Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:35
Subject: Re:Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s easy to forget this in the DCUM bubble, but many families don’t have the option to leave. And those kids deserve an education.
Maybe not in pre-K, but by kindergarten there are seats at many better schools without these issues, just not at HRCSs with a DCI preference…
You are assuming that all families have resources to get their kids to those other schools, among other assumptions.
Please do describe a person who can get their child to Mundo P St but not to Seaton or Langley.
Oh please. Your privilege is showing.
Okay. Oodles of people are so disadvantaged that they literally can't travel even a few more blocks. Tons of them.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:33
Subject: Re:Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s easy to forget this in the DCUM bubble, but many families don’t have the option to leave. And those kids deserve an education.
Maybe not in pre-K, but by kindergarten there are seats at many better schools without these issues, just not at HRCSs with a DCI preference…
You are assuming that all families have resources to get their kids to those other schools, among other assumptions.
Please do describe a person who can get their child to Mundo P St but not to Seaton or Langley.
Oh please. Your privilege is showing.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:32
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Can those in the know clarify if it’s the whole school that’s the issue or just the third grade? For real please. I’d like an objective and dispassionate answer.
- potential MV parent
The third grade parents are the ones leading this effort, but other grade levels have also experienced significant teacher turnover and poor academic performance.
Whether an issue is "the whole school" is in the eye of the beholder. Do you think 2nd grade parents care about the quality of 3rd grade instruction? I certainly would. I think all parents should care about every grade. The whole school has the same leadership and management, so if leadership and management failures are happening in any grade, it should be the concern of all. Especially of younger-kid parents whose children are likely to be affected in the future.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:30
Subject: Re:Protest at Mundo on P street
+100. Agree. It is really not as simple as just 'pulling' our kids from school and placing them elsewhere. A lot of families want and need Mundo to succeed, and the start of a solution seems to be a change in executive leadership.
Absent the board taking action to remove her from that position (or her resignation), is there any other way to get new leadership?
I understand protests are occurring, people are contacting the school board, newspapers, etc., but ultimately, it is the board's call, right?
Absent the board taking action to remove her from that position (or her resignation), is there any other way to get new leadership?
I understand protests are occurring, people are contacting the school board, newspapers, etc., but ultimately, it is the board's call, right?
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:30
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Can those in the know clarify if it’s the whole school that’s the issue or just the third grade? For real please. I’d like an objective and dispassionate answer.
- potential MV parent
It is the whole school. It varies from year to year what grades get hit the hardest.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:30
Subject: Re:Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s easy to forget this in the DCUM bubble, but many families don’t have the option to leave. And those kids deserve an education.
Maybe not in pre-K, but by kindergarten there are seats at many better schools without these issues, just not at HRCSs with a DCI preference…
You are assuming that all families have resources to get their kids to those other schools, among other assumptions.
Please do describe a person who can get their child to Mundo P St but not to Seaton or Langley.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:29
Subject: Re:Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s easy to forget this in the DCUM bubble, but many families don’t have the option to leave. And those kids deserve an education.
Maybe not in pre-K, but by kindergarten there are seats at many better schools without these issues, just not at HRCSs with a DCI preference…
You are assuming that all families have resources to get their kids to those other schools, among other assumptions.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:28
Subject: Re:Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is the people who are excusing this as an isolated incident of one grade affected by the pandemic that are "gross."
I'm a former MV parent (pre-pandemic), and the letter sent in response to the protest was typical of the ED gaslighting we saw for YEARS.
One year we had a revolving door of teachers and the administration actually said to us that it wasn't a problem because based on test scores there was "no learning loss." Turns out the test scores for our class were the same at the end of the school year as they were at the beginning of that school year. Most people would read that as "there was no learning happening for an entire year" -- especially since the other classes in the same grade that didn't experience as much teacher turnover made the expected gains. But that's how they spun it.
They said this is a townhall meeting that parents demanded, and then they wouldn't let anyone ask questions! They just talked at us with PowerPoint slides and we had to submit questions in writing to be answered later -- but they were never answered.
I sincerely hope these protests are effective.
+100. Even if the school is "working" for your kids--you have to know that situation is tenuous at best, given the lack of leadership. Next year, your child could be in a classroom that experiences all of these issues (and more!). When there are systemic problems at the leadership level, it's only a matter of time until your child feels the negative impact. That's why I don't get the "MV is working for my kids now, so I'm not going to worry". That's extremely narrow minded of you. What will you do in 2-3 years time as the school continues to crumble? You have to plan for the long game in this city.
Who said this “ "MV is working for my kids now, so I'm not going to worry"?
this is the vibe of a lot of parents there right now.
and i don't understand it... as soon as i started hearing from other families with older kids about the learning challenges in the older grades (teacher retention, issues with actual learning in either language, inability to deal with behavioral issues), i knew we were going to pull our kid.
The fact that they are not leaving like you, doesn’t mean that they are not worried and working together to find a solution to the issues.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:27
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Can those in the know clarify if it’s the whole school that’s the issue or just the third grade? For real please. I’d like an objective and dispassionate answer.
- potential MV parent
- potential MV parent
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:27
Subject: Re:Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:It’s easy to forget this in the DCUM bubble, but many families don’t have the option to leave. And those kids deserve an education.
Maybe not in pre-K, but by kindergarten there are seats at many better schools without these issues, just not at HRCSs with a DCI preference…
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:25
Subject: Re:Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:It’s easy to forget this in the DCUM bubble, but many families don’t have the option to leave. And those kids deserve an education.
correct. i saw it up close. breaks my heart. these kids deserve better.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:24
Subject: Re:Protest at Mundo on P street
It’s easy to forget this in the DCUM bubble, but many families don’t have the option to leave. And those kids deserve an education.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:21
Subject: Re:Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is the people who are excusing this as an isolated incident of one grade affected by the pandemic that are "gross."
I'm a former MV parent (pre-pandemic), and the letter sent in response to the protest was typical of the ED gaslighting we saw for YEARS.
One year we had a revolving door of teachers and the administration actually said to us that it wasn't a problem because based on test scores there was "no learning loss." Turns out the test scores for our class were the same at the end of the school year as they were at the beginning of that school year. Most people would read that as "there was no learning happening for an entire year" -- especially since the other classes in the same grade that didn't experience as much teacher turnover made the expected gains. But that's how they spun it.
They said this is a townhall meeting that parents demanded, and then they wouldn't let anyone ask questions! They just talked at us with PowerPoint slides and we had to submit questions in writing to be answered later -- but they were never answered.
I sincerely hope these protests are effective.
+100. Even if the school is "working" for your kids--you have to know that situation is tenuous at best, given the lack of leadership. Next year, your child could be in a classroom that experiences all of these issues (and more!). When there are systemic problems at the leadership level, it's only a matter of time until your child feels the negative impact. That's why I don't get the "MV is working for my kids now, so I'm not going to worry". That's extremely narrow minded of you. What will you do in 2-3 years time as the school continues to crumble? You have to plan for the long game in this city.
Who said this “ "MV is working for my kids now, so I'm not going to worry"?
this is the vibe of a lot of parents there right now.
and i don't understand it... as soon as i started hearing from other families with older kids about the learning challenges in the older grades (teacher retention, issues with actual learning in either language, inability to deal with behavioral issues), i knew we were going to pull our kid.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:20
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:When will parents start taking responsibility?
By leaving the school, you mean? Plenty of parents are. And while I think moving schools is better for children than years of the instability they deal with at MV, parents are writing the PCSB, protesting, and contacting the media. There's not much else they can do if they want to work from change from within.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 13:17
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:When will parents start taking responsibility?
Responsibility for hiring teachers?