Anonymous
07/04/2023 09:58
Subject: Re:One thing you believe that nobody else does
I think high protein diets are probably not great for life longevity. Maybe all that protein is keeping you full and helping you maintain your weight—I don’t know. But none of the major health organizations are saying you need all that protein. I think you’re better off with the “eat real food, mostly plants, not too much” theory. Better for the planet, too.
So it’s weird that everyone is espousing high protein. In my circles anyway.
Same. They are obsessed with protein, meat in particular, but never think about how they are eating almost no fiber.
They are also wrong about protein being what makes you feel full.
Constant protein signals IGF1 which can also promote cancer and other stuff. Cycling between high and suppressed IGF 1 is probably best for longevity, along with increased protein intake when over 65. I have done a few fasts followed by high protein to take advantage of both autophagy and increases muscle building after but generally do not follow high protein diet, esp with a high cvd risk in my family.
Anonymous
07/04/2023 08:49
Subject: Re:One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:Shoes are bad for your health. They enable you to move in ways nature didn’t intend. That puts stress on the entire kinetic chain which leads to long term orthopedic problems.
Why do my feet hurt so bad unless I wear my ugly but super supportive Hokas?
Anonymous
07/03/2023 23:22
Subject: Re:One thing you believe that nobody else does
Shoes are bad for your health. They enable you to move in ways nature didn’t intend. That puts stress on the entire kinetic chain which leads to long term orthopedic problems.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 23:20
Subject: One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think high protein diets are probably not great for life longevity. Maybe all that protein is keeping you full and helping you maintain your weight—I don’t know. But none of the major health organizations are saying you need all that protein. I think you’re better off with the “eat real food, mostly plants, not too much” theory. Better for the planet, too.
So it’s weird that everyone is espousing high protein. In my circles anyway.
Same. They are obsessed with protein, meat in particular, but never think about how they are eating almost no fiber.
They are also wrong about protein being what makes you feel full.
+1
Anonymous
07/03/2023 23:09
Subject: One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That the key to easy weight maintenance is only eating REAL food. No to artificial sweeteners, low fat products made with xanthan gum, etc. But YES to butter, bacon, whole milk alongside vegetables, lean meat, whole grains.
Kind of on the theme of supporting the bolded -- I am not anti-carb at all, but my nurse mom always said my high cholesterol had more to do with overeating carbs than animal protein.
Why would you add "nurse mom"? Are you implying that all nurses are experts in nutrition just because they work in hospitals? Maybe if you said my cardiologist mom you'd have a stronger statement.
A medical professional of any type has more access to knowledge and information. Chill PP.
Citing your mom is weak. And a medical professional "of any type" certainly doesn't have more access to knowledge or information. When was the last time your nurse mom (vomit) got on pubmed or even uptodate?
NP. Ugh you are the worst type of DCUM poster, go away. your stupid quotes and your rudeness and you (vomit). No one is impressed by you mentioning pubmed lol. PP's mom may have better info and less rudeness than you, it wouldn't be hard. Bye.
Nah, the worst sort of DCUM poster is one who lacks any knowledge or training, and then tries to cite their mom as a source. This is worse than the pre-med student claiming medical knowledge. Go ahead and celebrate your ignorance. Bye!
Why can't you elevate the places you go instead of lower them? Express your points respectfully and all.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 22:57
Subject: One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People who are obese or overweight and lose a moderate amount of weight aren’t any healthier than people who just stay overweight.
The delineation in BMI between “normal weight,” “overweight,” and “obese” is totally arbitrary and not based on any statistics about health or risk of heart disease or stroke or anything else.
Well sure, if you're only looking at BMI - and not resting heart rate, lung/breathing health, the lowered stress on your bones/joints, not to mention lower body fat percentage or degree of muscle mass.
BMI is a very rough guideline, at best. But to say that people who lose weight via incorporating a regular exercise routine and more whole foods diet "aren't any healthier" is a load of bunk. Dropping 50+lbs the old fashioned way has lowered my resting heart rate by nearly 25 beats, from 80-85ish to 55-60. That isn't a small thing.
You can incorporate a regular exercise routine and eat more whole food without losing weight and vice versa. You can lose weight without adding regular exercise or eating more fruits and vegetables. Ask any teenage girl.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 22:56
Subject: Re:One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My unpopular opinion is that eating fast food is not that bad for you. I probably eat it at least 4x/week with my kids. We are all healthy and average weight. I'm mid-40s with teens and maybe 5-10 lbs more than pre-pregnancy.
I'm sure no one will agree with me, though.
Okay so you're an average weight, big deal. What you are doing though is rotting your insides with ultra-processed, chemically laden foods and seed oils. Health and weight are not synonymous.
Yeah, you are probably right. I acknowledged no one would agree with me. I don't have any health issues yet, though.
The rest of my meals besides fast food are pretty healthy, mostly vegetables.
The animals are treated unethically.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 22:44
Subject: One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That the key to easy weight maintenance is only eating REAL food. No to artificial sweeteners, low fat products made with xanthan gum, etc. But YES to butter, bacon, whole milk alongside vegetables, lean meat, whole grains.
Kind of on the theme of supporting the bolded -- I am not anti-carb at all, but my nurse mom always said my high cholesterol had more to do with overeating carbs than animal protein.
Why would you add "nurse mom"? Are you implying that all nurses are experts in nutrition just because they work in hospitals? Maybe if you said my cardiologist mom you'd have a stronger statement.
A medical professional of any type has more access to knowledge and information. Chill PP.
Citing your mom is weak. And a medical professional "of any type" certainly doesn't have more access to knowledge or information. When was the last time your nurse mom (vomit) got on pubmed or even uptodate?
NP. Ugh you are the worst type of DCUM poster, go away. your stupid quotes and your rudeness and you (vomit). No one is impressed by you mentioning pubmed lol. PP's mom may have better info and less rudeness than you, it wouldn't be hard. Bye.
Nah, the worst sort of DCUM poster is one who lacks any knowledge or training, and then tries to cite their mom as a source. This is worse than the pre-med student claiming medical knowledge. Go ahead and celebrate your ignorance. Bye!
Anonymous
07/03/2023 22:12
Subject: One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That the key to easy weight maintenance is only eating REAL food. No to artificial sweeteners, low fat products made with xanthan gum, etc. But YES to butter, bacon, whole milk alongside vegetables, lean meat, whole grains.
Kind of on the theme of supporting the bolded -- I am not anti-carb at all, but my nurse mom always said my high cholesterol had more to do with overeating carbs than animal protein.
Why would you add "nurse mom"? Are you implying that all nurses are experts in nutrition just because they work in hospitals? Maybe if you said my cardiologist mom you'd have a stronger statement.
A medical professional of any type has more access to knowledge and information. Chill PP.
Citing your mom is weak. And a medical professional "of any type" certainly doesn't have more access to knowledge or information. When was the last time your nurse mom (vomit) got on pubmed or even uptodate?
NP. Ugh you are the worst type of DCUM poster, go away. your stupid quotes and your rudeness and you (vomit). No one is impressed by you mentioning pubmed lol. PP's mom may have better info and less rudeness than you, it wouldn't be hard. Bye.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 19:25
Subject: One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:People who are obese or overweight and lose a moderate amount of weight aren’t any healthier than people who just stay overweight.
The delineation in BMI between “normal weight,” “overweight,” and “obese” is totally arbitrary and not based on any statistics about health or risk of heart disease or stroke or anything else.
Well sure, if you're only looking at BMI - and not resting heart rate, lung/breathing health, the lowered stress on your bones/joints, not to mention lower body fat percentage or degree of muscle mass.
BMI is a very rough guideline, at best. But to say that people who lose weight via incorporating a regular exercise routine and more whole foods diet "aren't any healthier" is a load of bunk. Dropping 50+lbs the old fashioned way has lowered my resting heart rate by nearly 25 beats, from 80-85ish to 55-60. That isn't a small thing.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 19:19
Subject: Re:One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Permanent weight loss without surgical or medical intervention is mostly a myth.
Yep. As a person who has done a million diets and not one that stuck, and now five years out of weight loss surgery that has stuck, this is a fact.
There are millions of people who keep weight off without surgery. Just because you can’t doesn’t mean it’s not true for the rest of us. Stop denying our lived experience.
x10000
Anonymous
07/03/2023 19:16
Subject: One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:I think high protein diets are probably not great for life longevity. Maybe all that protein is keeping you full and helping you maintain your weight—I don’t know. But none of the major health organizations are saying you need all that protein. I think you’re better off with the “eat real food, mostly plants, not too much” theory. Better for the planet, too.
So it’s weird that everyone is espousing high protein. In my circles anyway.
Same. They are obsessed with protein, meat in particular, but never think about how they are eating almost no fiber.
They are also wrong about protein being what makes you feel full.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 18:56
Subject: One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know I am not the only person who believes this, anyone who was overweight knows that they are treated 100x better when thinner.
People will deny it but it's true that you thin folk are much nicer to other thin people.
Not exactly. Many fat people are just as biased as thin people against other fat people.
So? Many women are misogynistic and biased against other women. That’s just the culture we live in. It doesn’t make it right.
The previous comment alleged that it was thin people who are biased against fat people. I am correcting them. Don’t shoot the messenger.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 18:54
Subject: One thing you believe that nobody else does
Weight loss is the only example of something where people strive to argue they are part of the average to show it’s impossible long term. Population as a whole as they say.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 18:22
Subject: One thing you believe that nobody else does
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know I am not the only person who believes this, anyone who was overweight knows that they are treated 100x better when thinner.
People will deny it but it's true that you thin folk are much nicer to other thin people.
Not exactly. Many fat people are just as biased as thin people against other fat people.
So? Many women are misogynistic and biased against other women. That’s just the culture we live in. It doesn’t make it right.