Anonymous
06/09/2023 15:27
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beside the nude scenes, what’s wrong with 16 Candles? The Donger?
Um, the main love interest giving away his drunk girlfriend to a kid who did him a favor so the kid can rape her?
C’mon. Everyone loved Jake!
That is, quite literally, one of the things that is troubling about it. We love Jake, yet he is TERRIBLE and lets his gf get date raped! Gross.
I never took it that anything actually happened between Anthony M-H’s character and the girlfriend…it’s not like they were undressed or anything. What made the scene funny was that nothing probably did happen, but they sort of decided to believe it did and were happy about it (despite being a dorky freshman and beautiful senior). Also, of course in real life Jake should not have sent his drunk girlfriend off with AMH (though I believe he just asked him to drive her home and not to ‘rape her’); but even as a teen in the 80s I knew it was wrong and silly, which again, is partially what made it funny. I mean, a grandmother feeling up a grandchild is also wrong and ridiculous, and that is why it is funny.
Watch the scene again. It’s clear that he raped her. Of course, 80’s being the 80’s, she’s not feeling at all bothered and basically assures him that she probably liked it.
Just watched it on youtube. They just sit in the car. Nothing happens
I think the movie is fairly ambiguous about both Jake’s intentions for Ted and what happened between Ted and Jake’s girlfriend. I mean, sure you could interpret it in the worst possible way and, who knows, maybe that’s what the director intended. But I think a reasonable person could fairly argue that Jake just wanted Ted to take his girlfriend back home because he didn’t want her around any more and that nothing actually happened in the car.
You need to rewatch he clearly gave her over to have sex.
I have rewatched it. I honestly don’t think so. I think Jake was tired of her and wanted Ted to take her home and to make sure she got home and not do something stupid like leave her in a parking lot somewhere. He never tells Ted to “have fun” with her or anything.
Correction: Jake does say “have fun” as they are about to leave in the car together, but he doesn’t say “have fun with her”.
My interpretation as a kid watching this movie, and I think it holds up, is that Jake let Ted drive his girlfriend home because it would improve his reputation to be seen with the most popular girl in school. That’s it. And Ted did take her to his friend’s house to get a picture of them together. I don’t think it makes sense that Jake would talk about valuing real love, and then basically giving his girlfriend over for sex in the next breath. That’s the way I see it, but everyone is entitled to their own interpretation obviously.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 14:43
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would show anything from my childhood era to my kids so long as it wasn’t rated R like the Texas chainsaw massacre, Poltergeist movies etc.
Poltergeist is rated PG.
Was it really!? That movie scared the crap out of me as a kid. Maybe the rating system from the 80s isn’t a good judge of fear/violence in movies from that era then.
At the time there was no PG13 rating. That rating was created after the Gremlins movie came out.
I haven't seen Gremlins since the 90's but I'm sure it hasn't aged well either. I remember some characters got killed by the gremlins and there was an old stereotyped Chinese man and no one listened to his advice.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 14:39
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beside the nude scenes, what’s wrong with 16 Candles? The Donger?
Um, the main love interest giving away his drunk girlfriend to a kid who did him a favor so the kid can rape her?
C’mon. Everyone loved Jake!
That is, quite literally, one of the things that is troubling about it. We love Jake, yet he is TERRIBLE and lets his gf get date raped! Gross.
I never took it that anything actually happened between Anthony M-H’s character and the girlfriend…it’s not like they were undressed or anything. What made the scene funny was that nothing probably did happen, but they sort of decided to believe it did and were happy about it (despite being a dorky freshman and beautiful senior). Also, of course in real life Jake should not have sent his drunk girlfriend off with AMH (though I believe he just asked him to drive her home and not to ‘rape her’); but even as a teen in the 80s I knew it was wrong and silly, which again, is partially what made it funny. I mean, a grandmother feeling up a grandchild is also wrong and ridiculous, and that is why it is funny.
Watch the scene again. It’s clear that he raped her. Of course, 80’s being the 80’s, she’s not feeling at all bothered and basically assures him that she probably liked it.
Just watched it on youtube. They just sit in the car. Nothing happens
I think the movie is fairly ambiguous about both Jake’s intentions for Ted and what happened between Ted and Jake’s girlfriend. I mean, sure you could interpret it in the worst possible way and, who knows, maybe that’s what the director intended. But I think a reasonable person could fairly argue that Jake just wanted Ted to take his girlfriend back home because he didn’t want her around any more and that nothing actually happened in the car.
You need to rewatch he clearly gave her over to have sex.
I have rewatched it. I honestly don’t think so. I think Jake was tired of her and wanted Ted to take her home and to make sure she got home and not do something stupid like leave her in a parking lot somewhere. He never tells Ted to “have fun” with her or anything.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 14:28
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beside the nude scenes, what’s wrong with 16 Candles? The Donger?
Um, the main love interest giving away his drunk girlfriend to a kid who did him a favor so the kid can rape her?
C’mon. Everyone loved Jake!
I loved Jake when I was in middle school. Now I understand that he gave his girlfriend to a dweeb to rape. The rapey-ness makes him far less hot
Except that at the time it wasn't considered rape, although it was considered assholish behavior.
Yea it was considered date rape.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 14:27
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beside the nude scenes, what’s wrong with 16 Candles? The Donger?
Um, the main love interest giving away his drunk girlfriend to a kid who did him a favor so the kid can rape her?
C’mon. Everyone loved Jake!
That is, quite literally, one of the things that is troubling about it. We love Jake, yet he is TERRIBLE and lets his gf get date raped! Gross.
I never took it that anything actually happened between Anthony M-H’s character and the girlfriend…it’s not like they were undressed or anything. What made the scene funny was that nothing probably did happen, but they sort of decided to believe it did and were happy about it (despite being a dorky freshman and beautiful senior). Also, of course in real life Jake should not have sent his drunk girlfriend off with AMH (though I believe he just asked him to drive her home and not to ‘rape her’); but even as a teen in the 80s I knew it was wrong and silly, which again, is partially what made it funny. I mean, a grandmother feeling up a grandchild is also wrong and ridiculous, and that is why it is funny.
Watch the scene again. It’s clear that he raped her. Of course, 80’s being the 80’s, she’s not feeling at all bothered and basically assures him that she probably liked it.
Just watched it on youtube. They just sit in the car. Nothing happens
I think the movie is fairly ambiguous about both Jake’s intentions for Ted and what happened between Ted and Jake’s girlfriend. I mean, sure you could interpret it in the worst possible way and, who knows, maybe that’s what the director intended. But I think a reasonable person could fairly argue that Jake just wanted Ted to take his girlfriend back home because he didn’t want her around any more and that nothing actually happened in the car.
You need to rewatch he clearly gave her over to have sex.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 14:21
Subject: Re:Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Breakfast at Tiffany’s
????
NP. Why the question marks? If you’ve actually seen the movie, you would not be confused about it being included on this list.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 14:04
Subject: Re:Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Revenge of the Nerds has a scene where a main character tricks another character into having sex with him. It's rape. Not great.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 14:03
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:16 Candles
My favorite! That's required viewing for my girls!
I loved 16 Candles in high school, but the whole drunk sex thing with Anthony Michael Hall's character is trending dangerously close to rape.
The Long Duk Dong character is very racist.
It didn't age well.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 14:02
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beside the nude scenes, what’s wrong with 16 Candles? The Donger?
Um, the main love interest giving away his drunk girlfriend to a kid who did him a favor so the kid can rape her?
C’mon. Everyone loved Jake!
I loved Jake when I was in middle school. Now I understand that he gave his girlfriend to a dweeb to rape. The rapey-ness makes him far less hot
Except that at the time it wasn't considered rape, although it was considered assholish behavior.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 14:00
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beside the nude scenes, what’s wrong with 16 Candles? The Donger?
Um, the main love interest giving away his drunk girlfriend to a kid who did him a favor so the kid can rape her?
C’mon. Everyone loved Jake!
That is, quite literally, one of the things that is troubling about it. We love Jake, yet he is TERRIBLE and lets his gf get date raped! Gross.
I never took it that anything actually happened between Anthony M-H’s character and the girlfriend…it’s not like they were undressed or anything. What made the scene funny was that nothing probably did happen, but they sort of decided to believe it did and were happy about it (despite being a dorky freshman and beautiful senior). Also, of course in real life Jake should not have sent his drunk girlfriend off with AMH (though I believe he just asked him to drive her home and not to ‘rape her’); but even as a teen in the 80s I knew it was wrong and silly, which again, is partially what made it funny. I mean, a grandmother feeling up a grandchild is also wrong and ridiculous, and that is why it is funny.
Watch the scene again. It’s clear that he raped her. Of course, 80’s being the 80’s, she’s not feeling at all bothered and basically assures him that she probably liked it.
Just watched it on youtube. They just sit in the car. Nothing happens
I think the movie is fairly ambiguous about both Jake’s intentions for Ted and what happened between Ted and Jake’s girlfriend. I mean, sure you could interpret it in the worst possible way and, who knows, maybe that’s what the director intended. But I think a reasonable person could fairly argue that Jake just wanted Ted to take his girlfriend back home because he didn’t want her around any more and that nothing actually happened in the car.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 13:58
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beside the nude scenes, what’s wrong with 16 Candles? The Donger?
Um, the main love interest giving away his drunk girlfriend to a kid who did him a favor so the kid can rape her?
C’mon. Everyone loved Jake!
That is, quite literally, one of the things that is troubling about it. We love Jake, yet he is TERRIBLE and lets his gf get date raped! Gross.
I never took it that anything actually happened between Anthony M-H’s character and the girlfriend…it’s not like they were undressed or anything. What made the scene funny was that nothing probably did happen, but they sort of decided to believe it did and were happy about it (despite being a dorky freshman and beautiful senior). Also, of course in real life Jake should not have sent his drunk girlfriend off with AMH (though I believe he just asked him to drive her home and not to ‘rape her’); but even as a teen in the 80s I knew it was wrong and silly, which again, is partially what made it funny. I mean, a grandmother feeling up a grandchild is also wrong and ridiculous, and that is why it is funny.
Watch the scene again. It’s clear that he raped her. Of course, 80’s being the 80’s, she’s not feeling at all bothered and basically assures him that she probably liked it.
Just watched it on youtube. They just sit in the car. Nothing happens
She says “did we?” And he says “yes”
Anonymous
06/09/2023 13:57
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Gone With the Wind. My mom hadn't seen it since the 1950s and suggested watching it with my kids. Everybody was horrified.
One of the best movies ever made.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 13:52
Subject: Re:Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Breakfast at Tiffany’s
????
Anonymous
06/09/2023 13:52
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:16 Candles
My favorite! That's required viewing for my girls!
Anonymous
06/09/2023 13:16
Subject: Movies that don’t age well and you wouldn’t show your children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beside the nude scenes, what’s wrong with 16 Candles? The Donger?
Um, the main love interest giving away his drunk girlfriend to a kid who did him a favor so the kid can rape her?
C’mon. Everyone loved Jake!
That is, quite literally, one of the things that is troubling about it. We love Jake, yet he is TERRIBLE and lets his gf get date raped! Gross.
I never took it that anything actually happened between Anthony M-H’s character and the girlfriend…it’s not like they were undressed or anything. What made the scene funny was that nothing probably did happen, but they sort of decided to believe it did and were happy about it (despite being a dorky freshman and beautiful senior). Also, of course in real life Jake should not have sent his drunk girlfriend off with AMH (though I believe he just asked him to drive her home and not to ‘rape her’); but even as a teen in the 80s I knew it was wrong and silly, which again, is partially what made it funny. I mean, a grandmother feeling up a grandchild is also wrong and ridiculous, and that is why it is funny.
Watch the scene again. It’s clear that he raped her. Of course, 80’s being the 80’s, she’s not feeling at all bothered and basically assures him that she probably liked it.
Just watched it on youtube. They just sit in the car. Nothing happens