Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 07:57     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

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Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. I live on a DC street that has experienced an exponential growth in cut through traffic due to the weekday closure of Beach Dr plus the reduction in drive lanes on Connecticut Ave. A lot of this is rideshare drovers and Amazon/fed ex drivers who will never be eligible to take metro

This is a narrow east-west residential street and it’s utter bullshit that we suffer arterial-road levels of new traffic, all because of 45 hardcore MAMILs who who want to get their miles in on Beach Drive on a Tuesday at 2:30 pm l


Closing major roads to cars just forces traffic onto smaller roads that were never designed for it


This has been proven to be false, time after time after time.


Cite one, single DDOT study from the last 10 years that supports your claim.* All of us who live in the neighborhoods east and west of RCP in the District will be very excited to review this data that we heretofore have never had access to.
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* the traffic study undertaken by DDOT must not include any study conducted between March 15, 2020 and August 2021. It must compare pre-lockdown traffic patterns and vehicle counts -- so pre-March 2020 -- to some point in time post-Beach Dr. closure.


Cite one study of where it did happen.


Have you ever lived near a street that’s suddenly been closed? The traffic doesn’t just magically disappear into thin air. It just goes around.


No, that's not a study. That's anecdote.


Do you think it’s also some unknowable mystery what happens to the water when you dam up a river?

We don’t need to wait around for some dipshit with a degree in sociology from garbage state university to render his opinion in order to understand commonplace phenomena.


LOL. Who needs evidence when you’ve got vibes?
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 07:37     Subject: Re:So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

Keep Beach drive closed! No road subsidies for crazy speeding MD commuters until they pay DC taxes!! We don't want any more traffic violence from MD!
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 07:33     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

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Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. I live on a DC street that has experienced an exponential growth in cut through traffic due to the weekday closure of Beach Dr plus the reduction in drive lanes on Connecticut Ave. A lot of this is rideshare drovers and Amazon/fed ex drivers who will never be eligible to take metro

This is a narrow east-west residential street and it’s utter bullshit that we suffer arterial-road levels of new traffic, all because of 45 hardcore MAMILs who who want to get their miles in on Beach Drive on a Tuesday at 2:30 pm l


Closing major roads to cars just forces traffic onto smaller roads that were never designed for it


This has been proven to be false, time after time after time.


Cite one, single DDOT study from the last 10 years that supports your claim.* All of us who live in the neighborhoods east and west of RCP in the District will be very excited to review this data that we heretofore have never had access to.
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* the traffic study undertaken by DDOT must not include any study conducted between March 15, 2020 and August 2021. It must compare pre-lockdown traffic patterns and vehicle counts -- so pre-March 2020 -- to some point in time post-Beach Dr. closure.


Cite one study of where it did happen.


Have you ever lived near a street that’s suddenly been closed? The traffic doesn’t just magically disappear into thin air. It just goes around.


No, that's not a study. That's anecdote.


Do you think it’s also some unknowable mystery what happens to the water when you dam up a river?

We don’t need to wait around for some dipshit with a degree in sociology from garbage state university to render his opinion in order to understand commonplace phenomena.


I wonder whether you are so full of hatred and contempt for people in real life, or whether it's just something you do when you're anonymous on the internet.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 23:45     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


Please cite literally any source for those claims. I'd be especially surprised if drivers in Ward 3 near Beach Drive are disproportionately black.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 21:30     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

They need to add interchanges on Beach Drive
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 21:28     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


You don't get out much if you actually believe this.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 21:22     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

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Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. I live on a DC street that has experienced an exponential growth in cut through traffic due to the weekday closure of Beach Dr plus the reduction in drive lanes on Connecticut Ave. A lot of this is rideshare drovers and Amazon/fed ex drivers who will never be eligible to take metro

This is a narrow east-west residential street and it’s utter bullshit that we suffer arterial-road levels of new traffic, all because of 45 hardcore MAMILs who who want to get their miles in on Beach Drive on a Tuesday at 2:30 pm l


Closing major roads to cars just forces traffic onto smaller roads that were never designed for it


This has been proven to be false, time after time after time.


Cite one, single DDOT study from the last 10 years that supports your claim.* All of us who live in the neighborhoods east and west of RCP in the District will be very excited to review this data that we heretofore have never had access to.
----
* the traffic study undertaken by DDOT must not include any study conducted between March 15, 2020 and August 2021. It must compare pre-lockdown traffic patterns and vehicle counts -- so pre-March 2020 -- to some point in time post-Beach Dr. closure.


Cite one study of where it did happen.


Have you ever lived near a street that’s suddenly been closed? The traffic doesn’t just magically disappear into thin air. It just goes around.


No, that's not a study. That's anecdote.


Do you think it’s also some unknowable mystery what happens to the water when you dam up a river?

We don’t need to wait around for some dipshit with a degree in sociology from garbage state university to render his opinion in order to understand commonplace phenomena.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 21:00     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


It’s worse than that. It’s 100 white guys from Ward 3 telling hundreds of thousands of black and brown people in PG and Montgomery counties who need to go to work to support their families that they can’t use their roads.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 20:34     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


People on bikes are apparently even more invisible when they're black. Go figure.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 20:33     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. I live on a DC street that has experienced an exponential growth in cut through traffic due to the weekday closure of Beach Dr plus the reduction in drive lanes on Connecticut Ave. A lot of this is rideshare drovers and Amazon/fed ex drivers who will never be eligible to take metro

This is a narrow east-west residential street and it’s utter bullshit that we suffer arterial-road levels of new traffic, all because of 45 hardcore MAMILs who who want to get their miles in on Beach Drive on a Tuesday at 2:30 pm l


Closing major roads to cars just forces traffic onto smaller roads that were never designed for it


This has been proven to be false, time after time after time.


Cite one, single DDOT study from the last 10 years that supports your claim.* All of us who live in the neighborhoods east and west of RCP in the District will be very excited to review this data that we heretofore have never had access to.
----
* the traffic study undertaken by DDOT must not include any study conducted between March 15, 2020 and August 2021. It must compare pre-lockdown traffic patterns and vehicle counts -- so pre-March 2020 -- to some point in time post-Beach Dr. closure.


Cite one study of where it did happen.


Have you ever lived near a street that’s suddenly been closed? The traffic doesn’t just magically disappear into thin air. It just goes around.


No, that's not a study. That's anecdote.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 20:17     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. I live on a DC street that has experienced an exponential growth in cut through traffic due to the weekday closure of Beach Dr plus the reduction in drive lanes on Connecticut Ave. A lot of this is rideshare drovers and Amazon/fed ex drivers who will never be eligible to take metro

This is a narrow east-west residential street and it’s utter bullshit that we suffer arterial-road levels of new traffic, all because of 45 hardcore MAMILs who who want to get their miles in on Beach Drive on a Tuesday at 2:30 pm l


Closing major roads to cars just forces traffic onto smaller roads that were never designed for it


This has been proven to be false, time after time after time.


Cite one, single DDOT study from the last 10 years that supports your claim.* All of us who live in the neighborhoods east and west of RCP in the District will be very excited to review this data that we heretofore have never had access to.
----
* the traffic study undertaken by DDOT must not include any study conducted between March 15, 2020 and August 2021. It must compare pre-lockdown traffic patterns and vehicle counts -- so pre-March 2020 -- to some point in time post-Beach Dr. closure.


Cite one study of where it did happen.


Have you ever lived near a street that’s suddenly been closed? The traffic doesn’t just magically disappear into thin air. It just goes around.


People don’t spend $40,000 on a car and then sudddnly decide to give up on driving because the city closed a street.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 20:16     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 20:13     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 19:48     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


Biking policy in a nutshell
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 19:47     Subject: So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. I live on a DC street that has experienced an exponential growth in cut through traffic due to the weekday closure of Beach Dr plus the reduction in drive lanes on Connecticut Ave. A lot of this is rideshare drovers and Amazon/fed ex drivers who will never be eligible to take metro

This is a narrow east-west residential street and it’s utter bullshit that we suffer arterial-road levels of new traffic, all because of 45 hardcore MAMILs who who want to get their miles in on Beach Drive on a Tuesday at 2:30 pm l


Closing major roads to cars just forces traffic onto smaller roads that were never designed for it


This has been proven to be false, time after time after time.


Cite one, single DDOT study from the last 10 years that supports your claim.* All of us who live in the neighborhoods east and west of RCP in the District will be very excited to review this data that we heretofore have never had access to.
----
* the traffic study undertaken by DDOT must not include any study conducted between March 15, 2020 and August 2021. It must compare pre-lockdown traffic patterns and vehicle counts -- so pre-March 2020 -- to some point in time post-Beach Dr. closure.


Cite one study of where it did happen.


Have you ever lived near a street that’s suddenly been closed? The traffic doesn’t just magically disappear into thin air. It just goes around.