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Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine spending my time posting on a thread about an artist I don’t like or don’t respect. What an odd way to spend one’s time!

So the answer is no I can’t just dislike her without someone making a dig. Gotcha.
Well you are proving OPs elitist theory correct!

I don’t think it’s weird that you dislike her, that’s fine. I think it’s weird that you hang out on internet message boards to argue your dislike of her and demand people “prove” her worth to you. It’s fine if you don’t get it. I don’t get lots of things many people like, including most professional sports. I don’t go on message boards demanding sports fans explain to me why they like it.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so funny that DCUM does not realize their privilege and think it’s normal to spend $5k + and fly to a different city or country to see a concert.

It is not normal! Just as it’s not normal to go attend Wimbledon or the Met Gala.

It’s no different than the Super Bowl or World Series. That’s the level this concert is.

Well no, its not.

Agreed. The demand is higher.

Demand may be higher (fools), but level is much lower.

Not sure what you mean about level, but I also detect some misogyny in this.

Gee, is it racist too?

Lol! I’m sure that’s next.

She wrote this about the state of American politics but couched in HS drama in 2018 and I have highlighted the best lyrics imo.

You know I adore you, I'm crazier for you
Than I was at 16, lost in a film scene
Waving homecoming queens, marching band playing
I'm lost in the lights
American glory faded before me
Now I'm feeling hopeless, ripped up my prom dress
Running through rose thorns, I saw the scoreboard
And ran for my life (ah)
No cameras catch my pageant smile
I counted days, I counted miles
To see you there, to see you there
It's been a long time coming, but
It's you and me, that's my whole world
They whisper in the hallway, "She's a bad, bad girl" (okay)
The whole school is rolling fake dice
You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes
It's you and me, there's nothing like this
Miss Americana and The Heartbreak Prince (okay)
We're so sad, we paint the town blue
Voted most likely to run away with you
My team is losing, battered and bruising
I see the high fives between the bad guys
Leave with my head hung, you are the only one
Who seems to care
American stories burning before me
I'm feeling helpless, the damsels are depressed
Boys will be boys then, where are the wise men?
Darling, I'm scared (ah)
No cameras catch my muffled cries
I counted days, I counted miles
To see you there, to see you there
And now the storm is coming, but
It's you and me, that's my whole world
They whisper in the hallway, "She's a bad, bad girl" (okay)
The whole school is rolling fake dice
You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes
It's you and me, there's nothing like this
Miss Americana and The Heartbreak Prince (okay)
We're so sad, we paint the town blue
Voted most likely to run away with you
And I don't want you to (go), I don't really wanna (fight)
'Cause nobody's gonna (win), I think you should come home
And I don't want you to (go), I don't really wanna (fight)
'Cause nobody's gonna (win), I think you should come home
And I don't want you to (go), I don't really wanna (fight)
'Cause nobody's gonna (win), just thought you should know
And I'll never let you (go) 'cause I know this is a (fight)
That someday we're gonna (win)
It's you and me, that's my whole world
They whisper in the hallway, "She's a bad, bad girl"
Oh, I just thought you should know (you should know)
It's you and me, there's nothing like this (like this)
Miss Americana and The Heartbreak Prince (okay)
We're so sad, we paint the town blue (paint it blue)
Voted most likely to run away with you
And I don't want you to (go), I don't really wanna (fight)
'Cause nobody's gonna (win), I think you should come home
And I'll never let you (go) 'cause I know this is a (fight)
That someday we're gonna (win), just thought you should know
It's you and me, that's my whole world
They whisper in the hallway, "She's a bad, bad girl"
She's a bad, bad girl

Living for the thrill of
Hitting you where it hurts
Give me back my girlhood
It was mine first

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Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when this crap was done by U2 (pop mart) and they made fun of the consumerist nature of it all. Now everyone completely buys in like little lemmings.

I’ll add that of course Taylor is in so many many ways better than u2 and no one will ever understand “unless you were there” but at least U2 understood the irony of how what they did was pure show biz and how consumerism was destroying the world at the same time.
You never get that with Taylor the understand that consumerism has a negative effect on the world.

U2's lyrical content was never adolescent as is most of TS teeny bobber stuff either.
I get that the moms have fun watching their daughters have fun.
But at this crazy price point?
Ridiculous.

I guarantee you’ve never listen to the majority of her music that’s not on radio play. Hardly teenybopper lyrics. I do not consider myself a Swifty, but I am a middle-aged woman who started looking more into her music more when my kids started to really liked her. You should see all the TikTok and Instagram videos of people from all sorts of life, even famous rappers, being like damn that woman can write. If you’re judging her by, shake it off or love story, you don’t understand what Taylor Swift is about.

Specifically, what lyrics or song can you point to?

[Verse 1]
How's one to know?
I'd meet you where the spirit meets the bones
In a faith-forgotten land
In from the snow
Your touch brought forth an incandescent glow
Tarnished but so grand

[Pre-Chorus]
And the old widow goes to the stone every day
But I don't, I just sit here and wait
Grieving for the living

[Chorus]
Oh, goddamn
My pain fits in the palm of your freezing hand
Taking mine, but it's been promised to another
Oh, I can't
Stop you putting roots in my dreamland
My house of stone, your ivy grows
And now I'm covered in you

[Verse 2]
I wish to know
The fatal flaw that makes you long to be
Magnificently cursed
He's in the room
Your opal eyes are all I wish to see
He wants what's only yours


[Verse 3]
Clover blooms in the fields
Spring breaks loose, the time is near
What would he do if he found us out?
Crescent moon, coast is clear
Spring breaks loose, but so does fear
He's gonna burn this house to the ground
How's one to know?
I'd live and die for moments that we stole
On begged and borrowed time
So tell me to run
Or dare to sit and watch what we'll become
And drink my husband's wine

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine spending my time posting on a thread about an artist I don’t like or don’t respect. What an odd way to spend one’s time!

So the answer is no I can’t just dislike her without someone making a dig. Gotcha.
Well you are proving OPs elitist theory correct!

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine spending my time posting on a thread about an artist I don’t like or don’t respect. What an odd way to spend one’s time!

+1 😂🫶

I can’t imagine spending my time posting on a thread about an artist I don’t like or don’t respect. What an odd way to spend one’s time!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when this crap was done by U2 (pop mart) and they made fun of the consumerist nature of it all. Now everyone completely buys in like little lemmings.

I’ll add that of course Taylor is in so many many ways better than u2 and no one will ever understand “unless you were there” but at least U2 understood the irony of how what they did was pure show biz and how consumerism was destroying the world at the same time.
You never get that with Taylor the understand that consumerism has a negative effect on the world.

U2's lyrical content was never adolescent as is most of TS teeny bobber stuff either.
I get that the moms have fun watching their daughters have fun.
But at this crazy price point?
Ridiculous.

I guarantee you’ve never listen to the majority of her music that’s not on radio play. Hardly teenybopper lyrics. I do not consider myself a Swifty, but I am a middle-aged woman who started looking more into her music more when my kids started to really liked her. You should see all the TikTok and Instagram videos of people from all sorts of life, even famous rappers, being like damn that woman can write. If you’re judging her by, shake it off or love story, you don’t understand what Taylor Swift is about.

Specifically, what lyrics or song can you point to?

Not just songs, but albums. They are also better understood when you know their context.

Folklore
Evermore
Reputation
1989 - Ryan Adams covered this album and this is what made me think differently about her writing and held a mirror to how I dismissed her bc she is a young blonde girl. (I am an older blonde girl.)

I don’t like the way she stretches out a very simple melody to match her lyrics. She will use the same note in the beginning or middle of a phrase repeatedly and then get to a new note finally after she is finished saying her lyrics. She may be good at lyrics but she isn’t good at the melody. So whatever she has to say gets lost for me in the over rushed one note part of the song. It does make it seem like she is telling you a secret which may draw you in but musically I find it boring.
I hope you can accept that I have a different opinion and that you can enjoy her.

Ok.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when this crap was done by U2 (pop mart) and they made fun of the consumerist nature of it all. Now everyone completely buys in like little lemmings.

I’ll add that of course Taylor is in so many many ways better than u2 and no one will ever understand “unless you were there” but at least U2 understood the irony of how what they did was pure show biz and how consumerism was destroying the world at the same time.
You never get that with Taylor the understand that consumerism has a negative effect on the world.

U2's lyrical content was never adolescent as is most of TS teeny bobber stuff either.
I get that the moms have fun watching their daughters have fun.
But at this crazy price point?
Ridiculous.

I guarantee you’ve never listen to the majority of her music that’s not on radio play. Hardly teenybopper lyrics. I do not consider myself a Swifty, but I am a middle-aged woman who started looking more into her music more when my kids started to really liked her. You should see all the TikTok and Instagram videos of people from all sorts of life, even famous rappers, being like damn that woman can write. If you’re judging her by, shake it off or love story, you don’t understand what Taylor Swift is about.

Specifically, what lyrics or song can you point to?

Not just songs, but albums. They are also better understood when you know their context.

Folklore
Evermore
Reputation
1989 - Ryan Adams covered this album and this is what made me think differently about her writing and held a mirror to how I dismissed her bc she is a young blonde girl. (I am an older blonde girl.)

I don’t like the way she stretches out a very simple melody to match her lyrics. She will use the same note in the beginning or middle of a phrase repeatedly and then get to a new note finally after she is finished saying her lyrics. She may be good at lyrics but she isn’t good at the melody. So whatever she has to say gets lost for me in the over rushed one note part of the song. It does make it seem like she is telling you a secret which may draw you in but musically I find it boring.
I hope you can accept that I have a different opinion and that you can enjoy her.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so funny that DCUM does not realize their privilege and think it’s normal to spend $5k + and fly to a different city or country to see a concert.

It is not normal! Just as it’s not normal to go attend Wimbledon or the Met Gala.

It’s no different than the Super Bowl or World Series. That’s the level this concert is.

Well no, its not.

I'd argue it's bigger than the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl is one event. She's selling out Super Bowl sized crowds multiple nights in every city she tours.

And I see that what constitutes value for you is how much money her tour brings in.
It is useless for me to debate you any further.

I think the problem is that someone above said she isn't at the same 'level' as the SB and it wasn't clear what level we are measuring.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when this crap was done by U2 (pop mart) and they made fun of the consumerist nature of it all. Now everyone completely buys in like little lemmings.

I’ll add that of course Taylor is in so many many ways better than u2 and no one will ever understand “unless you were there” but at least U2 understood the irony of how what they did was pure show biz and how consumerism was destroying the world at the same time.
You never get that with Taylor the understand that consumerism has a negative effect on the world.

U2's lyrical content was never adolescent as is most of TS teeny bobber stuff either.
I get that the moms have fun watching their daughters have fun.
But at this crazy price point?
Ridiculous.

I guarantee you’ve never listen to the majority of her music that’s not on radio play. Hardly teenybopper lyrics. I do not consider myself a Swifty, but I am a middle-aged woman who started looking more into her music more when my kids started to really liked her. You should see all the TikTok and Instagram videos of people from all sorts of life, even famous rappers, being like damn that woman can write. If you’re judging her by, shake it off or love story, you don’t understand what Taylor Swift is about.

Specifically, what lyrics or song can you point to?

Not just songs, but albums. They are also better understood when you know their context.

Folklore
Evermore
Reputation
1989 - Ryan Adams covered this album and this is what made me think differently about her writing and held a mirror to how I dismissed her bc she is a young blonde girl. (I am an older blonde girl.)

Anonymous wrote:NP

I'm old, but I think the lyrics for Anti-Hero are great.

That is a co-written song (Jack Antonoff) who is involved with co- writing a lot of her material, but ok.

NP

I'm old, but I think the lyrics for Anti-Hero are great.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when this crap was done by U2 (pop mart) and they made fun of the consumerist nature of it all. Now everyone completely buys in like little lemmings.

I’ll add that of course Taylor is in so many many ways better than u2 and no one will ever understand “unless you were there” but at least U2 understood the irony of how what they did was pure show biz and how consumerism was destroying the world at the same time.
You never get that with Taylor the understand that consumerism has a negative effect on the world.

U2's lyrical content was never adolescent as is most of TS teeny bobber stuff either.
I get that the moms have fun watching their daughters have fun.
But at this crazy price point?
Ridiculous.

I guarantee you’ve never listen to the majority of her music that’s not on radio play. Hardly teenybopper lyrics. I do not consider myself a Swifty, but I am a middle-aged woman who started looking more into her music more when my kids started to really liked her. You should see all the TikTok and Instagram videos of people from all sorts of life, even famous rappers, being like damn that woman can write. If you’re judging her by, shake it off or love story, you don’t understand what Taylor Swift is about.

Specifically, what lyrics or song can you point to?