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Anonymous wrote:VA for sure due to the amount and diversity of options.

+1 VA's system is unrivaled

Nope, CA is better. More choices. Yes, the state is bigger, but that's why there are more choices.

The California colleges are better than the VA colleges. Just UCLA and Berkeley alone knock UVA out of the water. And then there's the others in CA which rival it.

True, but very few can get into UCLA or Berkeley anyway.

The UC schools have issues, which many on DCUM overlook. Many of the campuses can only house a relatively low percentage of students on campus (Berkeley is 20%) and off-campus housing is often expensive, poor quality, or distant. There are many articles about students living in vans and trailer parks. It is difficult to get required classes, some programs are completely over-enrolled, and undergraduate teaching and advising does not get high ratings.

As a graduate of a CA school, married to a graduate of California school, I concur.

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Anonymous wrote:VA for sure due to the amount and diversity of options.

+1 VA's system is unrivaled

Nope, CA is better. More choices. Yes, the state is bigger, but that's why there are more choices.

The California colleges are better than the VA colleges. Just UCLA and Berkeley alone knock UVA out of the water. And then there's the others in CA which rival it.

True, but very few can get into UCLA or Berkeley anyway.

The UC schools have issues, which many on DCUM overlook. Many of the campuses can only house a relatively low percentage of students on campus (Berkeley is 20%) and off-campus housing is often expensive, poor quality, or distant. There are many articles about students living in vans and trailer parks. It is difficult to get required classes, some programs are completely over-enrolled, and undergraduate teaching and advising does not get high ratings.

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Anonymous wrote:Indiana for Indiana or Purdue.

+1

Great business program at IU and great engineering at Purdue. Or we'd head to Texas for UT-Austin.

Your kid isn’t getting into UT Austin instate unless they’re in the top 3% of the class, and the average DCUM would clutch their pearls at the idea of sending their kid to a high school where that would be more likely.

There are over a dozen state Us in Texas, but if you move there for one school you’re going to be really disappointed.

Not true. It's top 6%.

https://news.utexas.edu/2021/09/21/automatic-admissions-threshold-remains-at-6-for-ut-austin/

Whatever, not a huge difference.

6% is DOUBLE 3%.

Tell me when double isn't a "huge" difference with TX's population.

It does vary by major.

Virginia

Sadly, I think $25k is just what you pay for college these days. I mean, if you commute, you can pay less. Or if you are low income. But Radford and ODU cost that

Anonymous wrote:Are the students who might have gone to the smaller 4 year state schools just not going anymore? Just going to community college?

We have Radford (VA in state) and Slippery Rock (PA oos) on my kiddo’s possible school list. I know another post said Radford’s enrollment had dropped a lot recently. Not sure about SRU, but they were NOT rolled up in the PennWest merger.

I was trying to get a little info earlier on why the Eastern PA merger didn’t happen, because those schools appear to be even smaller than the western ones that merged.

I have friends who went to millersville and shippensburg

PP here. I think it’s a combination of factors. Most small PA towns (where the PASSHE schools tend to be located) have been bleeding population for years, due to the loss of coal mining & manufacturing. There are simply fewer teens in those places than there used to be. They’re also not in places that are easy to commute to, whether you’re a student, faculty or staff member.

Additionally, the state chronically underinvests in higher ed. Thus, schools are charging around $25k/year. Only a couple offer engineering. They’re not worth what they’re charging. A talented high schooler in, say, Manfield can go OOS or to a private for that or cheaper. You can’t turn a corner in PA without hitting a small LAC. Some go to state schools in WV or OH. Others go to PSU satellite campuses as a commuter & either stay the full four years at one or transfer to main campus. Penn State is seen as a better “brand” that the PASSHE schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Indiana for Indiana or Purdue.

+1

Great business program at IU and great engineering at Purdue. Or we'd head to Texas for UT-Austin.

Your kid isn’t getting into UT Austin instate unless they’re in the top 3% of the class, and the average DCUM would clutch their pearls at the idea of sending their kid to a high school where that would be more likely.

There are over a dozen state Us in Texas, but if you move there for one school you’re going to be really disappointed.

Not true. It's top 6%.

https://news.utexas.edu/2021/09/21/automatic-admissions-threshold-remains-at-6-for-ut-austin/

Whatever, not a huge difference.

6% is DOUBLE 3%.

Tell me when double isn't a "huge" difference with TX's population.