Anonymous
06/01/2023 05:56
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize so many middle aged women were looking at my teen daughters legs so closely.
Oh yes
You know the type that do so.
Anonymous
06/01/2023 01:27
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
Men prefer women without body hair because their media and culture have conditioned them that way. It’s not a hard-wired instinctual thing—women naturally have leg and armpit hair, so our caveman ancestors clearly weren’t holding out for the cave-lady with the cleanest prehistoric Brazilian. And in many modern cultures, it’s totally acceptable for women not to shave, because that’s the cultural norm.
So why shouldn’t our hairy-legged daughters be on the forefront of social change? One less impossible beauty standard for women to incessantly chase isn’t a bad thing.
(I’ll admit to wishing my daughter would at least shave her pits, but that’s my own issue to deal with. She’s confident in herself, and I’d never knowingly do anything to shake that. It’s a rare and fragile quality in a teenage girl.)
So why shouldn’t our hairy-legged daughters be on the forefront of social change? One less impossible beauty standard for women to incessantly chase isn’t a bad thing.
(I’ll admit to wishing my daughter would at least shave her pits, but that’s my own issue to deal with. She’s confident in herself, and I’d never knowingly do anything to shake that. It’s a rare and fragile quality in a teenage girl.)
Anonymous
05/31/2023 23:45
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting to me that women are so concerned about men and boys not being attracted to certain traits of other women and girls. Why does the thought that a girl would do something that men find unattractive cause such angst in their hearts?
- and even if most men find it unattractive, she doesn’t need men anyway. She can just date girls. So there.
So someone can just become a lesbian that easily?
Or she can date men who aren't ignorant.
Like, a sensitive new-age guy.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 23:12
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all are acting like a majority of teens are not shaving. I have 3 teenage girls. Different friend groups (one artsy, theatre type girl, one is sporty and one is conventionally popular group). I have seen ZERO hairy legs around here when their friends are over, swimming in our pool, etc. Every girl appears to shave or wax her legs. These girls all attend DC private school.
The majority of teen girls are not in private school.
Is it an upper class vs middle class thing?
Anonymous
05/31/2023 20:12
Subject: Re:Does your DD shave her legs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Guarantee you these girls will start shaving once out in the real world.
So teenagers at the local pool and the high school locker room aren't living in the "real world"? Where are they, The Matrix? Limbo? The Underworld? Lucid dreaming a la "Vanilla Sky"? Do tell.
Lol. No they aren’t in the real world yet. How old are you? This makes me think you are a teenager?
Honey, I'll try to go slow so you can keep up. People at different stages of life have different responsibilities, but that does not mean they are not living in the real world. They are, they are just at different life stages. And right now, if a teenage girl wants to shave her legs, great. If not, fine. That's real. There are no drastic merits or consequences either way. I'm glad I could help you out.
Wow. What has you so triggered? Teens are in a bubble. And guarantee things will change as they enter a new life stage. Come back in 10 years and let me know.
I see women in their thirties and forties with hairy legs all the time. They're living "in the real world" with jobs, partners and children.
+1 as a hairy legged adult (I shave when I wanted to which is inconsistent to say the least and not before every time in wear shorts) I promise the real world mostly doesn’t care unless you’re like a swimsuit model or something
Anonymous
05/31/2023 20:08
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
I didn't realize so many middle aged women were looking at my teen daughters legs so closely.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 20:04
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
Anonymous wrote:You all are acting like a majority of teens are not shaving. I have 3 teenage girls. Different friend groups (one artsy, theatre type girl, one is sporty and one is conventionally popular group). I have seen ZERO hairy legs around here when their friends are over, swimming in our pool, etc. Every girl appears to shave or wax her legs. These girls all attend DC private school.
The majority of teen girls are not in private school.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 19:48
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting to me that women are so concerned about men and boys not being attracted to certain traits of other women and girls. Why does the thought that a girl would do something that men find unattractive cause such angst in their hearts?
- and even if most men find it unattractive, she doesn’t need men anyway. She can just date girls. So there.
So someone can just become a lesbian that easily?
Or she can date men who aren't ignorant.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 18:38
Subject: Re:Does your DD shave her legs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Guarantee you these girls will start shaving once out in the real world.
So teenagers at the local pool and the high school locker room aren't living in the "real world"? Where are they, The Matrix? Limbo? The Underworld? Lucid dreaming a la "Vanilla Sky"? Do tell.
Lol. No they aren’t in the real world yet. How old are you? This makes me think you are a teenager?
Honey, I'll try to go slow so you can keep up. People at different stages of life have different responsibilities, but that does not mean they are not living in the real world. They are, they are just at different life stages. And right now, if a teenage girl wants to shave her legs, great. If not, fine. That's real. There are no drastic merits or consequences either way. I'm glad I could help you out.
Wow. What has you so triggered? Teens are in a bubble. And guarantee things will change as they enter a new life stage. Come back in 10 years and let me know.
Go closely examine your teenage daughter’s friends’ bikini areas closely so more. You are very interested in teenage vaginas, so stay focused on that.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 18:36
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why some of you are so bent out of shape that many people find not shaving unattractive. Whether that is by preference, conditioning, or whatever the reason. I don't find it attractive. Lots do not.
Would I ever SAY anything or do anything about it? No. But, I would def think it. We can all agree that people should not shame someone for not shaving. But, it is fair to point out to my DD, for example, this is what people think. If she chooses not to shave . . . well, that's on her.
I get that ones getting all POd are the ones that WISH people felt different. Want to validate their choice. Or view the act of not shaving as some middle finger to beauty standards, or an act of independence or whatever. Fine. For you. That doesn't mean others have to feel that way. And lecturing people about your moral superiority just is not going to change that. Nor is labeling someone with those personal views "bullies" and worse. Shame on those of you doing that here. Own your decisions. But stick your a$$holery where the sun doesn't shine.
You tried it, but I LITERALLY said that it’s fine to think it in your head, but not fine to say it out loud. And yes, anyone who mocks or gossips out loud about other people’s bodies is, indeed, a bully.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 18:33
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
You all are acting like a majority of teens are not shaving. I have 3 teenage girls. Different friend groups (one artsy, theatre type girl, one is sporty and one is conventionally popular group). I have seen ZERO hairy legs around here when their friends are over, swimming in our pool, etc. Every girl appears to shave or wax her legs. These girls all attend DC private school.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 17:02
Subject: Re:Does your DD shave her legs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Guarantee you these girls will start shaving once out in the real world.
So teenagers at the local pool and the high school locker room aren't living in the "real world"? Where are they, The Matrix? Limbo? The Underworld? Lucid dreaming a la "Vanilla Sky"? Do tell.
Lol. No they aren’t in the real world yet. How old are you? This makes me think you are a teenager?
Honey, I'll try to go slow so you can keep up. People at different stages of life have different responsibilities, but that does not mean they are not living in the real world. They are, they are just at different life stages. And right now, if a teenage girl wants to shave her legs, great. If not, fine. That's real. There are no drastic merits or consequences either way. I'm glad I could help you out.
Wow. What has you so triggered? Teens are in a bubble. And guarantee things will change as they enter a new life stage. Come back in 10 years and let me know.
I see women in their thirties and forties with hairy legs all the time. They're living "in the real world" with jobs, partners and children.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 16:53
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
Anonymous wrote:Men don’t want women with hairy legs or pits. Teach your daughter how to function in society.
Who cares what men want. You're raising your daughter to make choices about her body based on what you think men want? Why? That's stupid. Plus, she may not even be interested in men.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 16:44
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
Times are changing, men can get on the bus or watch it pass them by.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 16:30
Subject: Does your DD shave her legs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why some of you are so bent out of shape that many people find not shaving unattractive. Whether that is by preference, conditioning, or whatever the reason. I don't find it attractive. Lots do not.
Would I ever SAY anything or do anything about it? No. But, I would def think it. We can all agree that people should not shame someone for not shaving. But, it is fair to point out to my DD, for example, this is what people think. If she chooses not to shave . . . well, that's on her.
I get that ones getting all POd are the ones that WISH people felt different. Want to validate their choice. Or view the act of not shaving as some middle finger to beauty standards, or an act of independence or whatever. Fine. For you. That doesn't mean others have to feel that way. And lecturing people about your moral superiority just is not going to change that. Nor is labeling someone with those personal views "bullies" and worse. Shame on those of you doing that here. Own your decisions. But stick your a$$holery where the sun doesn't shine.
Oh come on, a lot of these commenters are calling girls who don't shave rude names like "yeti" and "gross." That's not the same thing has merely having a personal view.
I'm not bent out of shape about others calling hairy legs unattractive. Conventional beauty standards, which in our society by and large determine what is attractive and what isn't, definitely say that women and girls need to shave in order to be beautiful.
But the main point is that it is weird to say that teenage girls need to do something that they don't want to do so that they can fit conventional beauty standards and be attractive to men. I don't know how they feel totally comfortable saying that a teenage girl should go against her own preferences and change her behavior in order to conform to a man's preference. I don't care if DD shaves or not but I will never tell her that she should change in order to attract the attention of men (unless she asked for advice on how to do that).
The secondary point is that while the majority of men will not find a woman with armpit hair unattractive, there are many--millions in fact--who don't care.
First, I did not see "yeti" when I posted. Second, it's not "a lot", it's a few. Lots are saying they don't find it unattractive. And they are entitled to that. That is not "shaming." Finally, this is ANONYMOUS. I don't know anyone who would say this to someone in person. And they should not. That's the difference. But you should not equate that no one would say it to you with "they aren't thinking it."
In terms of "telling a teen girl they have to shave when they don't want to", I agree they should not be made to do so. But they should be aware of what a lot of people feel about that (notwithstanding the minority of men who find it attractive). And if they still choose it, then that's their choice. Good for them I guess.
If you're going to try and make an argument, leave the hyperbole out of it.
Believing that it’s your obligation to remind teenage girls (and yes it’s remind, not inform, they already know) that they are less attractive to men if they don’t shave means you think it’s important that they be attractive to men. Don’t try to pass it off as this neutral thing.