Didn’t the Woodley Park ANC previously pass a resolution urging that MPD’s budget be cut?

For the perps to repair damage, you’d have to assume a set of skills and the ability plus good will to learn that you are unlikely to find. It indescribable unless you’ve had experience trying and had your expectations shattered. It’s a bottomless pit you could be pouring money and good intentions into for ever

Oh please. No one is talking about that, yet. Talking about a few cops moonlighting paid for by the concerned neighbors to, yes, protect our way of life. I’ve also experienced MX, SP, Joburg, and it’s far better than the alternative. But the model for us is the US cities, which are at it already, like St Louis. I hate to say it but it works. When the government fails, people organize and or arm themselves

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Anonymous wrote:Also, private police force, sorry “security”. I’ll pay for it and a bunch of neighbors will.

South Africa, here we come.

But, I agree. When the government doesn’t do their job to prosecute criminals and keep them off the streets, citizens will start looking after themselves.

I hope not. I was there when Jo’burg was the murder capital of the world.
It is no way to live, and everyone with the means was making plans to get out for good.

Violence just keeps escalating, if it goes unchecked. Every carjacking turns deadly. So you will defend yourself against assailants by any means necessary. Those who can’t, like the elderly, become prisoners by necessity. None of the laws are enforced anymore. It’s a spiral you can’t get a reprieve from.

Yes, you will have your privately guarded enclaves - private security with semi-automatic weapons and barbed wire and walls. It’s miserable. You want to go anywhere you need to organize a convoy. In between, what should be beautiful, it’s just piles of trash and decay. Snipers on rooftops. Everyone lost someone.

You don’t want all that, trust me.

Fund the police, fund the justice system. Enforce the laws, every time. Offer the social net and wrap around services, better, earlier, easier mental health care, etc. - but be tough on crime. Consequences for every offense. No 3rd chances. You go away for a long time. Involuntary commitment where needed. There’s a lot that can be done.

Anonymous wrote:This is actually the perfect moment for restorative justice. If I was the judge, I'd suggest a paid apprenticeship at a car mechanic where he'd learn to replace windows. It would end when he'd successfully replaced 50 of them.

Paid? No, he should pay for the honor of replacing them.

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, this seems like a teen boy prank with friends.

"Prank" is the wrong word. A prank is a physical joke or minor mischief played on someone. This is a spree of violent property crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, private police force, sorry “security”. I’ll pay for it and a bunch of neighbors will.

South Africa, here we come.

But, I agree. When the government doesn’t do their job to prosecute criminals and keep them off the streets, citizens will start looking after themselves.

My husband has a background in this stuff. I told him he should open a decent security service in the district--not untrained people who stare at thieves as they loot the shelves- but the real thing offering decent neighborhood and home protection. Curious about the interest level. Best would be if neighbors/neighborhoods went in on it together, to bring down the cost. Is this something you would go in on with your street?

It was not uncommon in the 90s, I remember it in Georgetown and Lanier Heights. The issue is, back then, a witness was enough to deter crime. Now, crime happens under police cameras, in broad daylight, with witnesses (who recently have been shot at) and within sight of LE. So, would be a very different and more dangerous scenario now, "eyes on the street" is not enough.

Anonymous wrote:So happy to see the announced federal surge. I returned my DNC survey and crossed out all their “top issues” and wrote “crime in DC and its close-in burbs.” Hopefully they will focus on the border towns too.

This is a bit off topic, but sadly, I think that the Democrats are making a lot of wrong assumptions about their voters and it continues to cost them.

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Anonymous wrote:Thinking about pop up cordons and bollards too..DC should be deploying these, not just for carjacking and vandalism, but illegal protests and terrorism. I spoke with a police rep at Frumins thing and she said, " but the carjackers are mostly teens and they could get really hurt driving into a bollard." What?! Even the police have been brainwashed in DC.

I like that. What will it take to deploy bollards on our Upper Utopia gorgeous street? I’m in.

Paris has them all over. I just don't know why the city doesn't random checkpoints and temporary bollards more. It's hard to drive a getaway car if there's a bollard.

Anonymous wrote:Thinking about pop up cordons and bollards too..DC should be deploying these, not just for carjacking and vandalism, but illegal protests and terrorism. I spoke with a police rep at Frumins thing and she said, " but the carjackers are mostly teens and they could get really hurt driving into a bollard." What?! Even the police have been brainwashed in DC.

I like that. What will it take to deploy bollards on our Upper Utopia gorgeous street? I’m in.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t be obtuse. He’s talking about private police force. The same cops who won’t come now will come when moonlighting privately for us in wealthy neighborhoods. So yeah you can come but you can’t hide. And I never again need to be aggravated by anything this city doesn’t do. Works well in a bunch of cities in the US too already. And yes it is in wealthy neighborhoods, so what? Tried to pay taxes and do the right thing. Doesn’t work. Keep Chaz and Frumin, and let us take care of ourselves. I have no interest in bird-flipping ANC. Gross

Do you have some examples of cities, townships, neighborhoods where it works well? I spoke with my spouse this morning, and the issue is human labor is always $. It would need to be a mesh of human eyes and tech, coordinating with the police force when needed. And liability concerns. But I'm guessing all that can be addressed. Wouldn't it be comforting to know someone talented was awake surveying suspicious activity in the neighborhood while you slept? I can research, but if you have any examples would love to hear.

OMG not writing your business plan for you. It’s not that complicated. It’s like with the rats. Make it hostile here so they move to another place. All we need is to hire one moonlighting cop, that way we’re safe off hours and they will take our reports on hours.

Thinking about pop up cordons and bollards too..DC should be deploying these, not just for carjacking and vandalism, but illegal protests and terrorism. I spoke with a police rep at Frumins thing and she said, " but the carjackers are mostly teens and they could get really hurt driving into a bollard." What?! Even the police have been brainwashed in DC.

Anonymous wrote:Don’t be obtuse. He’s talking about private police force. The same cops who won’t come now will come when moonlighting privately for us in wealthy neighborhoods. So yeah you can come but you can’t hide. And I never again need to be aggravated by anything this city doesn’t do. Works well in a bunch of cities in the US too already. And yes it is in wealthy neighborhoods, so what? Tried to pay taxes and do the right thing. Doesn’t work. Keep Chaz and Frumin, and let us take care of ourselves. I have no interest in bird-flipping ANC. Gross

Do you have some examples of cities, townships, neighborhoods where it works well? I spoke with my spouse this morning, and the issue is human labor is always $. It would need to be a mesh of human eyes and tech, coordinating with the police force when needed. And liability concerns. But I'm guessing all that can be addressed. Wouldn't it be comforting to know someone talented was awake surveying suspicious activity in the neighborhood while you slept? I can research, but if you have any examples would love to hear.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, private police force, sorry “security”. I’ll pay for it and a bunch of neighbors will.

I'd like more information about this. I never wanted to live in Brasil or a gated community, but I don't see the alternative

Walls don't work. And, how will people read your yard signs?

Our neighborhoods don’t have “yard” signs other than perhaps during renovation (gauche I know). That’s how you know you’re in the wealthy enclaves

Don’t be obtuse. He’s talking about private police force. The same cops who won’t come now will come when moonlighting privately for us in wealthy neighborhoods. So yeah you can come but you can’t hide. And I never again need to be aggravated by anything this city doesn’t do. Works well in a bunch of cities in the US too already. And yes it is in wealthy neighborhoods, so what? Tried to pay taxes and do the right thing. Doesn’t work. Keep Chaz and Frumin, and let us take care of ourselves. I have no interest in bird-flipping ANC. Gross