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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts about W&M dropping?

It’s the most expensive public college in the nation for in state students. 60k for OOS as a public with minimal OOS aid. And it’s not particularly diverse or socially mobile (I mean, #280 in social mobility for a public). And it doesn’t have a lot of pell grant kids. IOW, it may be public, but it’s still a rich kids school (or UMC DCUM school). Wonky rich kids from wealthier areas of VA. But, affluent all the same. It was never going to do well under the new DEI formulation.

It’s ranked 6th in undergrad teaching, which is what I care about.

—parent of a WM kid.

DP. I think it's been falling in desirability for a very long time and the rankings are starting to reflect that.

University of Miami down from 55 to 67. Anyone with insight to that drop?

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Anonymous wrote:UN finally overtook UVA. It was just a matter of time. Next year UF will probably equal/pass UVA as well

UVA moved up from 25 to 24

Or is it down to 27? Hmmmmm….

Oh stop. Be glad that your state or a neighboring state has such gray offerings for your own family

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Anonymous wrote:UC Davis is very hot. I get that the DCUM crowd isn't aware, but it's a very good school.

Someone is apparently very triggered that their kid at Emory might get their finance jobs taken from Davis students.

Except that Davis students won't be swooping in to take internships from Emory students due to US News rankings changes. The ranking has gotten further and further from reflecting prestige in the employment world.

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Anonymous wrote:He new rankings are a joke. Every state flagship is now a top 50. UC Davis at 28.

This, yall really believe UCDavis is peer schools with Emory, WashU, Carnegie Mellon???
Like be for real! This is horrible, only elite schools should be on the T30. Private schools don't know which students are Pell grant students it's unfair to judge them on that. They provide great financial aid to the Pell grant students they do have yet don't get rewarded for that.

Basically takes a 3.9 GPA to get into UC Davis these days. Attracts the same caliber as Emory, WashU and CMU so yes, it isn’t ridiculous to think it is a peer school. Your info about Davis is likely outdated.

A 3.9 weighted is not the same as a 3.9 unweighted. Also those 3 schools sat scores are 1500+.

The weighted admission stats for UC Davis are well above a 4.0 so not sure what you are getting at. And look at how many students actually submitted test score to these schools. Davis obviously doesn’t consider them. Around 40%+ of students enrolled did not.

you incredibly obtuse. 70% of Emory students submitted test scores don't know about the other schools. However, top banks, consulting firms, and even tech companies will never recruit from UC Davis, I hope you know that. So please enjoy the delusions.

According to the common data set 64% of admitted Emory students submitted test scores and 36% did not. And you’d be dead wrong about recruiting. I have no skin in this but your information is not current.

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Anonymous wrote:The more the rankings weight social mobility over things like class size (which was eliminated!) and entering student stats (measure of the strength of the peer group), the less relevant they are as a way to assess the quality of education or experience a student will have, which is what people look to these rankings for. I find the new methodology to be disappointing.

+1. US News is slowly making its premier ranking a poor product and thus less and less relevant to college list decision-making, which was tangential to begin with. Now it just looks dumb.

Aw. So your favored school dropped?

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Washu and NYU down 10 spots. I don't understand that.

Irrelevant, I know, but I never understood how the two became such hot commodities four, five years ago. This year no one has mentioned Wash U. Guess it’s the “Northeastern phenomenon “. Wealthy privates hire marketing gurus and unfortunately our kids get suckered in.

Was expecting Yale to drop out of top 5. Maybe next year.

Should USNWR rank the service academies like they do? They must very loosely fit into USNWR's definition of a liberal arts college based on their degree granting but it is a big stretch to compare the Naval Academy with Amherst or Swarthmore. I'm surprised the service academies award at least half of their degrees in the liberal arts fields of study. Otherwise they'd be in the USNWR Regional Colleges category, where schools focus on undergraduate education but grant fewer than half their degrees in liberal arts disciplines.

I glanced at WSJ and Forbes and it didn't look like they rank the military academies in their combined rankings.

Anonymous wrote:UC Davis is very hot. I get that the DCUM crowd isn't aware, but it's a very good school.

Someone is apparently very triggered that their kid at Emory might get their finance jobs taken from Davis students.

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Anonymous wrote:UN finally overtook UVA. It was just a matter of time. Next year UF will probably equal/pass UVA as well

UVA moved up from 25 to 24

Or is it down to 27? Hmmmmm….

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame remains in top 20 despite the constant chatter that they will be knocked down lol.

It will as the swell to get of legacy admissions continues.

LOL just like every other elite top 20. It's not going anywhere below where it is. It hasn't for decades. I know that triggers you lol.

It literally dropped 2 spots to 20, it can easily drop another next year.

I can see ND falling out of the top 20 next year.

You said that about this year lol.

Anonymous wrote:Thoughts about W&M dropping?

It’s the most expensive public college in the nation for in state students. 60k for OOS as a public with minimal OOS aid. And it’s not particularly diverse or socially mobile (I mean, #280 in social mobility for a public). And it doesn’t have a lot of pell grant kids. IOW, it may be public, but it’s still a rich kids school (or UMC DCUM school). Wonky rich kids from wealthier areas of VA. But, affluent all the same. It was never going to do well under the new DEI formulation.

It’s ranked 6th in undergrad teaching, which is what I care about.

—parent of a WM kid.

UC Davis is very hot. I get that the DCUM crowd isn't aware, but it's a very good school.

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Anonymous wrote:The more the rankings weight social mobility over things like class size (which was eliminated!) and entering student stats (measure of the strength of the peer group), the less relevant they are as a way to assess the quality of education or experience a student will have, which is what people look to these rankings for. I find the new methodology to be disappointing.

+1. US News is slowly making its premier ranking a poor product and thus less and less relevant to college list decision-making, which was tangential to begin with. Now it just looks dumb.

Anyone can look up that information if it is important to them. For that matter, all the top 25 schools are the same--just shifted around. It's funny how triggered y'all are.