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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

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Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

Turns out there were in fact arrests and indictments of people who made threats over the Loudoun County Stone Bridge High School rape. https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/alexandria-man-31-charged-with-making-threats-to-loudoun-high-school/article_83bd263e-5337-11ec-a1b4-5b0a55b44cc4.html

That, combined with the fact that the far right did in fact make it about trans bathrooms, casts doubt on YOUR version of events.

DP. So, you realize that ONE arrest =/= "arrests and indictments of people," right? One person was arrested. Are any of your posts truthful?

Same pp claimed that the people at the Loudon school board meetings were also at the Capitol on Jan 6. Probably has a wall with red string and pics of randos.

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

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Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

Turns out there were in fact arrests and indictments of people who made threats over the Loudoun County Stone Bridge High School rape. https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/alexandria-man-31-charged-with-making-threats-to-loudoun-high-school/article_83bd263e-5337-11ec-a1b4-5b0a55b44cc4.html

That, combined with the fact that the far right did in fact make it about trans bathrooms, casts doubt on YOUR version of events.

DP. So, you realize that ONE arrest =/= "arrests and indictments of people," right? One person was arrested. Are any of your posts truthful?

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I'm not going to pretend that we havent been teaching slavery, the Underground Railroad, segregation and Jim Crow in schools. I learned about this in school. So did you. That is how we all know about it.

So the question is, do you think our kids should continue learning about slavery? I feel like most people would say yes. Slavery is part of our history. It happened.
But...if you purposely mislabel the teaching of slavery as "critical race theory" then you can muddy the waters without seeming overtly racist. It's a dog whistle.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2022/06/29/florida-teachers-raise-concerns-about-new-civics-training-say-it-downplays-slavery-promotes-originalism/

Yes. Literally no one is advocating for the removal of history lessons about slavery. In fact, I think the lessons need to go further with actual names of significant slaves in history, such as notable military figures, Sally Hemmings and Thomas Jefferson's kids, etc.

CRT has nothing to do with teaching history accurately.

You don't know what CRT is or isn't, other than it's a convenient bogeyman word to trigger the right wing.

And you think that no one learned about slavery in schools until BLM showed up. We all just fell off the apple cart, not sure who Harriett Tubman is, learning about slavery through vague rumors.

THIS ^^. What a bunch of poseurs.

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

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Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

Turns out there were in fact arrests and indictments of people who made threats over the Loudoun County Stone Bridge High School rape. https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/alexandria-man-31-charged-with-making-threats-to-loudoun-high-school/article_83bd263e-5337-11ec-a1b4-5b0a55b44cc4.html

That, combined with the fact that the far right did in fact make it about trans bathrooms, casts doubt on YOUR version of events.

DP. So, you realize that ONE arrest =/= "arrests and indictments of people," right? One person was arrested. Are any of your posts truthful?

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Anonymous wrote:Authoritarians eliminate or degrade education to ensure the opinions of "the leader" supersede facts and rationale.

You see it in this thread where people repeat right wing mantra rather than looking at primary sources. Example: In Ohio, the governor literally said that he put off the Biden Administration in helping with the train derailment and yet, we see people castigating Secretary Pete and the President for their lack of Federal response.

Unless or until we can get everyone on the same page in terms of basic facts and how to parse information, we will be at risk for authoritarianism in this country.

Degrading public education and using public dollars for religious schools is a losing proposition.

When Harvards dropped the SAT and ACT, it was hailed as a progressive act of fairness that would increase opportunity for "bipocs." When Florida even considers the same thing, they are authoritarians seeking to degrade education.

I mean next thing, DeSantis is going to make Minnie Mouse wear a burqa, amirite? All those crazy Christofascists in Florida!

Exactly.

ACT/SAT measure "aptitude" whereas the AP measures actual knowledge, so, no, not exactly.

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I'm not going to pretend that we havent been teaching slavery, the Underground Railroad, segregation and Jim Crow in schools. I learned about this in school. So did you. That is how we all know about it.

So the question is, do you think our kids should continue learning about slavery? I feel like most people would say yes. Slavery is part of our history. It happened.
But...if you purposely mislabel the teaching of slavery as "critical race theory" then you can muddy the waters without seeming overtly racist. It's a dog whistle.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2022/06/29/florida-teachers-raise-concerns-about-new-civics-training-say-it-downplays-slavery-promotes-originalism/

Yes. Literally no one is advocating for the removal of history lessons about slavery. In fact, I think the lessons need to go further with actual names of significant slaves in history, such as notable military figures, Sally Hemmings and Thomas Jefferson's kids, etc.

CRT has nothing to do with teaching history accurately.

You don't know what CRT is or isn't, other than it's a convenient bogeyman word to trigger the right wing.

And you think that no one learned about slavery in schools until BLM showed up. We all just fell off the apple cart, not sure who Harriett Tubman is, learning about slavery through vague rumors.

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The only people (deliberately) mislabeling the teaching of slavery as "CRT" are liberals. It's been stated again and again that teaching the factual history of slavery is NOT CRT, and is not considered such. Liberals continue to twist words and insist that the teaching of slavery is what is being objected to. Complete lies.

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

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Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

Turns out there were in fact arrests and indictments of people who made threats over the Loudoun County Stone Bridge High School rape. https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/alexandria-man-31-charged-with-making-threats-to-loudoun-high-school/article_83bd263e-5337-11ec-a1b4-5b0a55b44cc4.html

That, combined with the fact that the far right did in fact make it about trans bathrooms, casts doubt on YOUR version of events.

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I'm not going to pretend that we havent been teaching slavery, the Underground Railroad, segregation and Jim Crow in schools. I learned about this in school. So did you. That is how we all know about it.

So the question is, do you think our kids should continue learning about slavery? I feel like most people would say yes. Slavery is part of our history. It happened.
But...if you purposely mislabel the teaching of slavery as "critical race theory" then you can muddy the waters without seeming overtly racist. It's a dog whistle.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2022/06/29/florida-teachers-raise-concerns-about-new-civics-training-say-it-downplays-slavery-promotes-originalism/

Yes. Literally no one is advocating for the removal of history lessons about slavery. In fact, I think the lessons need to go further with actual names of significant slaves in history, such as notable military figures, Sally Hemmings and Thomas Jefferson's kids, etc.

CRT has nothing to do with teaching history accurately.

You don't know what CRT is or isn't, other than it's a convenient bogeyman word to trigger the right wing.

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

+1
Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

Ahh, a red herring fabricated by the left wing. Funny, because last night I saw an entire thread full of endless screeching about people with penises in womens bathrooms and they definitely weren't liberals.

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Anonymous wrote:Authoritarians eliminate or degrade education to ensure the opinions of "the leader" supersede facts and rationale.

You see it in this thread where people repeat right wing mantra rather than looking at primary sources. Example: In Ohio, the governor literally said that he put off the Biden Administration in helping with the train derailment and yet, we see people castigating Secretary Pete and the President for their lack of Federal response.

Unless or until we can get everyone on the same page in terms of basic facts and how to parse information, we will be at risk for authoritarianism in this country.

Degrading public education and using public dollars for religious schools is a losing proposition.

When Harvards dropped the SAT and ACT, it was hailed as a progressive act of fairness that would increase opportunity for "bipocs." When Florida even considers the same thing, they are authoritarians seeking to degrade education.

I mean next thing, DeSantis is going to make Minnie Mouse wear a burqa, amirite? All those crazy Christofascists in Florida!

Exactly.

ACT/SAT measure "aptitude" whereas the AP measures actual knowledge, so, no, not exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

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Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

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I'm not going to pretend that we havent been teaching slavery, the Underground Railroad, segregation and Jim Crow in schools. I learned about this in school. So did you. That is how we all know about it.

So the question is, do you think our kids should continue learning about slavery? I feel like most people would say yes. Slavery is part of our history. It happened.
But...if you purposely mislabel the teaching of slavery as "critical race theory" then you can muddy the waters without seeming overtly racist. It's a dog whistle.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2022/06/29/florida-teachers-raise-concerns-about-new-civics-training-say-it-downplays-slavery-promotes-originalism/

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Anonymous wrote:Authoritarians eliminate or degrade education to ensure the opinions of "the leader" supersede facts and rationale.

You see it in this thread where people repeat right wing mantra rather than looking at primary sources. Example: In Ohio, the governor literally said that he put off the Biden Administration in helping with the train derailment and yet, we see people castigating Secretary Pete and the President for their lack of Federal response.

Unless or until we can get everyone on the same page in terms of basic facts and how to parse information, we will be at risk for authoritarianism in this country.

Degrading public education and using public dollars for religious schools is a losing proposition.

This is such BS, I can't believe you had the nerve to post it. Shame on you. Gov. DeWine and FEMA have been working together from the beginning.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/02/17/ohio-train-derailment-fema/