Having good engineering schools is overrated (especially for undergrads). All you really need is fairly good CS at this point.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It impresses me how consistently Northwestern appears to rank in the top 10 in these kinds of lists.

I have a degree from there. I just don’t think that it seemed that amazing. The students were fine, but just fine. I can’t remember anyone there talking about any form of media they’d consumed outside of class, or even about doing anything interesting outside of class. So, it’s hard to see why Northwestern would outrank a place like Brown or Rice.

My wife went to Northwestern and her circle of friends from college are all extremely intelligent, successful, and very well-read across a truly impressive breadth. I have a hard time believing your anecdote, let alone your faux incredulity at Northwestern outranking "a place like Brown or Rice," schools that it has consistently outranked for pretty much its entire existence.

I think it’s a Northeastern troll

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this and thought it was interesting. Basically someone took the average ranking of each college from these sources and created a composite rank for each school relative to all the other schools. It was noted schools like Georgetown and Duke were underranked by US News and schools like UChicago and JHU were overranked. Some of these rankings included focus more on academics and some more on ROI, so with a composite I believe the idea was to see which schools excel in all the important metrics for undergrad.

100% UChicago is way overrated by US News. In today’s world you can’t be a truly top university without an engineering program.

But, you can be considered a truly top university without a top Engineering program. There are quite a few of those listed here.

No school in US News top 10 has a weak engineering program. The weakest is Yale and they're not terrible.

My point is if you’re a top ten school, you should be close to/in the top ten in all disciplines. Harvard is not close to top ten in Engineering. Neither is Yale or Duke.

Harvard is 27th for undergrad engineering, Duke is 16th, and Yale is 33rd. Not bad at all, especially considering Harvard has a dedicated engineering school 15 minutes across the river from it called MIT.

Berkeley has Stanford across the bay. That doesn’t seem to affect either school in their standings.

Yea it's not exactly comparable... you can literally walk across a bridge to get from Harvard to MIT, by car it's 3 minutes. Getting from Stanford to Berkeley by car is over an hour, and with the traffic in the area give it at least an extra 30 minutes.

That’s still doesn’t explain why Harvard isn’t a top school in Engineering.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It impresses me how consistently Northwestern appears to rank in the top 10 in these kinds of lists.

I have a degree from there. I just don’t think that it seemed that amazing. The students were fine, but just fine. I can’t remember anyone there talking about any form of media they’d consumed outside of class, or even about doing anything interesting outside of class. So, it’s hard to see why Northwestern would outrank a place like Brown or Rice.

My wife went to Northwestern and her circle of friends from college are all extremely intelligent, successful, and very well-read across a truly impressive breadth. I have a hard time believing your anecdote, let alone your faux incredulity at Northwestern outranking "a place like Brown or Rice," schools that it has consistently outranked for pretty much its entire existence.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this and thought it was interesting. Basically someone took the average ranking of each college from these sources and created a composite rank for each school relative to all the other schools. It was noted schools like Georgetown and Duke were underranked by US News and schools like UChicago and JHU were overranked. Some of these rankings included focus more on academics and some more on ROI, so with a composite I believe the idea was to see which schools excel in all the important metrics for undergrad.

100% UChicago is way overrated by US News. In today’s world you can’t be a truly top university without an engineering program.

But, you can be considered a truly top university without a top Engineering program. There are quite a few of those listed here.

No school in US News top 10 has a weak engineering program. The weakest is Yale and they're not terrible.

My point is if you’re a top ten school, you should be close to/in the top ten in all disciplines. Harvard is not close to top ten in Engineering. Neither is Yale or Duke.

Harvard is 27th for undergrad engineering, Duke is 16th, and Yale is 33rd. Not bad at all, especially considering Harvard has a dedicated engineering school 15 minutes across the river from it called MIT.

Berkeley has Stanford across the bay. That doesn’t seem to affect either school in their standings.

Yea it's not exactly comparable... you can literally walk across a bridge to get from Harvard to MIT, by car it's 3 minutes. Getting from Stanford to Berkeley by car is over an hour, and with the traffic in the area give it at least an extra 30 minutes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this and thought it was interesting. Basically someone took the average ranking of each college from these sources and created a composite rank for each school relative to all the other schools. It was noted schools like Georgetown and Duke were underranked by US News and schools like UChicago and JHU were overranked. Some of these rankings included focus more on academics and some more on ROI, so with a composite I believe the idea was to see which schools excel in all the important metrics for undergrad.

100% UChicago is way overrated by US News. In today’s world you can’t be a truly top university without an engineering program.

But, you can be considered a truly top university without a top Engineering program. There are quite a few of those listed here.

No school in US News top 10 has a weak engineering program. The weakest is Yale and they're not terrible.

My point is if you’re a top ten school, you should be close to/in the top ten in all disciplines. Harvard is not close to top ten in Engineering. Neither is Yale or Duke.

Harvard is 27th for undergrad engineering, Duke is 16th, and Yale is 33rd. Not bad at all, especially considering Harvard has a dedicated engineering school 15 minutes across the river from it called MIT.

Berkeley has Stanford across the bay. That doesn’t seem to affect either school in their standings.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this and thought it was interesting. Basically someone took the average ranking of each college from these sources and created a composite rank for each school relative to all the other schools. It was noted schools like Georgetown and Duke were underranked by US News and schools like UChicago and JHU were overranked. Some of these rankings included focus more on academics and some more on ROI, so with a composite I believe the idea was to see which schools excel in all the important metrics for undergrad.

100% UChicago is way overrated by US News. In today’s world you can’t be a truly top university without an engineering program.

But, you can be considered a truly top university without a top Engineering program. There are quite a few of those listed here.

No school in US News top 10 has a weak engineering program. The weakest is Yale and they're not terrible.

My point is if you’re a top ten school, you should be close to/in the top ten in all disciplines. Harvard is not close to top ten in Engineering. Neither is Yale or Duke.

Harvard is 27th for undergrad engineering, Duke is 16th, and Yale is 33rd. Not bad at all, especially considering Harvard has a dedicated engineering school 15 minutes across the river from it called MIT.

“Not bad at all” doesn’t sound like a ringing endorsement for an elite school. .

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this and thought it was interesting. Basically someone took the average ranking of each college from these sources and created a composite rank for each school relative to all the other schools. It was noted schools like Georgetown and Duke were underranked by US News and schools like UChicago and JHU were overranked. Some of these rankings included focus more on academics and some more on ROI, so with a composite I believe the idea was to see which schools excel in all the important metrics for undergrad.

100% UChicago is way overrated by US News. In today’s world you can’t be a truly top university without an engineering program.

But, you can be considered a truly top university without a top Engineering program. There are quite a few of those listed here.

No school in US News top 10 has a weak engineering program. The weakest is Yale and they're not terrible.

My point is if you’re a top ten school, you should be close to/in the top ten in all disciplines. Harvard is not close to top ten in Engineering. Neither is Yale or Duke.

Harvard is 27th for undergrad engineering, Duke is 16th, and Yale is 33rd. Not bad at all, especially considering Harvard has a dedicated engineering school 15 minutes across the river from it called MIT.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U Chicago ranking in this table is extremely low.
U Chicago offers very strong undergraduate and postgraduate
and advance degrees.
it does not care about legacy and some other hooks as much
but
they do care if you are full pay and went to a prep school.

And I just don’t think Duke outranks Brown, let alone Harvard or Yale. And it’s really just a Southern version of Northwestern; it should rank about where Northwestern ranks.

I don't think you understand Duke then. Lots of people on here give it an anti-intellectual reputation (probably because of basketball) but there are many intellectually curious kids there. Duke graduates have actually have the 5th most major postgrad scholarships (Rhodes, Truman, Cambridge, Goldwater, Udall) since the 1980s only behind Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and Princeton, and 1 spot ahead of MIT. My cousin is a researcher at a major national lab and went to Duke for undergrad (and Caltech for his PhD), and he remains extremely dedicated to scientific discovery and the pursuit of knowledge

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It impresses me how consistently Northwestern appears to rank in the top 10 in these kinds of lists.

I have a degree from there. I just don’t think that it seemed that amazing. The students were fine, but just fine. I can’t remember anyone there talking about any form of media they’d consumed outside of class, or even about doing anything interesting outside of class. So, it’s hard to see why Northwestern would outrank a place like Brown or Rice.

How would Brown or Rice be any better? Brown aren't clear leaders in any academic subject. What was your major at Northwestern?

Anonymous wrote:It impresses me how consistently Northwestern appears to rank in the top 10 in these kinds of lists.

I have a degree from there. I just don’t think that it seemed that amazing. The students were fine, but just fine. I can’t remember anyone there talking about any form of media they’d consumed outside of class, or even about doing anything interesting outside of class. So, it’s hard to see why Northwestern would outrank a place like Brown or Rice.

Anonymous wrote:U Chicago ranking in this table is extremely low.
U Chicago offers very strong undergraduate and postgraduate
and advance degrees.
it does not care about legacy and some other hooks as much
but
they do care if you are full pay and went to a prep school.

And I just don’t think Duke outranks Brown, let alone Harvard or Yale. And it’s really just a Southern version of Northwestern; it should rank about where Northwestern ranks.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this and thought it was interesting. Basically someone took the average ranking of each college from these sources and created a composite rank for each school relative to all the other schools. It was noted schools like Georgetown and Duke were underranked by US News and schools like UChicago and JHU were overranked. Some of these rankings included focus more on academics and some more on ROI, so with a composite I believe the idea was to see which schools excel in all the important metrics for undergrad.

100% UChicago is way overrated by US News. In today’s world you can’t be a truly top university without an engineering program.

But, you can be considered a truly top university without a top Engineering program. There are quite a few of those listed here.

No school in US News top 10 has a weak engineering program. The weakest is Yale and they're not terrible.

My point is if you’re a top ten school, you should be close to/in the top ten in all disciplines. Harvard is not close to top ten in Engineering. Neither is Yale or Duke.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this and thought it was interesting. Basically someone took the average ranking of each college from these sources and created a composite rank for each school relative to all the other schools. It was noted schools like Georgetown and Duke were underranked by US News and schools like UChicago and JHU were overranked. Some of these rankings included focus more on academics and some more on ROI, so with a composite I believe the idea was to see which schools excel in all the important metrics for undergrad.

100% UChicago is way overrated by US News. In today’s world you can’t be a truly top university without an engineering program.

But, you can be considered a truly top university without a top Engineering program. There are quite a few of those listed here.

No school in US News top 10 has a weak engineering program. The weakest is Yale and they're not terrible.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this and thought it was interesting. Basically someone took the average ranking of each college from these sources and created a composite rank for each school relative to all the other schools. It was noted schools like Georgetown and Duke were underranked by US News and schools like UChicago and JHU were overranked. Some of these rankings included focus more on academics and some more on ROI, so with a composite I believe the idea was to see which schools excel in all the important metrics for undergrad.

100% UChicago is way overrated by US News. In today’s world you can’t be a truly top university without an engineering program.

But, you can be considered a truly top university without a top Engineering program. There are quite a few of those listed here.