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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

No way. VCU is far below UMW. It's a school for druggie artist wannabees.

What do you think UMW is? It's basically open enrollment and still can't get numbers it wants

Nah. That’s not accurate. UMW attracts and enrolls good students. It’s self-selecting.

Its enrollment is shrinking and not by choice

The pandemic cratered enrollment at every single college and university in the country. Radford University lost 35% of its enrollment for two years. This is not a reflection on the school but a reflection of the pandemic. You'd know this if you worked in higher education. But you don't, so you spout off BS like this instead.

UVA, VT, W&M, JMU and GMU all had higher freshmen enrollments in 2022-23 than 2018-19. UMW shrank

Let the numbers speak for themselves -- just select the relevant fields in SCHEV to do the comparisons. It shows that overall applications to UMW (not just enrollment) this year are down considerably from 2018 and that's NOT the case for UVA, VT, W&M and JMU -- some major increases there. Why this is, I don't know, although perhaps test optional has caused some students to focus on the more selective schools. CNU appears to have remained more or less static apart from a one-year dip.

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B8_Report_new.asp

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

No way. VCU is far below UMW. It's a school for druggie artist wannabees.

What do you think UMW is? It's basically open enrollment and still can't get numbers it wants

Nah. That’s not accurate. UMW attracts and enrolls good students. It’s self-selecting.

Its enrollment is shrinking and not by choice

The pandemic cratered enrollment at every single college and university in the country. Radford University lost 35% of its enrollment for two years. This is not a reflection on the school but a reflection of the pandemic. You'd know this if you worked in higher education. But you don't, so you spout off BS like this instead.

UVA, VT, W&M, JMU and GMU all had higher freshmen enrollments in 2022-23 than 2018-19. UMW shrank

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

Yea I disagree with this. The admissions rate for JMU is just as high and for VCU it’s even higher. More than 9 out of 10
VCU applicants are accepted, and the profile of VCU students is actually lower. These are facts, not opinions, easily verifiable on line. It’s not helpful to post misinformation.

+1 UMW's best fit is as a safety for students who'd like to go to W&M. That was my DD and those were the only VA schools she applied to.

Why UMW rather than CNU?

CNU's vibe is very modern and business feeling. Its campus feels very engineered, with new buildings but with 'traditional architecture.' There's a "career-prep" vibe to the school.

Most of the kids that love W&M love its history and traditions along with its really high quality education. CNU seems ahistorical. A lot of kids who like CNU like that it feels clean and new, but that's usually not what those who like W&M are attracted to.

Didn’t you mean to write UMW instead of W&M in the above?

The PP asked why CNU wasn't considered a safety for those who'd like to go to W&M--so I was answering that. UMW isn't as historical and traditional as W&M, but it was founded in 1908 and has kept a lot of its traditional character. CNU was founded as a community college in 1960, became a university in the 1990s and has done a lot of its building/growth more recently. It's more akin to GMU in its history.

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

Yea I disagree with this. The admissions rate for JMU is just as high and for VCU it’s even higher. More than 9 out of 10
VCU applicants are accepted, and the profile of VCU students is actually lower. These are facts, not opinions, easily verifiable on line. It’s not helpful to post misinformation.

+1 UMW's best fit is as a safety for students who'd like to go to W&M. That was my DD and those were the only VA schools she applied to.

Why UMW rather than CNU?

CNU's vibe is very modern and business feeling. Its campus feels very engineered, with new buildings but with 'traditional architecture.' There's a "career-prep" vibe to the school.

Most of the kids that love W&M love its history and traditions along with its really high quality education. CNU seems ahistorical. A lot of kids who like CNU like that it feels clean and new, but that's usually not what those who like W&M are attracted to.

Didn’t you mean to write UMW instead of W&M in the above?

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

Yea I disagree with this. The admissions rate for JMU is just as high and for VCU it’s even higher. More than 9 out of 10
VCU applicants are accepted, and the profile of VCU students is actually lower. These are facts, not opinions, easily verifiable on line. It’s not helpful to post misinformation.

+1 UMW's best fit is as a safety for students who'd like to go to W&M. That was my DD and those were the only VA schools she applied to.

Why UMW rather than CNU?

CNU's vibe is very modern and business feeling. Its campus feels very engineered, with new buildings but with 'traditional architecture.' There's a "career-prep" vibe to the school.

Most of the kids that love W&M love its history and traditions along with its really high quality education. CNU seems ahistorical. A lot of kids who like CNU like that it feels clean and new, but that's usually not what those who like W&M are attracted to.

This. My DD who only applied to W&M + UMW absolutely hated CNU. She thought it felt like a soulless hotel campus. Hated the well manicured flower beds vs. other colleges that featured native plant gardens and botanic research projects. Sciences felt like a lower priority vs at UMW and LACs she'd visited (again, this was her impression from the tour, I know they offer plenty of sciences). Also, too much emphasis on Greek life -- I don't know that this is the day-to-day reality but we were there on a big tour day and all the tour guides were in Greek orgs. She said it felt like the place where the preppy popular kids from her school would go. I know kids who go there who don't fit that vibe and have had a great experience but it was not the place for DD. She ended up going to an OOS rural LAC with a very strong emphasis on sciences.

Anonymous wrote:So OP is complaining about JMU being woke, and a UMW alum is complaining about that school being woke. Is this a website catering to the DMV, or have I stumbled onto a Florida website?

There's been a crowd (or a few people with a lot of time on their hands) who are trying to influence VA to be more rightwing by posting a lot of talking points on here. I don't think they realize they are shooting themselves in the foot.

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

Yea I disagree with this. The admissions rate for JMU is just as high and for VCU it’s even higher. More than 9 out of 10
VCU applicants are accepted, and the profile of VCU students is actually lower. These are facts, not opinions, easily verifiable on line. It’s not helpful to post misinformation.

+1 UMW's best fit is as a safety for students who'd like to go to W&M. That was my DD and those were the only VA schools she applied to.

Why UMW rather than CNU?

CNU's vibe is very modern and business feeling. Its campus feels very engineered, with new buildings but with 'traditional architecture.' There's a "career-prep" vibe to the school.

Most of the kids that love W&M love its history and traditions along with its really high quality education. CNU seems ahistorical. A lot of kids who like CNU like that it feels clean and new, but that's usually not what those who like W&M are attracted to.

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

Yea I disagree with this. The admissions rate for JMU is just as high and for VCU it’s even higher. More than 9 out of 10
VCU applicants are accepted, and the profile of VCU students is actually lower. These are facts, not opinions, easily verifiable on line. It’s not helpful to post misinformation.

+1 UMW's best fit is as a safety for students who'd like to go to W&M. That was my DD and those were the only VA schools she applied to.

Why UMW rather than CNU?

Not the PP you were addressing but my daughter likes it better than CNU because it has a more traditional campus and it’s close to a cute downtown.

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

No way. VCU is far below UMW. It's a school for druggie artist wannabees.

What do you think UMW is? It's basically open enrollment and still can't get numbers it wants

Nah. That’s not accurate. UMW attracts and enrolls good students. It’s self-selecting.

Its enrollment is shrinking and not by choice

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

Yea I disagree with this. The admissions rate for JMU is just as high and for VCU it’s even higher. More than 9 out of 10
VCU applicants are accepted, and the profile of VCU students is actually lower. These are facts, not opinions, easily verifiable on line. It’s not helpful to post misinformation.

+1 UMW's best fit is as a safety for students who'd like to go to W&M. That was my DD and those were the only VA schools she applied to.

Why UMW rather than CNU?

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Anonymous wrote:We recently took our DS on tours of UVA, VT, Radford, JMU, and UMW.

UMW was our favorite hands down. Beautiful campus, more than enough offerings- no Greek scene (son isn't a partier), ridiculously affordable and small enough to not get lost. All the others minus Radford just seemed so huge and overwhelming. I get that the academics might be stronger at UVA and Tech, but not if you're a middle of the road undecided student.

Why isn't UMW more popular?

I can't figure it out either.

I took two of my kids to see it, and both loved it. DD wanted to go there, but got more money from another school, so went there. But it was a very appealing school from all angles. The campus is beautiful, and it's right in Fredricksburg, so not quite suburban, but not urban either.

I was very impressed by the school.

Both my DD and DS liked UMW more than CNU or JMU. They ended up getting into their first choice schools, but UMW was both their preferred safety. My son did bristle a little at the Mary in UMW (though of course my DD could care less about the "Christopher" in CNU or the "James" in JMU or the "George" in GMU) but it didn't stop him from choosing UMW over CNU or JMU as his safety option.

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

No way. VCU is far below UMW. It's a school for druggie artist wannabees.

What do you think UMW is? It's basically open enrollment and still can't get numbers it wants

Sure, and that doesn't make UMW a bad school.

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

No way. VCU is far below UMW. It's a school for druggie artist wannabees.

What do you think UMW is? It's basically open enrollment and still can't get numbers it wants

Nah. That’s not accurate. UMW attracts and enrolls good students. It’s self-selecting.

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

No way. VCU is far below UMW. It's a school for druggie artist wannabees.

What do you think UMW is? It's basically open enrollment and still can't get numbers it wants

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Anonymous wrote:We had an experience similar to yours when we visited. Prior to this, I didn’t know much about Mary Washington and my daughter and I were both pleasantly surprised.I too don’t get why it flies under the radar.

Maybe because it's ranked 149th among Liberal Arts Colleges by USNWR? I didn't even know there were that many LACs.

The point is why does it rank 149th? The school seems to have a lot going for it. That’s the mystery.

Other than academics. It has an 80% acceptance rate and is thought of as a safety for kids trying to get into JMU or VCU. Part of what makes SLACs good is the student body and Mary Washington isn't selective enough.

No way. VCU is far below UMW. It's a school for druggie artist wannabees.

Are you suggesting kids on the MCV path are druggist artist wannabes? Oh, the art program is one of the best in the country. Try harder.