Anonymous wrote:When "college prep" is no longer college prep, why bother. Just take your chances with public and the way the demographics fall. That's the new coin of the realm, not achievement and preparation. Of course, the truly affluent and connected are still pulling strings. This hurts more the hardworking upper middle class families who value college prep.

LOL, so only the hardworking UMC value college prep?

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Anonymous wrote:syracuse and drexel? cmon very very mid - not impressed

Let’s not pick on specific kids.

+1

Money power respect it’s the key to life

Anonymous wrote:syracuse and drexel? cmon very very mid - not impressed

Let’s not pick on specific kids.

Anonymous wrote:syracuse and drexel? cmon very very mid - not impressed

All of these schools have a smattering a kids going to American, Bucknell, VT, GWU, Drexel etc

syracuse and drexel? cmon very very mid - not impressed

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Anonymous wrote:Money wins.

This. The kid whose father is endowing chairs or leading a building campaign could send their kid to a for profit diploma mill and the colleges wouldn’t care

I’m afraid you’re not cynical enough yet. At a certain price point, any school can be a diploma mill. Boarding schools need new buildings too.

All the Dalton guys I went to school with were d—cks.

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This. The kid whose father is endowing chairs or leading a building campaign could send their kid to a for profit diploma mill and the colleges wouldn’t care

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the 60k+ tuition crowd worries too much about the cost of preschool.

For the unwashed masses, NYC has universal PreK and 3K now. Thanks for something, Deblasio.

Or some kids start at public and then switch over, usually repeating a grade. That's pretty common, even when you're entering at middle school. (not common for HS)

Do these privates accept a kid who attended public school during their entry years?

Sure. A lot of these school expand in 6th and/or 9th. I've never been shocked by who gets admitted at that point. They're ringers. The proven athlete, the kids with broadway credits, the Oliver Scholar (URM and first gen ) who already has impressive math awards. It's hard to predict much when a kid is 4. It gets easier when they have a resume.

Are there a lot of top athletes in NYC? I can't imagine NYC has a ton of D1 athletes.

why?

Field sports are dominated by states where they can be played year round. Volleyball and basketball require height and athleticism which can't be purchased. I wouldn't be shocked if they dominated fencing, squash, and equestrian

I'm not following. The kids who are the tops at Basketball City (a nyc thing) get into a lot of private schools. And pay a very low tuition. The TT privates in nyc have a lot of money to give. If you can get in. There are plenty of top athletes in NYC across a lot sports

NYC isn’t the basketball recruiting hotbed that it used to be. PG produces better recruits now

Money wins.

When "college prep" is no longer college prep, why bother. Just take your chances with public and the way the demographics fall. That's the new coin of the realm, not achievement and preparation. Of course, the truly affluent and connected are still pulling strings. This hurts more the hardworking upper middle class families who value college prep.

Anonymous wrote:8 Harvard matriculations from one class?!?

It used to be a lot more than 8! The top schools have diversified an incredible amount. I am sure the Dalton families are upset it wasn't 12.

I am not waxing nostalgic for the old days, just saying that I went to a Dalton-like school in New England and, back then, people were so upset that 50% of the class no longer went to Harvard. I think 10% of my graduating class did . I am sure it is a third of that now.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the HYP admits is (surprise) a top 5 US squash player.

What I'm interested in is the social dynamic at these schools if everyone is either a billionaire or Prep for Prep. There is some of this at the DC high schools and it can get toxic. here we do have a few families from the professional working class.

There’s a club in. Brooklyn Heights where all of the wealthy neighborhood kids learn to play squash. Almost all become nationally ranked. Back in the 80s and 90s, they all got into ivies. A lot attended Trinity.

Spence is also kind of known for squash. They have an amazing new facility.

Potomac School is trying to do this here. Rich girls getting a lot of private lessons.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the HYP admits is (surprise) a top 5 US squash player.

What I'm interested in is the social dynamic at these schools if everyone is either a billionaire or Prep for Prep. There is some of this at the DC high schools and it can get toxic. here we do have a few families from the professional working class.

This is the same dynamic as at top colleges, no? I actually think the FA is better at top nyc schools and boarding schools than most colleges.

Yes, though Dalton is not the lead in FA.