Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:47
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People are so dumb. Wake up.
Covid is seriously messing with our immune systems and you need to do all you can to protect yourself and your families
I haven't been sick since omicron in January 2022. I travel, live with preschoolers, never wear a mask, and wash my hands less than most (in recovery from OCD). Tell me again how my immune system is messed with?
So you are one of the lucky ones. But for millions others, they have messed up their immune systems immensely and will get to live with that for a long time. I know many people with long covid, so just because you got lucky doesn't mean it's not a thing.
Millions? Really? Cite, please.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db480.htm
try again. that was based on a telephone survey that asked if covid symptoms lasted longer than 3 months. crappy research.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:45
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can I say the quiet part out loud? I am not convinced that the mRNA technology is safe. It’s brand new and there are only 3 years of experience with it. We know it risks heart damage for young men. It’s entirely possible that repeated mRNAs could pose a heart risk for more people in the long run. We just do not know and as far as I can tell the research is not being done. We don’t even know if repeated covid vaccination actually reduces risk. There has been research in flu vaccines suggesting that repeated vaccination can actually dampen immune response.
It's not brand new at all. It's perfectly safe. And you're spewing complete and utter bullshit and should be ashamed of yourself.
It's one thing to be ignorant. It's quite another to present your ignorance as some sort of credible or valid position.
Do you have any actual facts or are you just going to scream? the mRNA vax DOES cause myocarditis in some cases. It is not magic unicorn sparkles. Nobody has ever taken repeated mRNA vaccines for years. There is no magic forcefield around vaccines as a medical product. I mean, one covid vax (J&J) isn’t even in use anymore due to side effects.
Do you know what also causes myocaditis? Having Covid-19.
MRNA vaccines have been around for 30 years. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines#:~:text=There%27s%20a%20big%20gap%20between,tested%20in%20humans%20in%202013.
Stop spewing your delusional bullshit or you will be perceived as doing it intentionally.
mRNA vaccines have absolutely not been administered repeatedly to large populations for 30 years. that’s incorrect.
for younger men the risk of myocarditis from the vaccine is significant.
but anyway if you are so convinced in your “science”, please link to the paper that shows
a) risks over 10 years of repeated mRNA vaccination
b) efficacy and effectiveness of mRNA boosters *as compared to people with the original series and covid infection.* not compared to no vax/no infection.
The risk to young men who get COVID is way worse. But that requires logical reasoning skills.
please tell me about your logical reasoning skills that require no actual examination of the evidence…
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:44
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People are so dumb. Wake up.
Covid is seriously messing with our immune systems and you need to do all you can to protect yourself and your families
I haven't been sick since omicron in January 2022. I travel, live with preschoolers, never wear a mask, and wash my hands less than most (in recovery from OCD). Tell me again how my immune system is messed with?
So you are one of the lucky ones. But for millions others, they have messed up their immune systems immensely and will get to live with that for a long time. I know many people with long covid, so just because you got lucky doesn't mean it's not a thing.
Millions? Really? Cite, please.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db480.htm
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:42
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:See, I can kinda understand why you might decide the booster isn’t for you. What I can’t understand is why you have to get all angry and worked up about it. THAT’S what makes you a weirdo.
Because my employer mandates it. Illegally, perhaps, but they do.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:42
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can I say the quiet part out loud? I am not convinced that the mRNA technology is safe. It’s brand new and there are only 3 years of experience with it. We know it risks heart damage for young men. It’s entirely possible that repeated mRNAs could pose a heart risk for more people in the long run. We just do not know and as far as I can tell the research is not being done. We don’t even know if repeated covid vaccination actually reduces risk. There has been research in flu vaccines suggesting that repeated vaccination can actually dampen immune response.
It's not brand new at all. It's perfectly safe. And you're spewing complete and utter bullshit and should be ashamed of yourself.
It's one thing to be ignorant. It's quite another to present your ignorance as some sort of credible or valid position.
Do you have any actual facts or are you just going to scream? the mRNA vax DOES cause myocarditis in some cases. It is not magic unicorn sparkles. Nobody has ever taken repeated mRNA vaccines for years. There is no magic forcefield around vaccines as a medical product. I mean, one covid vax (J&J) isn’t even in use anymore due to side effects.
Do you know what also causes myocaditis? Having Covid-19.
MRNA vaccines have been around for 30 years. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines#:~:text=There%27s%20a%20big%20gap%20between,tested%20in%20humans%20in%202013.
Stop spewing your delusional bullshit or you will be perceived as doing it intentionally.
mRNA vaccines have absolutely not been administered repeatedly to large populations for 30 years. that’s incorrect.
for younger men the risk of myocarditis from the vaccine is significant.
but anyway if you are so convinced in your “science”, please link to the paper that shows
a) risks over 10 years of repeated mRNA vaccination
b) efficacy and effectiveness of mRNA boosters *as compared to people with the original series and covid infection.* not compared to no vax/no infection.
The risk to young men who get COVID is way worse. But that requires logical reasoning skills.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:40
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People are so dumb. Wake up.
Covid is seriously messing with our immune systems and you need to do all you can to protect yourself and your families
I haven't been sick since omicron in January 2022. I travel, live with preschoolers, never wear a mask, and wash my hands less than most (in recovery from OCD). Tell me again how my immune system is messed with?
So you are one of the lucky ones. But for millions others, they have messed up their immune systems immensely and will get to live with that for a long time. I know many people with long covid, so just because you got lucky doesn't mean it's not a thing.
Millions? Really? Cite, please.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:37
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:According to a British analysis, giving the booster to about a million people would prevent, on average, one death. That is, your risk of death from not getting the shot is about 1 in a million.
You also have about a 1 in a million risk from dying if you drive 200 miles.
I got a booster, because I think there are slight benefits, but the emphasis is on slight. People who are already vaxxed and decide not to get a booster are not idiots. (I do think people who refused a first vaccine are idiots.)
Sources:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-autumn-2023-vaccination-programme-jcvi-advice-26-may-2023/appendix-1-ukhsa-report-estimating-the-number-needed-to-vaccinate-to-prevent-covid-19-hospitalisation-for-booster-vaccination-in-autumn-2023-in-engla
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/
Isn’t the latest shot considered a new Covid shot and not a booster. In other words that it’s a new and necessary vaccine instead of “boosting” historic protection?
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:30
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
According to a British analysis, giving the booster to about a million people would prevent, on average, one death. That is, your risk of death from not getting the shot is about 1 in a million.
You also have about a 1 in a million risk from dying if you drive 200 miles.
I got a booster, because I think there are slight benefits, but the emphasis is on slight. People who are already vaxxed and decide not to get a booster are not idiots. (I do think people who refused a first vaccine are idiots.)
Sources:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-autumn-2023-vaccination-programme-jcvi-advice-26-may-2023/appendix-1-ukhsa-report-estimating-the-number-needed-to-vaccinate-to-prevent-covid-19-hospitalisation-for-booster-vaccination-in-autumn-2023-in-engla
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/
You also have about a 1 in a million risk from dying if you drive 200 miles.
I got a booster, because I think there are slight benefits, but the emphasis is on slight. People who are already vaxxed and decide not to get a booster are not idiots. (I do think people who refused a first vaccine are idiots.)
Sources:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-autumn-2023-vaccination-programme-jcvi-advice-26-may-2023/appendix-1-ukhsa-report-estimating-the-number-needed-to-vaccinate-to-prevent-covid-19-hospitalisation-for-booster-vaccination-in-autumn-2023-in-engla
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:24
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can I say the quiet part out loud? I am not convinced that the mRNA technology is safe. It’s brand new and there are only 3 years of experience with it. We know it risks heart damage for young men. It’s entirely possible that repeated mRNAs could pose a heart risk for more people in the long run. We just do not know and as far as I can tell the research is not being done. We don’t even know if repeated covid vaccination actually reduces risk. There has been research in flu vaccines suggesting that repeated vaccination can actually dampen immune response.
It's not brand new at all. It's perfectly safe. And you're spewing complete and utter bullshit and should be ashamed of yourself.
It's one thing to be ignorant. It's quite another to present your ignorance as some sort of credible or valid position.
Do you have any actual facts or are you just going to scream? the mRNA vax DOES cause myocarditis in some cases. It is not magic unicorn sparkles. Nobody has ever taken repeated mRNA vaccines for years. There is no magic forcefield around vaccines as a medical product. I mean, one covid vax (J&J) isn’t even in use anymore due to side effects.
Do you know what also causes myocaditis? Having Covid-19.
MRNA vaccines have been around for 30 years. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines#:~:text=There%27s%20a%20big%20gap%20between,tested%20in%20humans%20in%202013.
Stop spewing your delusional bullshit or you will be perceived as doing it intentionally.
mRNA vaccines have absolutely not been administered repeatedly to large populations for 30 years. that’s incorrect.
for younger men the risk of myocarditis from the vaccine is significant.
but anyway if you are so convinced in your “science”, please link to the paper that shows
a) risks over 10 years of repeated mRNA vaccination
b) efficacy and effectiveness of mRNA boosters *as compared to people with the original series and covid infection.* not compared to no vax/no infection.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:21
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can I say the quiet part out loud? I am not convinced that the mRNA technology is safe. It’s brand new and there are only 3 years of experience with it. We know it risks heart damage for young men. It’s entirely possible that repeated mRNAs could pose a heart risk for more people in the long run. We just do not know and as far as I can tell the research is not being done. We don’t even know if repeated covid vaccination actually reduces risk. There has been research in flu vaccines suggesting that repeated vaccination can actually dampen immune response.
Yea and it causes autism too! 🙄
Yup. I'll take the small risk from any vaccine over the significantly higher risk of issues from getting covid. I have a 24 yo with mild long covid. First 6-8 months after getting covid (pre vax opportunities), their heart rate would race to 180+ while sitting still. If they ran down/up a flight of stairs in the house, it would go over 200 and take 30 mins to return to a moderately reasonable rate. They went from being able to play basketball for 2+ hours to not being able to even play for 3+ months. 3+ years later, they still could not play for 2+ hours. And theirs is mild---doctors say they are fine, heart and lung scans show no damage officially. Yet it is obvious they have damaged their body irreparably .
Also, the mRNA vaccines were being developed for decades, hence why we had them within a year after covid began.
except the risks & benefits of repeated covid vax have not been clearly established for low risk/younger people. they just have not been around long enough and administered to enough people. lab development isn’t the same as post-market.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:21
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can I say the quiet part out loud? I am not convinced that the mRNA technology is safe. It’s brand new and there are only 3 years of experience with it. We know it risks heart damage for young men. It’s entirely possible that repeated mRNAs could pose a heart risk for more people in the long run. We just do not know and as far as I can tell the research is not being done. We don’t even know if repeated covid vaccination actually reduces risk. There has been research in flu vaccines suggesting that repeated vaccination can actually dampen immune response.
It's not brand new at all. It's perfectly safe. And you're spewing complete and utter bullshit and should be ashamed of yourself.
It's one thing to be ignorant. It's quite another to present your ignorance as some sort of credible or valid position.
Do you have any actual facts or are you just going to scream? the mRNA vax DOES cause myocarditis in some cases. It is not magic unicorn sparkles. Nobody has ever taken repeated mRNA vaccines for years. There is no magic forcefield around vaccines as a medical product. I mean, one covid vax (J&J) isn’t even in use anymore due to side effects.
Do you know what also causes myocaditis? Having Covid-19.
MRNA vaccines have been around for 30 years. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines#:~:text=There%27s%20a%20big%20gap%20between,tested%20in%20humans%20in%202013.
Stop spewing your delusional bullshit or you will be perceived as doing it intentionally.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:20
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can I say the quiet part out loud? I am not convinced that the mRNA technology is safe. It’s brand new and there are only 3 years of experience with it. We know it risks heart damage for young men. It’s entirely possible that repeated mRNAs could pose a heart risk for more people in the long run. We just do not know and as far as I can tell the research is not being done. We don’t even know if repeated covid vaccination actually reduces risk. There has been research in flu vaccines suggesting that repeated vaccination can actually dampen immune response.
Yea and it causes autism too! 🙄
Yeah, that’s not helpful. The myocarditis causation is already established.
But the myocarditis risk from getting covid is significantly higher for those "same young men". That has been established. So get the Novavax if you are that concerned. But not getting the mRNA is also silly if you look at the data---your risk is significantly higher of heart issues from getting covid itself. Science and facts are amazing
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:19
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can I say the quiet part out loud? I am not convinced that the mRNA technology is safe. It’s brand new and there are only 3 years of experience with it. We know it risks heart damage for young men. It’s entirely possible that repeated mRNAs could pose a heart risk for more people in the long run. We just do not know and as far as I can tell the research is not being done. We don’t even know if repeated covid vaccination actually reduces risk. There has been research in flu vaccines suggesting that repeated vaccination can actually dampen immune response.
Yea and it causes autism too! 🙄
I think medical doctors say this isn't accurate.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:18
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can I say the quiet part out loud? I am not convinced that the mRNA technology is safe. It’s brand new and there are only 3 years of experience with it. We know it risks heart damage for young men. It’s entirely possible that repeated mRNAs could pose a heart risk for more people in the long run. We just do not know and as far as I can tell the research is not being done. We don’t even know if repeated covid vaccination actually reduces risk. There has been research in flu vaccines suggesting that repeated vaccination can actually dampen immune response.
Yea and it causes autism too! 🙄
Yup. I'll take the small risk from any vaccine over the significantly higher risk of issues from getting covid. I have a 24 yo with mild long covid. First 6-8 months after getting covid (pre vax opportunities), their heart rate would race to 180+ while sitting still. If they ran down/up a flight of stairs in the house, it would go over 200 and take 30 mins to return to a moderately reasonable rate. They went from being able to play basketball for 2+ hours to not being able to even play for 3+ months. 3+ years later, they still could not play for 2+ hours. And theirs is mild---doctors say they are fine, heart and lung scans show no damage officially. Yet it is obvious they have damaged their body irreparably .
Also, the mRNA vaccines were being developed for decades, hence why we had them within a year after covid began.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 10:15
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can I say the quiet part out loud? I am not convinced that the mRNA technology is safe. It’s brand new and there are only 3 years of experience with it. We know it risks heart damage for young men. It’s entirely possible that repeated mRNAs could pose a heart risk for more people in the long run. We just do not know and as far as I can tell the research is not being done. We don’t even know if repeated covid vaccination actually reduces risk. There has been research in flu vaccines suggesting that repeated vaccination can actually dampen immune response.
It's not brand new at all. It's perfectly safe. And you're spewing complete and utter bullshit and should be ashamed of yourself.
It's one thing to be ignorant. It's quite another to present your ignorance as some sort of credible or valid position.
Do you have any actual facts or are you just going to scream? the mRNA vax DOES cause myocarditis in some cases. It is not magic unicorn sparkles. Nobody has ever taken repeated mRNA vaccines for years. There is no magic forcefield around vaccines as a medical product. I mean, one covid vax (J&J) isn’t even in use anymore due to side effects.