Anonymous
10/18/2023 12:25
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t DCPS actually have excess school capacity? It’s just not in Ward 3.
Yes. Frumin is trumpeting the Intelsat because it is metro accessible. But that's not exactly a plus when no one in the boundary (Hardy MS) that the school serves lives on a metro line. MacArthur is not a great location, but it's much better than Intelsat for that boundary.
His goal ostensibly would be to make it a city-wide school in Ward 3, primarily for OOB students, so that Palisades kids can go back to J-R because DCPS is starting a new boundary study. However, I don’t think that’s his real goal because this proposal is so sloppy and ill thought through that it is fundamentally unserious. So his main goal is probably to placate Palisades families to make it look like he’s fighting for them by throwing out this pathetic Hail Mary that lacks conviction. I’m sure Trish Duncan has been chatting with him.
I don't think his plan helps anyone except the Foxhall NIMBYs (who have fought tooth-and-nail to keep public school kids out of their neighborhood) and the LAB School (who would get to unify their campus). It certainly doesn't help public school families in the Palisades - or almost anywhere else in the Hardy feeder pattern - as the Intelsat location is in a very different part of the city. The plan makes so little sense that most people assume that there is an ulterior motive driving this.
There would be a public elementary school on the former Hardy site, and families from Palisades could likely choose from J-R, the new high school, Ellington or one of the downtown schools.
What downtown schools? Ellington is a highly selective arts school.
Intelsat is virtually next to J-R. The plan makes no sense.
Ellington is a highly selective arts school. Whatever it is, it educates a lot of non-tuition paying Maryland residents, on the DC taxpyayers' dime. Ellington isn't exactly "highly selective" when it comes to non-resident students.
Anonymous
10/18/2023 11:32
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Who are the LAB School lobbyists?
Please let me know because they are crazy effective at getting free/cheap sh#t from the city to benefit a private school. I want to hire them for stuff because apparently they have the Mayor and a majority of the City Council in their pocket.
Please let me know because they are crazy effective at getting free/cheap sh#t from the city to benefit a private school. I want to hire them for stuff because apparently they have the Mayor and a majority of the City Council in their pocket.
Anonymous
10/17/2023 15:17
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t DCPS actually have excess school capacity? It’s just not in Ward 3.
Yes. Frumin is trumpeting the Intelsat because it is metro accessible. But that's not exactly a plus when no one in the boundary (Hardy MS) that the school serves lives on a metro line. MacArthur is not a great location, but it's much better than Intelsat for that boundary.
His goal ostensibly would be to make it a city-wide school in Ward 3, primarily for OOB students, so that Palisades kids can go back to J-R because DCPS is starting a new boundary study. However, I don’t think that’s his real goal because this proposal is so sloppy and ill thought through that it is fundamentally unserious. So his main goal is probably to placate Palisades families to make it look like he’s fighting for them by throwing out this pathetic Hail Mary that lacks conviction. I’m sure Trish Duncan has been chatting with him.
I don't think his plan helps anyone except the Foxhall NIMBYs (who have fought tooth-and-nail to keep public school kids out of their neighborhood) and the LAB School (who would get to unify their campus). It certainly doesn't help public school families in the Palisades - or almost anywhere else in the Hardy feeder pattern - as the Intelsat location is in a very different part of the city. The plan makes so little sense that most people assume that there is an ulterior motive driving this.
There would be a public elementary school on the former Hardy site, and families from Palisades could likely choose from J-R, the new high school, Ellington or one of the downtown schools.
What downtown schools? Ellington is a highly selective arts school.
Intelsat is virtually next to J-R. The plan makes no sense.
Anonymous
10/17/2023 15:13
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t DCPS actually have excess school capacity? It’s just not in Ward 3.
Yes. Frumin is trumpeting the Intelsat because it is metro accessible. But that's not exactly a plus when no one in the boundary (Hardy MS) that the school serves lives on a metro line. MacArthur is not a great location, but it's much better than Intelsat for that boundary.
His goal ostensibly would be to make it a city-wide school in Ward 3, primarily for OOB students, so that Palisades kids can go back to J-R because DCPS is starting a new boundary study. However, I don’t think that’s his real goal because this proposal is so sloppy and ill thought through that it is fundamentally unserious. So his main goal is probably to placate Palisades families to make it look like he’s fighting for them by throwing out this pathetic Hail Mary that lacks conviction. I’m sure Trish Duncan has been chatting with him.
I don't think his plan helps anyone except the Foxhall NIMBYs (who have fought tooth-and-nail to keep public school kids out of their neighborhood) and the LAB School (who would get to unify their campus). It certainly doesn't help public school families in the Palisades - or almost anywhere else in the Hardy feeder pattern - as the Intelsat location is in a very different part of the city. The plan makes so little sense that most people assume that there is an ulterior motive driving this.
There would be a public elementary school on the former Hardy site, and families from Palisades could likely choose from J-R, the new high school, Ellington or one of the downtown schools.
Exactly. Moving MacArthur to Van Ness is unambiguously positive for everyone in Palisades.
You either don’t know where J-R and Intelsat are or are bad at sarcasm.
Anonymous
10/17/2023 13:38
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t DCPS actually have excess school capacity? It’s just not in Ward 3.
Yes. Frumin is trumpeting the Intelsat because it is metro accessible. But that's not exactly a plus when no one in the boundary (Hardy MS) that the school serves lives on a metro line. MacArthur is not a great location, but it's much better than Intelsat for that boundary.
His goal ostensibly would be to make it a city-wide school in Ward 3, primarily for OOB students, so that Palisades kids can go back to J-R because DCPS is starting a new boundary study. However, I don’t think that’s his real goal because this proposal is so sloppy and ill thought through that it is fundamentally unserious. So his main goal is probably to placate Palisades families to make it look like he’s fighting for them by throwing out this pathetic Hail Mary that lacks conviction. I’m sure Trish Duncan has been chatting with him.
Is Frumin capable of doing ANYTHING that will benefit Ward 3 and not “citywide”? I think he filed for the wrong office.
Anonymous
10/17/2023 13:16
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t DCPS actually have excess school capacity? It’s just not in Ward 3.
Yes. Frumin is trumpeting the Intelsat because it is metro accessible. But that's not exactly a plus when no one in the boundary (Hardy MS) that the school serves lives on a metro line. MacArthur is not a great location, but it's much better than Intelsat for that boundary.
His goal ostensibly would be to make it a city-wide school in Ward 3, primarily for OOB students, so that Palisades kids can go back to J-R because DCPS is starting a new boundary study. However, I don’t think that’s his real goal because this proposal is so sloppy and ill thought through that it is fundamentally unserious. So his main goal is probably to placate Palisades families to make it look like he’s fighting for them by throwing out this pathetic Hail Mary that lacks conviction. I’m sure Trish Duncan has been chatting with him.
I don't think his plan helps anyone except the Foxhall NIMBYs (who have fought tooth-and-nail to keep public school kids out of their neighborhood) and the LAB School (who would get to unify their campus). It certainly doesn't help public school families in the Palisades - or almost anywhere else in the Hardy feeder pattern - as the Intelsat location is in a very different part of the city. The plan makes so little sense that most people assume that there is an ulterior motive driving this.
There would be a public elementary school on the former Hardy site, and families from Palisades could likely choose from J-R, the new high school, Ellington or one of the downtown schools.
Exactly. Moving MacArthur to Van Ness is unambiguously positive for everyone in Palisades.
Anonymous
10/17/2023 13:06
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t DCPS actually have excess school capacity? It’s just not in Ward 3.
Yes. Frumin is trumpeting the Intelsat because it is metro accessible. But that's not exactly a plus when no one in the boundary (Hardy MS) that the school serves lives on a metro line. MacArthur is not a great location, but it's much better than Intelsat for that boundary.
Then don't live in Palisades. You all chose to live there knowing it wasn't metro accessible and knowing it wasn't easy to get to any of the public high schools.
Anonymous
10/17/2023 13:05
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t DCPS actually have excess school capacity? It’s just not in Ward 3.
Yes. Frumin is trumpeting the Intelsat because it is metro accessible. But that's not exactly a plus when no one in the boundary (Hardy MS) that the school serves lives on a metro line. MacArthur is not a great location, but it's much better than Intelsat for that boundary.
His goal ostensibly would be to make it a city-wide school in Ward 3, primarily for OOB students, so that Palisades kids can go back to J-R because DCPS is starting a new boundary study. However, I don’t think that’s his real goal because this proposal is so sloppy and ill thought through that it is fundamentally unserious. So his main goal is probably to placate Palisades families to make it look like he’s fighting for them by throwing out this pathetic Hail Mary that lacks conviction. I’m sure Trish Duncan has been chatting with him.
I don't think his plan helps anyone except the Foxhall NIMBYs (who have fought tooth-and-nail to keep public school kids out of their neighborhood) and the LAB School (who would get to unify their campus). It certainly doesn't help public school families in the Palisades - or almost anywhere else in the Hardy feeder pattern - as the Intelsat location is in a very different part of the city. The plan makes so little sense that most people assume that there is an ulterior motive driving this.
There would be a public elementary school on the former Hardy site, and families from Palisades could likely choose from J-R, the new high school, Ellington or one of the downtown schools.
Anonymous
10/17/2023 12:48
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
$35-40 million a year in rent plus high ongoing occupancy costs and $180 million or more to complete the renovation to make it a school site. Not impossible but very, very expensive.
Anonymous
10/17/2023 12:13
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t DCPS actually have excess school capacity? It’s just not in Ward 3.
Yes. Frumin is trumpeting the Intelsat because it is metro accessible. But that's not exactly a plus when no one in the boundary (Hardy MS) that the school serves lives on a metro line. MacArthur is not a great location, but it's much better than Intelsat for that boundary.
His goal ostensibly would be to make it a city-wide school in Ward 3, primarily for OOB students, so that Palisades kids can go back to J-R because DCPS is starting a new boundary study. However, I don’t think that’s his real goal because this proposal is so sloppy and ill thought through that it is fundamentally unserious. So his main goal is probably to placate Palisades families to make it look like he’s fighting for them by throwing out this pathetic Hail Mary that lacks conviction. I’m sure Trish Duncan has been chatting with him.
I don't think his plan helps anyone except the Foxhall NIMBYs (who have fought tooth-and-nail to keep public school kids out of their neighborhood) and the LAB School (who would get to unify their campus). It certainly doesn't help public school families in the Palisades - or almost anywhere else in the Hardy feeder pattern - as the Intelsat location is in a very different part of the city. The plan makes so little sense that most people assume that there is an ulterior motive driving this.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 23:23
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t DCPS actually have excess school capacity? It’s just not in Ward 3.
Yes. Frumin is trumpeting the Intelsat because it is metro accessible. But that's not exactly a plus when no one in the boundary (Hardy MS) that the school serves lives on a metro line. MacArthur is not a great location, but it's much better than Intelsat for that boundary.
His goal ostensibly would be to make it a city-wide school in Ward 3, primarily for OOB students, so that Palisades kids can go back to J-R because DCPS is starting a new boundary study. However, I don’t think that’s his real goal because this proposal is so sloppy and ill thought through that it is fundamentally unserious. So his main goal is probably to placate Palisades families to make it look like he’s fighting for them by throwing out this pathetic Hail Mary that lacks conviction. I’m sure Trish Duncan has been chatting with him.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 22:34
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t DCPS actually have excess school capacity? It’s just not in Ward 3.
Yes. Frumin is trumpeting the Intelsat because it is metro accessible. But that's not exactly a plus when no one in the boundary (Hardy MS) that the school serves lives on a metro line. MacArthur is not a great location, but it's much better than Intelsat for that boundary.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 20:59
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Doesn’t DCPS actually have excess school capacity? It’s just not in Ward 3.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 20:47
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Van Ness commercial district is in desperate need of private sector investment and the dollars they bring with them. The Intelsat building should be filled with potential employers of UDC students . Why can’t our elected leaders develop a package of incentives to make this happen? They always come up with the worst ideas.
How many UDC students got hired when Intelsat employed 1500 employees across the street from UDC?
You’re right. Let’s not even try.
Merge UDC with the University of Maryland and then you're talking. But on its own UDC will struggle to play grads at many employers other than the DC government.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 16:24
Subject: Intelsat Building Proposal by CM Matt Frumin (Connecticut Ave/Van Ness)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Van Ness commercial district is in desperate need of private sector investment and the dollars they bring with them. The Intelsat building should be filled with potential employers of UDC students . Why can’t our elected leaders develop a package of incentives to make this happen? They always come up with the worst ideas.
Another great idea. Let's give businesses a tax break when DC needs tax revenue.
You will need a hefty incentive to get a private company interested in redeveloping property covered by historic preservation. It's simply not worth the headache.
So instead of attracting an employer who will pay some tax and create jobs to hire UDC grads who will also pay income taxes your solution is to permanently take the property off the tax rolls by turning it into a DCPS school? This is progressive logic at its finest. Sadly, our Council which is made up of “community activists” will probably love your idea. The Ward could have elected someone with actual commercial real estate experience in the last election. But, now we re stuck with someone who nobody is quite sure what his professional background is.
This agree