Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 10:44     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a very high level of antisemitism in thr hispsnic community so at least it’s a shared view with neo Nazis. But it’s also ignored by society as well. Assuming he is neo Nazi I doubt this attack had anything to do with antisemitism.


He killed a Korean family and an Indian woman.

This community has a vibrant and growing affluent Asian and Indian population, including Asian-owned businesses (and landlords).

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the racial/ethnic motive.


He killed white people too. Their names are in the news.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 09:47     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a very high level of antisemitism in thr hispsnic community so at least it’s a shared view with neo Nazis. But it’s also ignored by society as well. Assuming he is neo Nazi I doubt this attack had anything to do with antisemitism.


He killed a Korean family and an Indian woman.

This community has a vibrant and growing affluent Asian and Indian population, including Asian-owned businesses (and landlords).

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the racial/ethnic motive.


Black individuals during the WATTS riots went after Asian-owned businesses. Are those people also white supremacists?

you are confused. It was not the "Watts" riot - that happened in the 60s when there weren't many Asian owned businesses.

You are referring to the LA riots after Rodney King. They went after those businesses because they were largely in the flashpoint area. They also went after black owned stores. All of this is similar to what happened during the Floyd protest. It's not about the race of the store owner but about what store is conveniently nearby where people are protesting.

I lived in LA during those riots, and I'm Korean American.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 09:47     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a very high level of antisemitism in thr hispsnic community so at least it’s a shared view with neo Nazis. But it’s also ignored by society as well. Assuming he is neo Nazi I doubt this attack had anything to do with antisemitism.


He killed a Korean family and an Indian woman.

This community has a vibrant and growing affluent Asian and Indian population, including Asian-owned businesses (and landlords).

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the racial/ethnic motive.


Black individuals during the WATTS riots went after Asian-owned businesses. Are those people also white supremacists?


DP

Have you ever filled out paperwork at the doctor’s office, your kid’s school, etc.?

The demographics ask if you are a non-Hispanic Caucasian. Why? Because many/most Hispanics are considered white. Hispanics can absolutely be white supremacists. Anyone who studies such things or works in diverse communities realizes that all groups have subsets that embrace stereotypes, bias, hate, etc. All groups.

I worry that all the silos people are building to distinguish their group (whether highlighting their plight or their success) are actually fueling hate among others.

It’s human for people who are struggling to search for someone or a group of someone’s to blame for their situation. Hate and hopelessness tend to need a target.

The shooter didn’t live in Allen—an affluent area. The shooter lived in a motel in North Dallas. He targeted an upscale area with an affluent and diverse population.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 09:38     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.


When the AWB was in place, mass shootings went down significantly. When it expired, mass shootings shot up through the roof.
Would an AWB stop all mass shootings? No. But it WOULD stop quite a few of them.

Even though it's a partial and imperfect solution, do not let perfect be the enemy of good.
We need to reinstate an AWB, ALONG WITH pursuing other measures.


Agreed. 100%.

But I’m not convinced we will see a dramatic drop in mass shootings. I think the issue goes far beyond access. Mass shootings in and of themselves have become a cultural phenomenon—a preferred mechanism for damaged people to feel big and powerful as they make their mark. There is a psychological aspect fueled by social media and traditional media coverage coupled with the immortality provided by the internet. I don’t think it’s an apples to apples comparison using data from a time before these kinds of shootings became so common. Times have changed and it’s far more than an access issue.

I wonder if anyone is studying this and has offered more comprehensive solutions?


Sadly this.

Yes more mental health reform but it's obvious that people easily hide behind a façade so no one ever knows
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 09:37     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a very high level of antisemitism in thr hispsnic community so at least it’s a shared view with neo Nazis. But it’s also ignored by society as well. Assuming he is neo Nazi I doubt this attack had anything to do with antisemitism.


He killed a Korean family and an Indian woman.

This community has a vibrant and growing affluent Asian and Indian population, including Asian-owned businesses (and landlords).

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the racial/ethnic motive.


Black individuals during the WATTS riots went after Asian-owned businesses. Are those people also white supremacists?


This post is Fox at it best.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 09:36     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a very high level of antisemitism in thr hispsnic community so at least it’s a shared view with neo Nazis. But it’s also ignored by society as well. Assuming he is neo Nazi I doubt this attack had anything to do with antisemitism.


He killed a Korean family and an Indian woman.

This community has a vibrant and growing affluent Asian and Indian population, including Asian-owned businesses (and landlords).

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the racial/ethnic motive.


Black individuals during the WATTS riots went after Asian-owned businesses. Are those people also white supremacists?
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 09:30     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
Anonymous wrote:I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.


In the short term, it'll prevent the stories we hear about somebody buying a rifle three days ago and triggering a mass murder event. Those shooters without a weapon could still buy or acquire one on the private market, but that's extra effort. In the long term, hopefully the number of usable weapons decreases over time. We won't know for quite a while because this current generation of politicians are simply mass murder enablists and won't do anything (except making weapons easier to acquire and carry in public). Some time down the road, hopefully Gen-Z and later generations will finally fix the problem that a 'well-regulated militia' doesn't mean that everybody can go down to the corner gun store and buy an assault weapon.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 09:24     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
Anonymous wrote:There is a very high level of antisemitism in thr hispsnic community so at least it’s a shared view with neo Nazis. But it’s also ignored by society as well. Assuming he is neo Nazi I doubt this attack had anything to do with antisemitism.


He killed a Korean family and an Indian woman.

This community has a vibrant and growing affluent Asian and Indian population, including Asian-owned businesses (and landlords).

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the racial/ethnic motive.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 09:20     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
There is a very high level of antisemitism in thr hispsnic community so at least it’s a shared view with neo Nazis. But it’s also ignored by society as well. Assuming he is neo Nazi I doubt this attack had anything to do with antisemitism.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 09:08     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
What a time to be a woman in TX. If guns don't kill you pregnancy will.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 09:07     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
We need to adopt the same rules they have for the military with handing out weapons.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 09:02     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.


When the AWB was in place, mass shootings went down significantly. When it expired, mass shootings shot up through the roof.
Would an AWB stop all mass shootings? No. But it WOULD stop quite a few of them.

Even though it's a partial and imperfect solution, do not let perfect be the enemy of good.
We need to reinstate an AWB, ALONG WITH pursuing other measures.


Agreed. 100%.

But I’m not convinced we will see a dramatic drop in mass shootings. I think the issue goes far beyond access. Mass shootings in and of themselves have become a cultural phenomenon—a preferred mechanism for damaged people to feel big and powerful as they make their mark. There is a psychological aspect fueled by social media and traditional media coverage coupled with the immortality provided by the internet. I don’t think it’s an apples to apples comparison using data from a time before these kinds of shootings became so common. Times have changed and it’s far more than an access issue.

I wonder if anyone is studying this and has offered more comprehensive solutions?
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 08:49     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So he’s a Hispanic white supremacist who targeted whites ?


“The FBI’s “review and triage of the subject’s social media accounts revealed hundreds of postings and images to include writings with racially or ethnically motivated violent extremist rhetoric, including neo-Nazi materials and material espousing the supremacy of the white race,” the bulletin reads.

The document also says the alleged shooter was discharged from the military in 2008 amid “mental health concerns.”

Investigators believe the shooter was a neo-Nazi and an “incel,” according to an internal email circulated by Texas law enforcement.”

so, the military knew he had mental health issues but he was still able to buy a gun. MAGA.


And, he worked as a state-licensed armed security guard to boot, meaning Texas would have trusted him enough to guard an elementary school.

This country has to take screening of people entrusted with guns much, much more seriously.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 08:47     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
Anonymous wrote:I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.


When the AWB was in place, mass shootings went down significantly. When it expired, mass shootings shot up through the roof.
Would an AWB stop all mass shootings? No. But it WOULD stop quite a few of them.

Even though it's a partial and imperfect solution, do not let perfect be the enemy of good.
We need to reinstate an AWB, ALONG WITH pursuing other measures.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2023 08:40     Subject: At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today
I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.