue makes sense. I actually think the bigger issues is that both Leslie and Faith are a little too sensitive and fragile for the GB gig. Watching their responses to the Gerry breakup was painful, very similar in the degree of heartbreak that developed in response to such a short relationship. Although I'd prefer either of them, this is probably for the best. Joan seems to have a tougher core. I agree with a PP she's the least likely to get engaged though. And is a little dull.


A lot dull. And to the extent she tries to be contemporary and current, it just comes off as acting and uncomfortable. I hope Joan can find a way to embrace herself and let her freak flag fly.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 20:01     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

Anonymous wrote:Gerry was boring too (until his past came to light and then he was no longer boring but in all the wrong ways).

I don't think the producers are going for fantastic charisma in a bachelor or bachelorette. They're looking for the contestants to provide the drama.


Truth! The lead has become the un-important foundation, and the producers use the footage of the contestants (picking and choosing just 1% of all that they filmed) to "create" the image and story line that they want for each contestant. The "lead" is just there to give the contestants something to fight about or focus their energies on. So, I guess in that framework, Joan is as good as anyone else. She just needs to be pretty enough to catch the contestants' interest. The competition format of the show will take care of the the rest (i.e. creating an environment for drama).

Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 15:55     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But men are not the audience. She was picked because she was the youngest and prettiest. She is probably a nice lady but no charisma. I don’t think this was the right choice.



I don't think she's the prettiest at all. She looks like a typical plastic surgeried real housewife. She would look a million times better if she left her poor face alone and cut her hair, which makes her long, thin face look even longer. And maybe went with a less harsh blonde tone. She does look amazing in clothes though. Otherwise Faith, Edith, and Leslie are much prettier and more natural looking. I'm bummed one of them wasn't selected.


I think they had to consider the dating pool/location after the Gerry/Theresa moving issue: That ruled rural Faith out, which is too bad because it would have been more fun with her. And then Leslie I think was seen as too emotional and risky. Joan seems nice enough, but to me she is really difficult to look at, grotesque and masculine with the face lift and extreme thin body.



The location issue makes sense. I actually think the bigger issues is that both Leslie and Faith are a little too sensitive and fragile for the GB gig. Watching their responses to the Gerry breakup was painful, very similar in the degree of heartbreak that developed in response to such a short relationship. Although I'd prefer either of them, this is probably for the best. Joan seems to have a tougher core. I agree with a PP she's the least likely to get engaged though. And is a little dull.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 15:20     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But men are not the audience. She was picked because she was the youngest and prettiest. She is probably a nice lady but no charisma. I don’t think this was the right choice.



I don't think she's the prettiest at all. She looks like a typical plastic surgeried real housewife. She would look a million times better if she left her poor face alone and cut her hair, which makes her long, thin face look even longer. And maybe went with a less harsh blonde tone. She does look amazing in clothes though. Otherwise Faith, Edith, and Leslie are much prettier and more natural looking. I'm bummed one of them wasn't selected.


I think they had to consider the dating pool/location after the Gerry/Theresa moving issue: That ruled rural Faith out, which is too bad because it would have been more fun with her. And then Leslie I think was seen as too emotional and risky. Joan seems nice enough, but to me she is really difficult to look at, grotesque and masculine with the face lift and extreme thin body.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 14:51     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

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Anonymous wrote:I found her to be quite awkward on tv, with a tendency to make odd, over exaggerated facial expressions. I think she'll probably be more reserved and sensible than a Faith or Leslie (look how they fell for Gerry's malarkey), but how does that make for good tv? I'd peg her as the least likely in all the possibilities discussed to leave engaged.


It's the work. She's pulled too tight, tries to overcompensate with over-emoting then just looks odd.



The producers will work with her on this. Guarantee she'll look a hundred times better with their coaching, plus great makeup, styling, and lighting.





She already does look so much better in the promo. Or course she's filtered to oblivion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJpzd1EuATE

She's a little reserved and awkward for this, but I'll keep an open mind. Maybe she'll warm to it.

Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 13:28     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

Anonymous wrote:But men are not the audience. She was picked because she was the youngest and prettiest. She is probably a nice lady but no charisma. I don’t think this was the right choice.



I don't think she's the prettiest at all. She looks like a typical plastic surgeried real housewife. She would look a million times better if she left her poor face alone and cut her hair, which makes her long, thin face look even longer. And maybe went with a less harsh blonde tone. She does look amazing in clothes though. Otherwise Faith, Edith, and Leslie are much prettier and more natural looking. I'm bummed one of them wasn't selected.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 11:13     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

Anonymous wrote:But men are not the audience. She was picked because she was the youngest and prettiest. She is probably a nice lady but no charisma. I don’t think this was the right choice.


And because she has no baggage, with the "widow" narrative.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 10:01     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

But men are not the audience. She was picked because she was the youngest and prettiest. She is probably a nice lady but no charisma. I don’t think this was the right choice.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 07:19     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

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Anonymous wrote:I think that she looks disturbing with all the plastic surgery. I guess long blond hair and thin = attractive in TV world.


+1 men aren’t attentive and critical the way women are. They see thin+blonde=good.


True, and not just in the TV world. It happens IRL also.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 05:41     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

Anonymous wrote:I think that she looks disturbing with all the plastic surgery. I guess long blond hair and thin = attractive in TV world.


+1 men aren’t attentive and critical the way women are. They see thin+blonde=good.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 05:34     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

So Reality Steve got it wrong again.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2024 05:34     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

Anonymous wrote:Plot twist?: did Gerry get divorced so he can go for Joan?


What? Actually I think one factor was the desire to distance from Gerry. He ended up being such a letdown no one wanted the constant reminder that Leslie and Faith had been in love with him. Joan offers a fresh start and a squeaky clean profile.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2024 22:32     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

I think that she looks disturbing with all the plastic surgery. I guess long blond hair and thin = attractive in TV world.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2024 22:21     Subject: Golden Bachelorette

Anonymous wrote:Maybe if the stone-face was caused by botox, she can let it fade away and get some natural movement????

I agree that she is very statuesque and pretty for her age in pictures. But, in live action, she just didn't have much charisma. I do recall that her ONE memorable moment was her poem. She knocked that out of the park. But, the lack of facial expressions is going to be very hard on the audience. Maybe it's good for the show b/c she has the ultimate "poker face!"

I think we can conclude that the producers wanted to put the name/image of the Golden Bachelorette out there, and they wanted a very traditional "looker" to gin up more men who would be willing to "chase" her. The producers must be counting on men to think with their lower-brain. It's very clique -- which makes it perfectly "Bachelor."

I hope Joan is up to the task... it sounds exhausting.


Agree, she got enough blowback about the fillers and botox that she's probably toned them down.

I think the producers got burned by Gerry's past and they want someone squeaky-clean this time. They were probably worried Leslie had oodles of old boyfriends lining up to sell their stories.