Anonymous
Post 02/27/2025 14:58     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Used the search function - found this.

Do we think women's studies programs are going away at universities given the new Trump policies? Or just the "gender" part of the major and it will go back to being fully about women?

DD has an interest in women's history and women's material culture (anthropology) based on some summer activities.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2024 09:18     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:my rising senior is trying to decide between (1) women's studies; (2) sociology and (3) undecided or American Studies or Anthropology.

Is there any benefit to any of these majors (as a strategy) at T50 schools?

Female.
top rated non-DMV private HS.
High grades/stats and ECs that relate to women's studies and sociology, along with some national recognition.

Unclear about what her strategy should be.
OP - thoughts or weigh in?
Apply to whichever of women's studies, sociology, or anthropology has had the lowest enrollment last year relative to the school's long term average


Np. Where do you find this data?
And I think sociology is more popular than anthropology or women’s studies.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2024 07:43     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
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Anonymous wrote:Why do people feel entitled to judge what other people’s kids study in college?


Because of student loan forgiveness.

People don't want to pay for other people's kids frivolous nonsense degrees.


She’s not borrowing $$$. Read the thread.


DP here. My concern wouldn't be the public purse and I am a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education... but I don't think Gender or Ethnic Studies students get a liberal arts education. They get indoctrinated.


NP. OP didn't ask for your biased opinion. Take your politics elsewhere. Good grief.



The point is that these "studies" are themselves biased, not inquiry.


DP: So studying how gender has been conceptualized and how it has impacted work, health, politics etc. throughout history and across culture is not a meaningful inquiry? [b]

My kid got a Hispanic studies minor--that meant they took all the courses for the minor in Spanish and studied the history, geography, culture, art, politics of the regions. How is that not a liberal arts education?



It mighy be a "meaningful inquiry" but that's all. We are talking about an entire major, four tears if focus and then hurdles into getting that first job. Not a smart choice.


What? You mean there aren’t a lot of employers who are eager to hire someone who just spent 4 years fine-tuning their ability to whine about authoritarianism and men?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2024 07:34     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Anonymous wrote:If she majors in Women's Studies and is full-pay, it means one less competitor for your kids' Engineering and CS placements
Why bother criticizing the choice?


Do you really think this person could cut it in CS, engineering, or the hard sciences?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2024 07:31     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unique undergrad....make sure she picks up good Master's program. Good route to medical school.


How would a gender studies degree even remotely prepare anyone for medical school??

Heaven help us if gender studies programs are where our future doctors are coming from.
Women's studies with premed prerequisites isn't significantly worse than, say, history + premed prerequisites or English + premed prerequisites
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2024 07:29     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Anonymous wrote:my rising senior is trying to decide between (1) women's studies; (2) sociology and (3) undecided or American Studies or Anthropology.

Is there any benefit to any of these majors (as a strategy) at T50 schools?

Female.
top rated non-DMV private HS.
High grades/stats and ECs that relate to women's studies and sociology, along with some national recognition.

Unclear about what her strategy should be.
OP - thoughts or weigh in?
Apply to whichever of women's studies, sociology, or anthropology has had the lowest enrollment last year relative to the school's long term average
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2024 07:27     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.


Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.


That is because men dominated medicine, design and engineering. If you want to change these things, you need to go into those fields, not sit around writing papers whining about how unfair it is.


But even in the most egalitarian societies (like Norway and Sweden) where females are actively encouraged to pursue careers in medicine or hard sciences or more thing-oriented professions, they overwhelmingly CHOOSE careers that trend more toward humanities, soft sciences, and people-oriented professions.
And on the flip side, countries like Turkey actually have more gender parity in STEM subjects, likely due to harsh economic realities that women from countries with more socialist protections do not have to worry about.

You won't learn any of this very interesting stuff in a gender studies program, of course.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 22:48     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Anonymous wrote:If she majors in Women's Studies and is full-pay, it means one less competitor for your kids' Engineering and CS placements
Why bother criticizing the choice?


Lol
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 21:36     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Hopefully she marries up
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 21:34     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Anonymous wrote:Junior DD- with 3.9 uw GPA and unique pointy ECs (private HS) related to women’s studies/women’s rights/intersectionality (along with corresponding summer internship this year) is looking to assemble a strong list of colleges to visit.


In particular… Looking for schools that are selective where it may be advantageous to apply to this major. Ideas??




Barnard, Brown, Southern Methodist, Yale, Tulane, USC, Colgate, Vassar, Pomona, Wellesley.

BS major. A wife major. So choose accordingly
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 21:16     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
If she majors in Women's Studies and is full-pay, it means one less competitor for your kids' Engineering and CS placements
Why bother criticizing the choice?
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 21:09     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people feel entitled to judge what other people’s kids study in college?


Because of student loan forgiveness.

People don't want to pay for other people's kids frivolous nonsense degrees.


She’s not borrowing $$$. Read the thread.


Yeah. Read the thread. She’s a trust fund baby who is going to major in a field of study that will teach her how to make *other* people feel guilty and responsible for the lack of equity in the world. (Shhhhh don’t comment on the financial inequity of her being able to afford college debt free due to the wealth she was born into)
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 21:01     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She should go to the cheapest college possible if she's going to major in that. Otherwise she'll be saddled with student debt she'll never be able to pay off.


Full pay…trust from grandparents will fund all education for life. Thanks tho


Phew!
Good thing.
She might want to keep that under wraps to her classmates, and maybe apologize to her in advance for putting her in this unenviable position—as these are the types of classes where profs and fellow students will hammer home the message of the evil of privilege and generational wealth, and she will either learn to loathe herself and your family for contributing to the injustice of it all, or (more likely), she will do what most leftists do and pretend they make no contribution to any of this. “Do as I say not as I do.”
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 20:57     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She should go to the cheapest college possible if she's going to major in that. Otherwise she'll be saddled with student debt she'll never be able to pay off.


Full pay…trust from grandparents will fund all education for life. Thanks tho


Hope it carries her through man-hating angry feminist single living.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 20:55     Subject: Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.


Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.


That is because men dominated medicine, design and engineering. If you want to change these things, you need to go into those fields, not sit around writing papers whining about how unfair it is.


But even in the most egalitarian societies (like Norway and Sweden) where females are actively encouraged to pursue careers in medicine or hard sciences or more thing-oriented professions, they overwhelmingly CHOOSE careers that trend more toward humanities, soft sciences, and people-oriented professions.