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Anonymous wrote:They just move the bad ones from school to school, including this one.

Principals can be put on improvement plans, just as teachers can be. Start by documenting your concerns with the principal: email, meet in person, follow up with email. Rinse and repeat, escalate as needed.

I have a hard time believing anyone is going to put a principal on an improvement plan. Perhaps I’m wrong, but I just don’t see it happening. Our principal is HORRIBLE (at another APS elementary school) and I don’t think anyone cares.

Well, I’ll give you that. Nobody is able to figure out why she seems to be immune. But at least in theory, principal improvement plans are a thing. I imagine new/relatively new administrators are more vulnerable to them.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is a big example of the lie that North Arlington parents tell themselves and the district that they want walkable schools for environmental concerns or because they value actually walking. If that were true, there would be a car line so long kids couldn’t get to school on time.

Realistically I think anything beyond about a half mile for elementary school isn’t really walkable.

Agree!

That car line actually speaks to the fact that most parents are working parents who do not have time to wait until 9am to go to work and leisurely walk and instead save themselves ten minutes by driving their kids to school on their way to work. Sorry we can't all be stay at home parents.

Instead of dropping off via car at 8:59 you could walk and drop off at 8:35 then make it back home by 8:45. It’s a win-win.

NP here. I honestly didn’t care about her email about the start time, though it was odd of her to provide a false start time instead of just saying that the students should be in school by the earlier time to maximize learning time. Weird way to go about what she wanted to achieve. The bigger issue for the students is that the teacher morale is at a very low point due to lack of support and inaction on the part of school leadership, and that does directly impact students.

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Anonymous wrote:The principle’s communication makes it sound like 9 isn’t the start time despite APS saying it’s the start time.

More importantly, why the heck is she picking this totally stupid fight with a bunch of North Arlington families? It’s not like these kids are all strolling in at 9:15 smoking a joint and saying we are not here to learn!?!! We have been at Taylor for years, and this is just a non issue. I’ve never heard of this being an issue at any other nearby schools. It’s a made up stupid issue when there are real issues… kids needing to learn to read, learn to do math, challenging kids who are bored, etc.

Definitely, I have been wondering this too, maybe to deflect from these real issues at the school with students and guiding the teachers and staff to support the kids and their education. If she spends her time on a fight or stuff which is pretty trivial, I worry her focus is not on tackling the higher priority issues. If she is picking stupid fights with parents, hope it stays with parents and does not affect the kids and the school's teachers and staff.

Maybe she’d have more time to focus on real issues if parents weren’t so lazy or whining so much about getting their kid to school on time.

Tardiness affects accreditation.

Yeah but this is not an issue at any other N Arlington ES. So it appears that the “tardiness” issue is either very specific to all the lazy ASFS parents (highly doubtful) or it’s an imaginary issue by some sociopath warlord who is hellbent on FOLLOWING THE RULES TO THE MINUTE.

You sound a bit unhinged. I can't tell if there is one poster who is very irritated at the ASFS principal for this, or multiple. But of all the things to get worked up about, this just doesn't seem worth it. I have seen vague complaints in this thread unrelated to this tardiness issue, but no actual specifics.

There will always be things to complain about. The previous principal was uptight and strict as all get out.

There are few specifics to share in a public forum that wouldn't violate a number of federal and local privacy laws and regulations, even allusions that are anonymous. Those incident/s remain privileged information for the affected party/ies, some of which legally should remain that way, others the principal should or could notify class parents or the community but she has not in any of the appropriate instances where transparency is warranted.

As far as the vague complaints, community members have brought these to the principal (and AP's) attention. The principal responds both publicly and privately with defensive and repetitive, flawed circular arguments whether you are a teacher, staff, or parent/caregiver. When Principal Miller uses circular reasoning, she attempts to convince something untrue which in turn spreads false information, which is and continues to happen all school year.

Unfortunately, this circular reasoning can be persuasive if the community does not notice it. The ASFS community needs to think critically and ask questions. Morale among ASFS teachers and staff is low and the atmosphere within the school has become strained. Some of these are workplace issues that are directly relevant to Principal Miller's management and communication style, and other issues are safety concerns for ASFS students, all of which reflect poor leadership. These detrimental leadership habits have significant consequences for the school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is a big example of the lie that North Arlington parents tell themselves and the district that they want walkable schools for environmental concerns or because they value actually walking. If that were true, there would be a car line so long kids couldn’t get to school on time.

Realistically I think anything beyond about a half mile for elementary school isn’t really walkable.

Agree!

That car line actually speaks to the fact that most parents are working parents who do not have time to wait until 9am to go to work and leisurely walk and instead save themselves ten minutes by driving their kids to school on their way to work. Sorry we can't all be stay at home parents.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is a big example of the lie that North Arlington parents tell themselves and the district that they want walkable schools for environmental concerns or because they value actually walking. If that were true, there would be a car line so long kids couldn’t get to school on time.

Realistically I think anything beyond about a half mile for elementary school isn’t really walkable.

Agree!

Anonymous wrote:The principle’s communication makes it sound like 9 isn’t the start time despite APS saying it’s the start time.

More importantly, why the heck is she picking this totally stupid fight with a bunch of North Arlington families? It’s not like these kids are all strolling in at 9:15 smoking a joint and saying we are not here to learn!?!! We have been at Taylor for years, and this is just a non issue. I’ve never heard of this being an issue at any other nearby schools. It’s a made up stupid issue when there are real issues… kids needing to learn to read, learn to do math, challenging kids who are bored, etc.

Because south Arlington families don't go to ASFS. Presumably they're too busy strolling into their schools 15 minutes late smoking joints.

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is a big example of the lie that North Arlington parents tell themselves and the district that they want walkable schools for environmental concerns or because they value actually walking. If that were true, there would be a car line so long kids couldn’t get to school on time.

Realistically I think anything beyond about a half mile for elementary school isn’t really walkable.

This whole thread is a big example of the lie that North Arlington parents tell themselves and the district that they want walkable schools for environmental concerns or because they value actually walking. If that were true, there would be a car line so long kids couldn’t get to school on time.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The principle’s communication makes it sound like 9 isn’t the start time despite APS saying it’s the start time.

More importantly, why the heck is she picking this totally stupid fight with a bunch of North Arlington families? It’s not like these kids are all strolling in at 9:15 smoking a joint and saying we are not here to learn!?!! We have been at Taylor for years, and this is just a non issue. I’ve never heard of this being an issue at any other nearby schools. It’s a made up stupid issue when there are real issues… kids needing to learn to read, learn to do math, challenging kids who are bored, etc.

Definitely, I have been wondering this too, maybe to deflect from these real issues at the school with students and guiding the teachers and staff to support the kids and their education. If she spends her time on a fight or stuff which is pretty trivial, I worry her focus is not on tackling the higher priority issues. If she is picking stupid fights with parents, hope it stays with parents and does not affect the kids and the school's teachers and staff.

Maybe she’d have more time to focus on real issues if parents weren’t so lazy or whining so much about getting their kid to school on time.

Tardiness affects accreditation.

Yeah but this is not an issue at any other N Arlington ES. So it appears that the “tardiness” issue is either very specific to all the lazy ASFS parents (highly doubtful) or it’s an imaginary issue by some sociopath warlord who is hellbent on FOLLOWING THE RULES TO THE MINUTE.

You sound a bit unhinged. I can't tell if there is one poster who is very irritated at the ASFS principal for this, or multiple. But of all the things to get worked up about, this just doesn't seem worth it. I have seen vague complaints in this thread unrelated to this tardiness issue, but no actual specifics.

There will always be things to complain about. The previous principal was uptight and strict as all get out.

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Anonymous wrote:They just move the bad ones from school to school, including this one.

Principals can be put on improvement plans, just as teachers can be. Start by documenting your concerns with the principal: email, meet in person, follow up with email. Rinse and repeat, escalate as needed.

You would need to report concerns to the superintendent’s office for this to happen. I don’t think many parents do.

Oh PLEASE write the the super about this:

Dear Frankie, I am writing to complain about my principal because she wrote an email telling me I have to get my kid to school on time. It's MY RIGHT as a parent to get my kid to school at the time I decide. I pay my taxes and your salary!!! Fire her.

Anonymous wrote:The principle’s communication makes it sound like 9 isn’t the start time despite APS saying it’s the start time.

More importantly, why the heck is she picking this totally stupid fight with a bunch of North Arlington families? It’s not like these kids are all strolling in at 9:15 smoking a joint and saying we are not here to learn!?!! We have been at Taylor for years, and this is just a non issue. I’ve never heard of this being an issue at any other nearby schools. It’s a made up stupid issue when there are real issues… kids needing to learn to read, learn to do math, challenging kids who are bored, etc.

uh, because kids need to all be there to learn to read, learn to do math, and it's really disruptive when they roll in late. so just STFU and get your kid there a little earlier.

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Anonymous wrote:They just move the bad ones from school to school, including this one.

Principals can be put on improvement plans, just as teachers can be. Start by documenting your concerns with the principal: email, meet in person, follow up with email. Rinse and repeat, escalate as needed.

You would need to report concerns to the superintendent’s office for this to happen. I don’t think many parents do.

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Anonymous wrote:They just move the bad ones from school to school, including this one.

Principals can be put on improvement plans, just as teachers can be. Start by documenting your concerns with the principal: email, meet in person, follow up with email. Rinse and repeat, escalate as needed.

I have a hard time believing anyone is going to put a principal on an improvement plan. Perhaps I’m wrong, but I just don’t see it happening. Our principal is HORRIBLE (at another APS elementary school) and I don’t think anyone cares.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The principle’s communication makes it sound like 9 isn’t the start time despite APS saying it’s the start time.

More importantly, why the heck is she picking this totally stupid fight with a bunch of North Arlington families? It’s not like these kids are all strolling in at 9:15 smoking a joint and saying we are not here to learn!?!! We have been at Taylor for years, and this is just a non issue. I’ve never heard of this being an issue at any other nearby schools. It’s a made up stupid issue when there are real issues… kids needing to learn to read, learn to do math, challenging kids who are bored, etc.

Definitely, I have been wondering this too, maybe to deflect from these real issues at the school with students and guiding the teachers and staff to support the kids and their education. If she spends her time on a fight or stuff which is pretty trivial, I worry her focus is not on tackling the higher priority issues. If she is picking stupid fights with parents, hope it stays with parents and does not affect the kids and the school's teachers and staff.

Maybe she’d have more time to focus on real issues if parents weren’t so lazy or whining so much about getting their kid to school on time.

Tardiness affects accreditation.

Yeah but this is not an issue at any other N Arlington ES. So it appears that the “tardiness” issue is either very specific to all the lazy ASFS parents (highly doubtful) or it’s an imaginary issue by some sociopath warlord who is hellbent on FOLLOWING THE RULES TO THE MINUTE.

It’s an “issue” at ASFS because there are lazy, loud-mouthed APE types who would rather scream about having to get their kids to school on time instead of just leaving 5-10 min earlier.

STFU and get your kid there by 8:50.