Anonymous
07/10/2023 13:50
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If there's a chronic volunteer shortage, what's being asked is unreasonable. Overall, it's unreasonable and not sustainable. A complete redo of policy and expectations is the only answer.
There's an expression: you shouldn't lay the sidewalk till you see where people walk
This. Swim team growing up did not have all these unnecessary extras--breakfasts, dinners, snacks, concession stands, you name it.
The life guards and a few parents ran each meet. This happened home and away, so it was just not our pool. Families were able to attend, watch, cheer and enjoy the meets. Everything now is such an overdone ordeal. Thank goodness my kid was not into swim team.
I don’t believe it. You were probably a kid and didn’t see the work (which is normal)
Concessions raise money to make fees less. You’ve already got people on this thread class planning it’s elitist. Without concessions, fees go up at our pool.
Anonymous
07/10/2023 13:50
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Clock out*
Anonymous
07/10/2023 13:50
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a millennial parent and work 2-3 jobs because of the boomers, so I don't have time.
That's understandable, and I am sure since you can't volunteer, you wouldn't sign your kids up to swim.
Millennials and younger don't have the luxury to volunteer like you old people Genx+, we are busy working, swim team will have to change to something besides volunteers as we are screwed by crushing debt, inflation and low salaries
The younger adults I know are the ones who are all "that not my job", I click out at 5pm on the dot to make my spin class I whine about not being able to afford, and then check their phone constantly instead of working. You're thinking they're all working more just isn't true. Maybe YOU are, but this is not a generational thing at all.
Anonymous
07/10/2023 13:44
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If there's a chronic volunteer shortage, what's being asked is unreasonable. Overall, it's unreasonable and not sustainable. A complete redo of policy and expectations is the only answer.
There's an expression: you shouldn't lay the sidewalk till you see where people walk
This. Swim team growing up did not have all these unnecessary extras--breakfasts, dinners, snacks, concession stands, you name it.
The life guards and a few parents ran each meet. This happened home and away, so it was just not our pool. Families were able to attend, watch, cheer and enjoy the meets. Everything now is such an overdone ordeal. Thank goodness my kid was not into swim team.
This really isn’t true. I did summer swim growing up and we most definitely had all that stuff. It was a lot of fun for us as kids. Definitely donuts from concessions. Movie night. Pep rallies. There were still 3 timers on each lane, a ref, a starter, 4 stroke and turn judges. Still an announcer, all the table workers, data. None of that has changed in the last several decades. It was awesome and still is. As long as everyone who signs their kid up pitches in.
agreed- summer swim is still very much like it was 40 years ago. Two parts seem different to me 1) the number of parents who hang around 'watching' practices. 2) The number of parents who feel the need to take videos of their kids swimming. I am always startled when a parent tells me they can't volunteer b/c they need to video their kids swimming.
Anonymous
07/10/2023 13:39
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are a first-year swim family, and I always volunteer, but I don't begrudge the people who don't. We have a lot of military families in our neighborhood, many of whom have one spouse with a very inflexible job and multiple little kids. My four year old definitely can't just hang out at the pool deck while I time so I do get that. And I don't think activities should just be reserved for families with the ability to volunteer. Swim is already restrictive enough with practices that don't work for a working parent's schedule...
Volunteers are like do-it-all working moms while the non-volunteers (husbands) do jack shit around the house/pool.
You're still in the honeymoon phase, honey. Wait till next year to see how you feel.
LOL, great analogy!
Anonymous
07/10/2023 13:30
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:We are a first-year swim family, and I always volunteer, but I don't begrudge the people who don't. We have a lot of military families in our neighborhood, many of whom have one spouse with a very inflexible job and multiple little kids. My four year old definitely can't just hang out at the pool deck while I time so I do get that. And I don't think activities should just be reserved for families with the ability to volunteer. Swim is already restrictive enough with practices that don't work for a working parent's schedule...
Volunteers are like do-it-all working moms while the non-volunteers (husbands) do jack shit around the house/pool.
You're still in the honeymoon phase, honey. Wait till next year to see how you feel.
Anonymous
07/10/2023 13:12
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:We are a first-year swim family, and I always volunteer, but I don't begrudge the people who don't. We have a lot of military families in our neighborhood, many of whom have one spouse with a very inflexible job and multiple little kids. My four year old definitely can't just hang out at the pool deck while I time so I do get that. And I don't think activities should just be reserved for families with the ability to volunteer. Swim is already restrictive enough with practices that don't work for a working parent's schedule...
Give yourself a few years to be resentful!
Anonymous
07/10/2023 12:58
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
We are a first-year swim family, and I always volunteer, but I don't begrudge the people who don't. We have a lot of military families in our neighborhood, many of whom have one spouse with a very inflexible job and multiple little kids. My four year old definitely can't just hang out at the pool deck while I time so I do get that. And I don't think activities should just be reserved for families with the ability to volunteer. Swim is already restrictive enough with practices that don't work for a working parent's schedule...
Anonymous
07/10/2023 12:31
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a millennial parent and work 2-3 jobs because of the boomers, so I don't have time.
That's understandable, and I am sure since you can't volunteer, you wouldn't sign your kids up to swim.
Millennials and younger don't have the luxury to volunteer like you old people Genx+, we are busy working, swim team will have to change to something besides volunteers as we are screwed by crushing debt, inflation and low salaries
Anonymous
07/10/2023 12:28
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If there's a chronic volunteer shortage, what's being asked is unreasonable. Overall, it's unreasonable and not sustainable. A complete redo of policy and expectations is the only answer.
There's an expression: you shouldn't lay the sidewalk till you see where people walk
This. Swim team growing up did not have all these unnecessary extras--breakfasts, dinners, snacks, concession stands, you name it.
The life guards and a few parents ran each meet. This happened home and away, so it was just not our pool. Families were able to attend, watch, cheer and enjoy the meets. Everything now is such an overdone ordeal. Thank goodness my kid was not into swim team.
This really isn’t true. I did summer swim growing up and we most definitely had all that stuff. It was a lot of fun for us as kids. Definitely donuts from concessions. Movie night. Pep rallies. There were still 3 timers on each lane, a ref, a starter, 4 stroke and turn judges. Still an announcer, all the table workers, data. None of that has changed in the last several decades. It was awesome and still is. As long as everyone who signs their kid up pitches in.
Anonymous
07/10/2023 12:23
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a millennial parent and work 2-3 jobs because of the boomers, so I don't have time.
That's understandable, and I am sure since you can't volunteer, you wouldn't sign your kids up to swim.
There's a family at my pool that signed up and didn't fulfill their job requirements. This is the same family that signs their kid up for activities and camps and then expects other families to drive their kids.
Anonymous
07/10/2023 11:51
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:If there's a chronic volunteer shortage, what's being asked is unreasonable. Overall, it's unreasonable and not sustainable. A complete redo of policy and expectations is the only answer.
There's an expression: you shouldn't lay the sidewalk till you see where people walk
This. Swim team growing up did not have all these unnecessary extras--breakfasts, dinners, snacks, concession stands, you name it.
The life guards and a few parents ran each meet. This happened home and away, so it was just not our pool. Families were able to attend, watch, cheer and enjoy the meets. Everything now is such an overdone ordeal. Thank goodness my kid was not into swim team.
Anonymous
07/10/2023 11:44
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:If there's a chronic volunteer shortage, what's being asked is unreasonable. Overall, it's unreasonable and not sustainable. A complete redo of policy and expectations is the only answer.
There's an expression: you shouldn't lay the sidewalk till you see where people walk
There is a chronic. shortage at some pools. Others are healthy with large team our mid division team lowered requirements this year because we had more parents volunteering than hours to give
Anonymous
07/10/2023 11:02
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a millennial parent and work 2-3 jobs because of the boomers, so I don't have time.
That's understandable, and I am sure since you can't volunteer, you wouldn't sign your kids up to swim.
This is the only answer. The answer cannot be that bc you work a lot, you can’t volunteer, which is an advertised requirement for your kid to participate), yet you still sign your kid up. The woman who cleans my home volunteered for an NVSL team every meet, despite working 12+ hour days most days 30 years ago…so her child could have the experience. If she can do it, everyone can.
Anonymous
07/10/2023 10:50
Subject: Families that never volunteer - swim team
Anonymous wrote:I am a millennial parent and work 2-3 jobs because of the boomers, so I don't have time.
That's understandable, and I am sure since you can't volunteer, you wouldn't sign your kids up to swim.