Anonymous wrote:I would not for a second put Brown on this list. I suspect the majority of Brown students are strongly attracted to the lack of required classes. That’s why it is so popular with Hollywood offspring who might not be actual Ivy material, but can get by with a bunch of easier classes. At a school with snob appeal, students wouldn’t be deterred by required classes, even if they included classical languages or ancient philosophy.

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Anonymous wrote:If we're talking historic old money/blue book WASPs, you can find your answer in this article from 1963, "Colleges of America's Upper Class" https://www.unz.com/print/SaturdayRev-1963nov16-00068/

It's Yale by a lot. Followed by Harvard, then Princeton. Then there's a sharp drop to everything else. For women, it's 7 sisters + junior colleges, more evenly mixed.

Summarizing here:

Colleges most commonly attended by the 1963 college-aged cohort:
Yale (171) > Harvard (123) > Princeton (76) >
Pennsylvania (44)> Trinity > Middlebury > Virginia> Stanford> Williams> Hobart/ North Carolina (tied)> Boston U.> Dartmouth

For women college students, also decreasing order/10+ students listed):
Smith> Vassar> Radcliffe> Wellesley> Wheaton> Bryn Mawr> Sarah Lawrence> 3 junior colleges (Bradford, Bennett, Briarcliff)> Hollins> Connecticut College> Mt. Holyoke> Wells

And for the alma maters of the men listed in the blue book:
Again, Yale (2234), Harvard close behind (1746), Princeton 3rd (1422)
Then there's a sharp drop:
Williams (325), and it goes down from there:
Columbia> Virginia> Cornell> Dartmouth> Amherst> M.I.T.> Trinity> Pennsylvania> Brown> Annapolis> West Point > N.Y.U.> California (Berkeley)> Georgetown> Colgate> North Carolina> Hamilton> Wesleyan

This was 60 years ago, though. The Ivy brand has taken a massive hit in the past decade alone.

So true! Harvard, Yale and Princeton are a thing of the past. Irrelevant!

Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth and Princeton

Anonymous wrote:Princeton
Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Penn
Stanford
NYU
USC
Georgetown
Vanderbilt
Duke
Amherst
Williams
Wellseley
Vassar
Middlebury
Bowdoin
Haverford

perchance add Dartmouth?

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Anonymous wrote:Completely wrong about Brown. Some of the smartest people I know have gone/now go to Brown. The people who can handle the open curriculum are drawn to Brown. Yes, there are some Hollywood offspring, who surprisingly do add to the campus community, but the vast majority of Brown students are very high stats and wildly impressive across disciplines. The reality is the open curriculum is more relevant today in 2023. Other top schools are de facto migrating toward having an open curriculum.

I don’t buy it.

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Anonymous wrote:Completely wrong about Brown. Some of the smartest people I know have gone/now go to Brown. The people who can handle the open curriculum are drawn to Brown. Yes, there are some Hollywood offspring, who surprisingly do add to the campus community, but the vast majority of Brown students are very high stats and wildly impressive across disciplines. The reality is the open curriculum is more relevant today in 2023. Other top schools are de facto migrating toward having an open curriculum.

I don’t buy it.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen this term used on this forum a few times. If you were to create a list of schools with snob appeal, which names would be on there?

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Anonymous wrote:I would not for a second put Brown on this list. I suspect the majority of Brown students are strongly attracted to the lack of required classes. That’s why it is so popular with Hollywood offspring who might not be actual Ivy material, but can get by with a bunch of easier classes. At a school with snob appeal, students wouldn’t be deterred by required classes, even if they included classical languages or ancient philosophy.

Brown, Dartmouth, USC and NYU are favorite destinations of kids of super wealthy Indians.

Anonymous wrote:Completely wrong about Brown. Some of the smartest people I know have gone/now go to Brown. The people who can handle the open curriculum are drawn to Brown. Yes, there are some Hollywood offspring, who surprisingly do add to the campus community, but the vast majority of Brown students are very high stats and wildly impressive across disciplines. The reality is the open curriculum is more relevant today in 2023. Other top schools are de facto migrating toward having an open curriculum.