Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 13:08     Subject: Re:Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Okay I did some searching, but can someone PLEASE tell me the origin of Brunch Granny?

Dying....


I can't remember the exact original and there may not have been one thread -- I think there were a few and the same poster kept coming in and posting the exact same argument. Often in the relationship or fertility forums, but also in general parenting or really any thread where anyone talked about having kids past the age of 35, focusing on career in 20s, choosing to marry later, enjoying being single, etc.

Brunch Granny's main argument is that young women in their 20s and 30s spend too much time having brunch and drinking mimosas at trendy restaurants "in the city" and not enough time getting married and pumping out babies. That's really the whole gist. Brunch Granny is extremely triggered by the idea that any woman over the age of 22 might enjoy doing anything at all without first securing marriage and having at least one child before her fertility is lost forever to the ravages of time. She's very stressed about it!

Also, Brunch Granny likes to brag to people about how she had children in her 20s and then her children had kids in their 20s, so she got to be a Granny before 50 and spend lots of quality time with her grandchildren for whom, presumably, she is already matchmaking. Brunch Granny feels terrible for people who become grandparents in [GASP!] their 60s, when apparently they will be too old and decrepit to enjoy their grandchildren at all, and will instead spend their days lamenting all those mimosas chased by avocado toast they enjoyed in their 20s.


How would a 43 year old mother become a grandparent in their 60s? You're expecting your ivf baby to get knocked up fresh out of college? Why wouldn't her (ivf) baby also wait until 40 to have a baby? If that's the case, the 43 year old mum will likely be dead before she sees a hypothetical grandchild.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 12:53     Subject: Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to a simple “congratulations” when someone announces a pregnancy?


Because rich celebrities trafficking dis and misinformation about women's fertility and health is disgusting and should be called out.

You peddling your bitter and jealous screed is what needs to be called out.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 12:52     Subject: Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She has now straight-out said it's an 'oops' baby.
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/pictures/golden-globes-2023-claire-danes-says-pregnancy-was-not-intentional/


There you have it ladies - don't blow off birth control if you don't want a baby in your 40s!


Oh, please. The data and science still shows likelihood of pregnancy is exceptionally low at 40. Whether she is telling the truth or not, I have no idea. Can women that are 42 get pregnant? Absolutely. Is it common? Absolutely not.
I get that women don't like aging and, for some, fertility is interwoven with desirability/self worth. This thread seems to be in denial about age and fertility realities but we really need to let this go. It is ok to recognize that aging and being in your 40s means certain changes. Fertility is in decline and pregnancies are less likely. The fact that a celebrity is pregnant at 43 does not negate that fact.


No one in this thread, or anywhere, has claimed it’s easy for most women to get pregnant in their 40s. No one advises young women to postpone kids until their 40s. No one!

You are angry about a thing that doesn’t exist.


You need to relax, lady. No one is angry. I am pointing out that this board is perpetually misleading and often misstates facts re fertility. There are dozens of anecdotal PPs above sharing how easy pregnancy is in 40s, which is purposefully misleading and doesn't reference context. My statements are on point.
I think this issue usually gets PPs upset because DC metro swings older pregnancy. I don't think that I've been any place that had as many advanced maternal age mothers as this area, which is why everyone is so defensive - and wrongly insisting that pregnancy in 40s is FINE.


You've never been to any other major city?

Pregnancy in the 40s is totally fine. WTAF?


It's really not. It's incredibly rare and incredibly dangerous to the mother and child. You're either trolling or some spinster in denial. It's also probably why so many of you on this forum worship Markle; holding out hope you bag a rich guy and pop out two kids. Sorry, life isn't a fairy tale.

You sound like an ignorant drama llama. And what does Meghan Markle have to do with anything?
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 12:33     Subject: Re:Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Okay I did some searching, but can someone PLEASE tell me the origin of Brunch Granny?

Dying....


I can't remember the exact original and there may not have been one thread -- I think there were a few and the same poster kept coming in and posting the exact same argument. Often in the relationship or fertility forums, but also in general parenting or really any thread where anyone talked about having kids past the age of 35, focusing on career in 20s, choosing to marry later, enjoying being single, etc.

Brunch Granny's main argument is that young women in their 20s and 30s spend too much time having brunch and drinking mimosas at trendy restaurants "in the city" and not enough time getting married and pumping out babies. That's really the whole gist. Brunch Granny is extremely triggered by the idea that any woman over the age of 22 might enjoy doing anything at all without first securing marriage and having at least one child before her fertility is lost forever to the ravages of time. She's very stressed about it!

Also, Brunch Granny likes to brag to people about how she had children in her 20s and then her children had kids in their 20s, so she got to be a Granny before 50 and spend lots of quality time with her grandchildren for whom, presumably, she is already matchmaking. Brunch Granny feels terrible for people who become grandparents in [GASP!] their 60s, when apparently they will be too old and decrepit to enjoy their grandchildren at all, and will instead spend their days lamenting all those mimosas chased by avocado toast they enjoyed in their 20s.


I think brunch granny / Tucker's argument is millions of 20 30 and 40 somethings will NEVER be grandparents because they'll never have kids (barren before trying) or they'll die before their IVF baby marries and procreates.


Brunch Granny/Tucker is predictably very inconsistent in their argument because they believe women (only women, Brunch Granny doesn't care how old fathers are or what they do with their 20s) who have children after age 30 are irresponsible and selfish BUT they also really want everyone to have children.

Occasionally I've seen people patiently explain to Brunch Granny that even people who really want to get married and have kids in their 20s don't always have the opportunity to do so, because they struggle to find a partner who wants the same thing, or they encounter infertility as early as their early 20s. Brunch Granny gets very confused by these stories and just retreats to the same nonsensical talking points about selfish women brunching in their 20s when they should be pregnant. Much like the angry fertility poster on this thread. If it's not Brunch Granny undercover, it's a kindred spirit!
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 12:31     Subject: Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to a simple “congratulations” when someone announces a pregnancy?


Because rich celebrities trafficking dis and misinformation about women's fertility and health is disgusting and should be called out.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 12:29     Subject: Re:Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Okay I did some searching, but can someone PLEASE tell me the origin of Brunch Granny?

Dying....


I can't remember the exact original and there may not have been one thread -- I think there were a few and the same poster kept coming in and posting the exact same argument. Often in the relationship or fertility forums, but also in general parenting or really any thread where anyone talked about having kids past the age of 35, focusing on career in 20s, choosing to marry later, enjoying being single, etc.

Brunch Granny's main argument is that young women in their 20s and 30s spend too much time having brunch and drinking mimosas at trendy restaurants "in the city" and not enough time getting married and pumping out babies. That's really the whole gist. Brunch Granny is extremely triggered by the idea that any woman over the age of 22 might enjoy doing anything at all without first securing marriage and having at least one child before her fertility is lost forever to the ravages of time. She's very stressed about it!

Also, Brunch Granny likes to brag to people about how she had children in her 20s and then her children had kids in their 20s, so she got to be a Granny before 50 and spend lots of quality time with her grandchildren for whom, presumably, she is already matchmaking. Brunch Granny feels terrible for people who become grandparents in [GASP!] their 60s, when apparently they will be too old and decrepit to enjoy their grandchildren at all, and will instead spend their days lamenting all those mimosas chased by avocado toast they enjoyed in their 20s.


I think brunch granny / Tucker's argument is millions of 20 30 and 40 somethings will NEVER be grandparents because they'll never have kids (barren before trying) or they'll die before their IVF baby marries and procreates.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 12:27     Subject: Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She has now straight-out said it's an 'oops' baby.
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/pictures/golden-globes-2023-claire-danes-says-pregnancy-was-not-intentional/


There you have it ladies - don't blow off birth control if you don't want a baby in your 40s!


Oh, please. The data and science still shows likelihood of pregnancy is exceptionally low at 40. Whether she is telling the truth or not, I have no idea. Can women that are 42 get pregnant? Absolutely. Is it common? Absolutely not.
I get that women don't like aging and, for some, fertility is interwoven with desirability/self worth. This thread seems to be in denial about age and fertility realities but we really need to let this go. It is ok to recognize that aging and being in your 40s means certain changes. Fertility is in decline and pregnancies are less likely. The fact that a celebrity is pregnant at 43 does not negate that fact.


No one in this thread, or anywhere, has claimed it’s easy for most women to get pregnant in their 40s. No one advises young women to postpone kids until their 40s. No one!

You are angry about a thing that doesn’t exist.


You need to relax, lady. No one is angry. I am pointing out that this board is perpetually misleading and often misstates facts re fertility. There are dozens of anecdotal PPs above sharing how easy pregnancy is in 40s, which is purposefully misleading and doesn't reference context. My statements are on point.
I think this issue usually gets PPs upset because DC metro swings older pregnancy. I don't think that I've been any place that had as many advanced maternal age mothers as this area, which is why everyone is so defensive - and wrongly insisting that pregnancy in 40s is FINE.


You've never been to any other major city?

Pregnancy in the 40s is totally fine. WTAF?


It's really not. It's incredibly rare and incredibly dangerous to the mother and child. You're either trolling or some spinster in denial. It's also probably why so many of you on this forum worship Markle; holding out hope you bag a rich guy and pop out two kids. Sorry, life isn't a fairy tale.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 12:24     Subject: Re:Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Okay I did some searching, but can someone PLEASE tell me the origin of Brunch Granny?

Dying....

S/he may be Tucker Carlson.


Was Tucker Carlson "Brunch Granny"? Women waste fertility on "brunch, Netflix, and white wine"
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1067632.page
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 12:18     Subject: Re:Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Okay I did some searching, but can someone PLEASE tell me the origin of Brunch Granny?

Dying....


I can't remember the exact original and there may not have been one thread -- I think there were a few and the same poster kept coming in and posting the exact same argument. Often in the relationship or fertility forums, but also in general parenting or really any thread where anyone talked about having kids past the age of 35, focusing on career in 20s, choosing to marry later, enjoying being single, etc.

Brunch Granny's main argument is that young women in their 20s and 30s spend too much time having brunch and drinking mimosas at trendy restaurants "in the city" and not enough time getting married and pumping out babies. That's really the whole gist. Brunch Granny is extremely triggered by the idea that any woman over the age of 22 might enjoy doing anything at all without first securing marriage and having at least one child before her fertility is lost forever to the ravages of time. She's very stressed about it!

Also, Brunch Granny likes to brag to people about how she had children in her 20s and then her children had kids in their 20s, so she got to be a Granny before 50 and spend lots of quality time with her grandchildren for whom, presumably, she is already matchmaking. Brunch Granny feels terrible for people who become grandparents in [GASP!] their 60s, when apparently they will be too old and decrepit to enjoy their grandchildren at all, and will instead spend their days lamenting all those mimosas chased by avocado toast they enjoyed in their 20s.


I am forever in your debt, thank you!

Does anyone know if Brunch Granny is one of the posters with 4 or 5 kids?
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 11:29     Subject: Re:Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:Okay I did some searching, but can someone PLEASE tell me the origin of Brunch Granny?

Dying....


I can't remember the exact original and there may not have been one thread -- I think there were a few and the same poster kept coming in and posting the exact same argument. Often in the relationship or fertility forums, but also in general parenting or really any thread where anyone talked about having kids past the age of 35, focusing on career in 20s, choosing to marry later, enjoying being single, etc.

Brunch Granny's main argument is that young women in their 20s and 30s spend too much time having brunch and drinking mimosas at trendy restaurants "in the city" and not enough time getting married and pumping out babies. That's really the whole gist. Brunch Granny is extremely triggered by the idea that any woman over the age of 22 might enjoy doing anything at all without first securing marriage and having at least one child before her fertility is lost forever to the ravages of time. She's very stressed about it!

Also, Brunch Granny likes to brag to people about how she had children in her 20s and then her children had kids in their 20s, so she got to be a Granny before 50 and spend lots of quality time with her grandchildren for whom, presumably, she is already matchmaking. Brunch Granny feels terrible for people who become grandparents in [GASP!] their 60s, when apparently they will be too old and decrepit to enjoy their grandchildren at all, and will instead spend their days lamenting all those mimosas chased by avocado toast they enjoyed in their 20s.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 11:23     Subject: Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Whatever happened to a simple “congratulations” when someone announces a pregnancy?
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 11:22     Subject: Re:Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:Okay I did some searching, but can someone PLEASE tell me the origin of Brunch Granny?

Dying....

S/he may be Tucker Carlson.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 11:16     Subject: Re:Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Okay I did some searching, but can someone PLEASE tell me the origin of Brunch Granny?

Dying....
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 11:09     Subject: Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She has now straight-out said it's an 'oops' baby.
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/pictures/golden-globes-2023-claire-danes-says-pregnancy-was-not-intentional/


There you have it ladies - don't blow off birth control if you don't want a baby in your 40s!


Oh, please. The data and science still shows likelihood of pregnancy is exceptionally low at 40. Whether she is telling the truth or not, I have no idea. Can women that are 42 get pregnant? Absolutely. Is it common? Absolutely not.
I get that women don't like aging and, for some, fertility is interwoven with desirability/self worth. This thread seems to be in denial about age and fertility realities but we really need to let this go. It is ok to recognize that aging and being in your 40s means certain changes. Fertility is in decline and pregnancies are less likely. The fact that a celebrity is pregnant at 43 does not negate that fact.


A bunch of women immediately accused Claire of doing a disservice to all women by using donor eggs and not sharing. Now we find out it's an oops pregnancy, and you are still clamoring on about how tough it is to get pregnant in 40s. For some women yes, for others, not so much.

It's okay that some women are fertile at 43 and having babies. Really, it is.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2023 10:34     Subject: Claire Danes expecting baby #3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She has now straight-out said it's an 'oops' baby.
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/pictures/golden-globes-2023-claire-danes-says-pregnancy-was-not-intentional/


There you have it ladies - don't blow off birth control if you don't want a baby in your 40s!


Oh, please. The data and science still shows likelihood of pregnancy is exceptionally low at 40. Whether she is telling the truth or not, I have no idea. Can women that are 42 get pregnant? Absolutely. Is it common? Absolutely not.
I get that women don't like aging and, for some, fertility is interwoven with desirability/self worth. This thread seems to be in denial about age and fertility realities but we really need to let this go. It is ok to recognize that aging and being in your 40s means certain changes. Fertility is in decline and pregnancies are less likely. The fact that a celebrity is pregnant at 43 does not negate that fact.


No one in this thread, or anywhere, has claimed it’s easy for most women to get pregnant in their 40s. No one advises young women to postpone kids until their 40s. No one!

You are angry about a thing that doesn’t exist.


You need to relax, lady. No one is angry. I am pointing out that this board is perpetually misleading and often misstates facts re fertility. There are dozens of anecdotal PPs above sharing how easy pregnancy is in 40s, which is purposefully misleading and doesn't reference context. My statements are on point.
I think this issue usually gets PPs upset because DC metro swings older pregnancy. I don't think that I've been any place that had as many advanced maternal age mothers as this area, which is why everyone is so defensive - and wrongly insisting that pregnancy in 40s is FINE.


Is this brunch granny? Someone upthread posted a stat that said the chance of a 40 year old getting pregnant in one cycle is 5%. Versus 25% for someone in their 20s. So yes it’s definitely harder. But it’s absolutely insane to leave that to chance with a 5% chance of getting pregnant in a single month. If someone said — roll these dice, you have a 1/20 chance of losing $100,000, would you do it? No way. And it’s also ridiculous to accuse every women of getting pregnant in her 40s of using IVF. There are millions of women in their 40s. A bunch aren’t consistently using birth control. So every year, a bunch of them will get pregnant. That’s just math.


That was my first thought too.