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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kayaking instructor isn’t a “crap job” he had to take because IB didn’t want him. That’s something he pursued with intention. There are few times in your life when you can take a paying job doing EXACTLY what you want to do, but age 22 is one of those times. It sounds like a great plan to me and his math degree isn’t going anywhere.
FWIW my kid is at HYP and feeling the pressure to have some amazing career path right out of the gate in no small part because of the culture of the school. I’ve encouraged her to think of her 20s as really “hers” and a time when it’s ok if the path twists around a bit. We aren’t wealthy, she needs and wants to be a self sufficient adult, and the good news is there are so many ways to do that

You are wrong. Your twenties are the time to jump-start your career.

Both you and your DD need to read “The Defining Decade” by Meg Jay. Young adults in their twenties NEED to be gunners.

It’s this goofball again.

Guess what goofball — you don’t get to tell other people how to live their lives. If other people want to mess around in their 20s, it’s not your business at all.

It’s fine to be poor in your 20s. I did, I had a great time, and now I’ve got a paid off house, fully paid school for my kids, and more money than I can use.

Not everyone wants to grind through life maximizing the time value of every cent and every minute.

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Anonymous wrote:When you major in useless easy stuff

Now majoring in Math is a useless easy degree?

DP. But yes, it certainly can be. Some of the laziest people I know are mathematicians, pi in the sky and all that, it can very much be a naval gazing humanities degree. To the extent employers think otherwise, that’s a fairly recent development.

But, if graduated without debt, he’ll be self sustaining as a kayak guide, so good enough.

“Ivy League stem degrees” don’t even have labs, nor compare in level of difficulty or skills learned to a earn a math or engineering BS degree from Georgia tech, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, a service academy, CalTech, or top flagship state schools. And certainly can’t hold a candle to math at IIt, Oxbridge, Todai, ecole systems.

Ask anyone that hires or wants the trainability of a true mathematician what they think of the coursework and driven of HYP math major.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kayaking instructor isn’t a “crap job” he had to take because IB didn’t want him. That’s something he pursued with intention. There are few times in your life when you can take a paying job doing EXACTLY what you want to do, but age 22 is one of those times. It sounds like a great plan to me and his math degree isn’t going anywhere.
FWIW my kid is at HYP and feeling the pressure to have some amazing career path right out of the gate in no small part because of the culture of the school. I’ve encouraged her to think of her 20s as really “hers” and a time when it’s ok if the path twists around a bit. We aren’t wealthy, she needs and wants to be a self sufficient adult, and the good news is there are so many ways to do that

You are wrong. Your twenties are the time to jump-start your career.

Both you and your DD need to read “The Defining Decade” by Meg Jay. Young adults in their twenties NEED to be gunners.

It’s this goofball again.

Guess what goofball — you don’t get to tell other people how to live their lives. If other people want to mess around in their 20s, it’s not your business at all.

It’s fine to be poor in your 20s. I did, I had a great time, and now I’ve got a paid off house, fully paid school for my kids, and more money than I can use.

Not everyone wants to grind through life maximizing the time value of every cent and every minute.

NP here. I kind of agree with your point, but you undermine your argument when you insult the PP by calling him/her a goofball. I tend to be more persuaded by people who make their point without attacking a person.

Anonymous wrote:I’m the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I tried my hand at majoring in math at a regional state school. Got to Calc II (which went fine) and then an introduction to proofs class. I found it brutally hard; nearly failed it. So the idea what somewhat motivated enough to finish a BS in math would decide to go be a kayak instructor is odd.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kayaking instructor isn’t a “crap job” he had to take because IB didn’t want him. That’s something he pursued with intention. There are few times in your life when you can take a paying job doing EXACTLY what you want to do, but age 22 is one of those times. It sounds like a great plan to me and his math degree isn’t going anywhere.
FWIW my kid is at HYP and feeling the pressure to have some amazing career path right out of the gate in no small part because of the culture of the school. I’ve encouraged her to think of her 20s as really “hers” and a time when it’s ok if the path twists around a bit. We aren’t wealthy, she needs and wants to be a self sufficient adult, and the good news is there are so many ways to do that

You are wrong. Your twenties are the time to jump-start your career.

Both you and your DD need to read “The Defining Decade” by Meg Jay. Young adults in their twenties NEED to be gunners.

It’s this goofball again.

Guess what goofball — you don’t get to tell other people how to live their lives. If other people want to mess around in their 20s, it’s not your business at all.

It’s fine to be poor in your 20s. I did, I had a great time, and now I’ve got a paid off house, fully paid school for my kids, and more money than I can use.

Not everyone wants to grind through life maximizing the time value of every cent and every minute.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kayaking instructor isn’t a “crap job” he had to take because IB didn’t want him. That’s something he pursued with intention. There are few times in your life when you can take a paying job doing EXACTLY what you want to do, but age 22 is one of those times. It sounds like a great plan to me and his math degree isn’t going anywhere.
FWIW my kid is at HYP and feeling the pressure to have some amazing career path right out of the gate in no small part because of the culture of the school. I’ve encouraged her to think of her 20s as really “hers” and a time when it’s ok if the path twists around a bit. We aren’t wealthy, she needs and wants to be a self sufficient adult, and the good news is there are so many ways to do that

You are wrong. Your twenties are the time to jump-start your career.

Both you and your DD need to read “The Defining Decade” by Meg Jay. Young adults in their twenties NEED to be gunners.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.

Interesting point.

Op- find out if the kid secured a job offer and is deferring 12 months.

That is common in banking and consulting during a downturn. They hire 6-12 mos before the summer training program begins and instead of rescinding offers they offer deferrals.

In my DC’s field, the typical start date is in the September or October after graduating. This is to give time to make a dent in the set of professional exams this profession requires.

Ok.

If you already signed a lease they’ll plug you into a different role and have you defer a year. Better than rolling the dice on 1-3 rounds of layoffs; you’re protected for 12 mos.