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Anonymous wrote:For those who have watched other seasons - is it necessary to watch the other seasons first? Are they all tied together or stand alone?

You don’t have to see the other seasons. Whatever connection there is it’s tangential. That being said, I think all of thr other seasons, especially Season One and Three, are much, much better than this one.

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Season One was some of the best acting I've ever seen. Except that the storyline was the most harrowing and traumatic for me to watch. Other than that, it was a first-class show.

I think the acting is impressive in this season as well. I had a hard time with season 1 because I can’t stand mm or wh. Mm is a complete narcissist- watch any interview with him. I love that HBO often promotes series that feature talented less known actors. I’m very impressed by kali’s acting skills but know she’s going to have lots of haters like Serena Williams has just because she isn’t a 90 pound blonde blue eyed waif.

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Anonymous wrote:For those who have watched other seasons - is it necessary to watch the other seasons first? Are they all tied together or stand alone?

You don’t have to see the other seasons. Whatever connection there is it’s tangential. That being said, I think all of thr other seasons, especially Season One and Three, are much, much better than this one.

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Season One was some of the best acting I've ever seen. Except that the storyline was the most harrowing and traumatic for me to watch. Other than that, it was a first-class show.

Anonymous wrote:For those who have watched other seasons - is it necessary to watch the other seasons first? Are they all tied together or stand alone?

You don’t have to see the other seasons. Whatever connection there is it’s tangential. That being said, I think all of thr other seasons, especially Season One and Three, are much, much better than this one.

Anonymous wrote:The writing is really bad. I'm out after two episodes. It's an insult to call it True Detective. It should just be Night Country and stand on its own.

Sadly, I could not agree more. The writing is atrocious and the story requires an extreme suspension of disbelief. What kind of detectives can’t count bodies correctly? The dialogue is strained and awkward. Speaking of dialogue, the way they’ve written in the backstory, mostly through dialogue, is beyond clunky. Every time they show that stupid, symbolic polar bear, I feel like I’m being beaten over the head! It’s like the director is yelling at me, “can’t you see how symbolic this is?” Episode two was even worse than episode one and at this point, I don’t care about the mystery or what happens to the characters. After genuinely looking forward to it, I’m out, too.

For those who have watched other seasons - is it necessary to watch the other seasons first? Are they all tied together or stand alone?

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Anonymous wrote:The writing is really bad. I'm out after two episodes. It's an insult to call it True Detective. It should just be Night Country and stand on its own.

Wow. I'm having the opposite reaction. I was drawn in immediately to this season. It took me a bit to warm up to season 1. I'm glad to see so many women and non white people in this show.

Also, there is a nut job posting here who seems to be triggered by weird things and desires to derail this thread. I'm going to try to ignore her posts and encourage everyone else to.

I'm confused about the relationship between Clark and the murdered Inuit woman. Why did they hide it. Were they not supposed to leave the station?

I agree. I'm loving it. All of the connections have not been made for me but I'm looking forward to seeing it unfold.

Anonymous wrote:The writing is really bad. I'm out after two episodes. It's an insult to call it True Detective. It should just be Night Country and stand on its own.

Wow. I'm having the opposite reaction. I was drawn in immediately to this season. It took me a bit to warm up to season 1. I'm glad to see so many women and non white people in this show.

Also, there is a nut job posting here who seems to be triggered by weird things and desires to derail this thread. I'm going to try to ignore her posts and encourage everyone else to.

I'm confused about the relationship between Clark and the murdered Inuit woman. Why did they hide it. Were they not supposed to leave the station?

The writing is really bad. I'm out after two episodes. It's an insult to call it True Detective. It should just be Night Country and stand on its own.

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Anonymous wrote:I live a good sex scene. Been with my husband for 25 years and love him to death but it’s nice to dream.

I was confused about the one people are talking about that. Was the guy just wanting her to slow down so it would last longer? And she was like no we’re going to finish when I want? Or was there something else going on. He seemed uncomfortable or something - not just into it and wanting to last.

Yes, that’s it: two ugly people grunting and humping in the premiere of a HBO detective for absolutely no reason. I love a good sex scene, too. But I want to dream I’m Geena Davis being seduced by Brad Pitt, not whatever it was those two characters were doing. Yuck.

Geena Davis and Brad Pitt?

When was the last time either of them did a sex scene? 2 decades ago?

Who cares when it happened? That’s how a good sex scene is done. That’s why I remember it years later. Newer does not equal better. In this case, it equals much worse.

I don't look to be turned on by sex scenes, nor do I rate sex scenes by how "hot" the actors are. Please. Go watch softcore if that's what you're looking for. Sex scenes should do something to advance the story or give insight into the character. Otherwise, pffft.

Regardless, I like Kali Reis in this series. I've never seen her in anything before so I googled her and was surprised that she is a pro boxer and those piercings are real. She just started acting a couple of years ago. I think she's great.

I’m not looking to be turned on either. I’m looking to watch a detective show. What I don’t want to see is an ugly actress humping a slightly better looking, but also unattractive, actor who is groaning and begging her to stop. I was thinking the same thing. Stop! That scene added nothing to the plot. It provided zero insight into the character. (Some PP mentioned that it showed she got horny and wanted a connection. Um, who doesn’t?!?) On top of all of that the scene was not sexy. Those are images I didn’t want in my head. That is why so many different people have said that it was gratuitous, unnecessary and gross.

Did you have the same reaction to Jodie Foster’s sex scene with Christopher Eccleston and if not, ask yourself what the difference was…(don’t worry I already know the answer)

Yes, I had the same reaction. It was too graphic and totally unnecessary. The director could have showed me that these two were romantic without resorting to a cheap, GRATUITOUS sex scene.

Ask yourself why you assume you know how a total stranger feels about a tv show. This thread is filled with numerous comments from people saying they wish shows would cut it out with the gratuitous sex. What’s next, watching how a character scrubs her toilet to illustrate her character traits?

You’re an idiot. They were not having a romantic moment. Do you not understand the point? Are you really that dumb?

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Anonymous wrote:I live a good sex scene. Been with my husband for 25 years and love him to death but it’s nice to dream.

I was confused about the one people are talking about that. Was the guy just wanting her to slow down so it would last longer? And she was like no we’re going to finish when I want? Or was there something else going on. He seemed uncomfortable or something - not just into it and wanting to last.

Yes, that’s it: two ugly people grunting and humping in the premiere of a HBO detective for absolutely no reason. I love a good sex scene, too. But I want to dream I’m Geena Davis being seduced by Brad Pitt, not whatever it was those two characters were doing. Yuck.

Geena Davis and Brad Pitt?

When was the last time either of them did a sex scene? 2 decades ago?

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Who cares when it happened? That’s how a good sex scene is done. That’s why I remember it years later. Newer does not equal better. In this case, it equals much worse.

I don't look to be turned on by sex scenes, nor do I rate sex scenes by how "hot" the actors are. Please. Go watch softcore if that's what you're looking for. Sex scenes should do something to advance the story or give insight into the character. Otherwise, pffft.

Regardless, I like Kali Reis in this series. I've never seen her in anything before so I googled her and was surprised that she is a pro boxer and those piercings are real. She just started acting a couple of years ago. I think she's great.

I’m not looking to be turned on either. I’m looking to watch a detective show. What I don’t want to see is an ugly actress humping a slightly better looking, but also unattractive, actor who is groaning and begging her to stop. I was thinking the same thing. Stop! That scene added nothing to the plot. It provided zero insight into the character. (Some PP mentioned that it showed she got horny and wanted a connection. Um, who doesn’t?!?) On top of all of that the scene was not sexy. Those are images I didn’t want in my head. That is why so many different people have said that it was gratuitous, unnecessary and gross.

But...why were those images stuck in your head? I barely remembered it until you brought it up here, and you can't stop talking about it. Which is weird.

There are a bunch of posters talking about it, not just one. I personally think Kali is ugly. I don’t appreciate her body type or her tattoos. I don’t like her piercings. I don’t like her face. She might be a great actress, but she doesn’t appeal to me at all. I do, however, love Jodie Foster. I’ll be watching for Jodie.

Far from "ugly"

We’ll have to agree to disagree.

She’s foxy. You’re wrong 😆

I’m guessing she looks like your exes next or currents last. Too adamant about a beautiful woman being unattractive. Reads baggage for sure.

Nope. Not at all. I’m happily married and my most recent ex is married to someone who looks like Reece Witherspoon. I am flabbergasted that anyone would call Kali Reis beautiful, but I appreciate that beauty is in the eye of the holder. Though I suspect the majority of beholders agree with me.

and it’s clear in your opinion beauty is blonde, blue eyed and less than 90 pounds. We see you.

Fun fact, I just discovered this show was filmed in Iceland!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/is-ennis-alaska-a-real-place-where-true-detective-season-4-was-filmed/ar-BB1h8B7Q

Anonymous wrote:I am a bit taken a back by the brashness and bigotry of Jodie Foster’s character. She makes several racist comments re natives to many characters in the two episodes (did you hear that from your spirit animal, laundromat grandma, you’re just a night nurse, and then her complete freak out over her step daughter getting sharpie fake tattoo marks). She’s a real bigot. I’m sorry if she has trauma, so what?!

None of those behaviors should be tolerated. She’s just an awful a-hole character.

You must not know anyone in law enforcement with reservations nearby. It's an accurate depiction of the strain.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a bit taken a back by the brashness and bigotry of Jodie Foster’s character. She makes several racist comments re natives to many characters in the two episodes (did you hear that from your spirit animal, laundromat grandma, you’re just a night nurse, and then her complete freak out over her step daughter getting sharpie fake tattoo marks). She’s a real bigot. I’m sorry if she has trauma, so what?!

None of those behaviors should be tolerated. She’s just an awful a-hole character.

Well the trooper told her no one liked her. Jodie is playing the character perfectly.

Exactly. She's playing a part. Maybe the PP should find another show to watch if someone *acting* a certain way is so triggering.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a bit taken a back by the brashness and bigotry of Jodie Foster’s character. She makes several racist comments re natives to many characters in the two episodes (did you hear that from your spirit animal, laundromat grandma, you’re just a night nurse, and then her complete freak out over her step daughter getting sharpie fake tattoo marks). She’s a real bigot. I’m sorry if she has trauma, so what?!

None of those behaviors should be tolerated. She’s just an awful a-hole character.

Would you want your daughter to have a tribal tattoo on her face? I sure as hell wouldn’t. I’m pretty sure that would affect job prospects, no? There is nothing racist about wanting your child to adopt to the modern world they live in. Those Inuits seem to like that electricity and central heating the evil White man invented, no? Not tattooing one’s face is a small sacrifice for that trade.

It was a sharpie and facial tattoos on women (esp on the chin) are very significant. Listen to yourself. You’re terrible.

There is zero wrong with being a night nurse or working an honest job in a laundromat. The state trooper and her sister are both employees. The crab factory and the mine have Inuits working there. How exactly is the step daughter not living in the modern world. You are disgusting in your bigotry. Really, really awful.

What’s really, really awful is what a phony you are. Simple question and try to be honest although I doubt you can be because of the cognitive dissonance involved: would you want your daughter to get a tribal facial tattoo? Yes or no.

I have no idea. If she was Inuit, and it was part of her culture (which signifies womanhood) then if that is what she wanted then ok. But Jodie Foster is no mother to that girl based on the 2 episodes we’ve seen. It seems she’s her stepdaughter and that her father was Inuit (based on the flashbacks). What has JF been doing to support her stepdaughter’s culture, other than insult every single native character with whom she has interacted on the show. Every one.

DP. I think the hostility JF has toward the Inuit is obviously part of the plot. Maybe you should relax just a tad and see how it all plays out?

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Anonymous wrote:Dead Travis is dead and is Matthew McConaughey‘s character in season 1’s father.

The swirly symbol is from previous seasons.

JF is not related to the two male cops. The younger babysat her daughter when he was younger (he mentioned it at the end of the episode). The relationship b/w Liz and Leah hasn’t been clarified.

Wait - WHAT?? How do you know this? So was that woman his mother (the woman who lives alone and saw Dead Travis)??

I’d like to say it is b/c I remember from watching season 1 ten years ago… but really I read a couple of different recaps and they all pointed these things out.

Honestly, I want to do a rewatch of season 1 now.

PP here - and that is exactly what I'm going to do, too!