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Anonymous wrote:To recap:

The claim is that his grandparents were Jews who left Ukraine prior to WWII due to persecution and resettled somewhere in Belgium before emigrating to Brazil during the war. And yet the surname of his grandparents — DeVolder — is uniquely Belgian or Dutch, as opposed to Eastern European. The story starts to fall apart with his grandmother being named Rosalina, again not terribly common for a Jew born in Ukraine.

While not entirely improbable that his grandparents were Jews who fled to Brazil from Belgium prior to the Holocaust, and named their daughter Fatima when she was born in 19-fricking-62, the story doesn’t add up. Just as with every other part of his life story.

+1 Here’s what he told Fox News a year ago: "My grandfather was born in Kyiv and left in the late 20s and migrated to Belgium where he met my grandmother and then started a family," Santos said. "We don’t carry the Ukrainian last name, for a lot of people who are descendants of World War II refuges or survivors of the Holocaust, a lot of names or paperwork were changed in the name of survival."

I’d be curious to see if he was making this claim when he ran in 2020 before Ukraine was an issue.

The name "Rosalina" would have been virtually unheard-of in Belgium in the 1920s. Where you'd find it is Spain, Portugal, Brazil or Argentina.

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Anonymous wrote:Nah, the GOP is totally fine with this, clearly. In normal times, the party leadership would tell him not to bother to come to DC. We don't see that here.

Republican officials need to be put on the record on whether he is fit to serve and whether he should step down. Hold them all to account. This is grossly unacceptable.

Is it though? To republicans, is it unacceptable? Kind of like Herschel Walker was unacceptable?

Yeah, this is unacceptable. Herschel is guilty of being dumb and a generally bad person, but that isnt necessarily disqualifying these days. This guy, Santos or Devolved or whatever, appears to be a foreign conman. Personally, my hope is that Republican officials are working with law enforcement. I need them saying or doing anything publicly to say they disapprove of this guy, it seems obvious that they would disapprove. I know that many posters here believe the average Republican is in favor of torturing Ukranian babies so you may think this is fine with the GOP, but you're also not ever going to be GOP voters so there is no reason for them to be responsive to your concerns.

Unsurprisingly since he took Russian money, Santos’ campaign was unsurprisingly closely aligned with the Kremlin’s viewpoint on the invasion of Ukraine and the accompanying baby torture. In an interview with The Washington Post, Santos called Ukraine “a totalitarian regime,” and repeated Russian talking points alleging that eastern portions of Ukraine’s territory had “welcomed Russians into their provinces,” and “feel more Russian than Ukrainian.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/27/conservatives-cpac-ukraine/
“Look, if the Ukrainians really hated Russia so bad, the eastern border of Ukraine wouldn’t have welcomed Russians into their provinces. They feel more Russian than Ukrainian,” Santos, 33, said, echoing an argument made by Putin before the invasion and by British politician Nigel Farage at CPAC.”

Anonymous wrote:To recap:

The claim is that his grandparents were Jews who left Ukraine prior to WWII due to persecution and resettled somewhere in Belgium before emigrating to Brazil during the war. And yet the surname of his grandparents — DeVolder — is uniquely Belgian or Dutch, as opposed to Eastern European. The story starts to fall apart with his grandmother being named Rosalina, again not terribly common for a Jew born in Ukraine.

While not entirely improbable that his grandparents were Jews who fled to Brazil from Belgium prior to the Holocaust, and named their daughter Fatima when she was born in 19-fricking-62, the story doesn’t add up. Just as with every other part of his life story.

+1 Here’s what he told Fox News a year ago: "My grandfather was born in Kyiv and left in the late 20s and migrated to Belgium where he met my grandmother and then started a family," Santos said. "We don’t carry the Ukrainian last name, for a lot of people who are descendants of World War II refuges or survivors of the Holocaust, a lot of names or paperwork were changed in the name of survival."

I’d be curious to see if he was making this claim when he ran in 2020 before Ukraine was an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nah, the GOP is totally fine with this, clearly. In normal times, the party leadership would tell him not to bother to come to DC. We don't see that here.

Republican officials need to be put on the record on whether he is fit to serve and whether he should step down. Hold them all to account. This is grossly unacceptable.

Is it though? To republicans, is it unacceptable? Kind of like Herschel Walker was unacceptable?

Yeah, this is unacceptable. Herschel is guilty of being dumb and a generally bad person, but that isnt necessarily disqualifying these days. This guy, Santos or Devolved or whatever, appears to be a foreign conman. Personally, my hope is that Republican officials are working with law enforcement. I need them saying or doing anything publicly to say they disapprove of this guy, it seems obvious that they would disapprove. I know that many posters here believe the average Republican is in favor of torturing Ukranian babies so you may think this is fine with the GOP, but you're also not ever going to be GOP voters so there is no reason for them to be responsive to your concerns.

Former federal prosecutor:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nah, the GOP is totally fine with this, clearly. In normal times, the party leadership would tell him not to bother to come to DC. We don't see that here.

Republican officials need to be put on the record on whether he is fit to serve and whether he should step down. Hold them all to account. This is grossly unacceptable.

Is it though? To republicans, is it unacceptable? Kind of like Herschel Walker was unacceptable?

It is unacceptable. Republicans need to be put on the record as to whether they stand on the side of unacceptable - that in turn makes THEM unacceptable as well.

The same thing that would hold them accountable - the people, via the media doing their damn job vs. being a PR firm for the GOP - is the same thing that sat on this news till after the election. The media is (right wing) corporate owned and they have zero intention of trying to get the GOP to be a functional party.

Anonymous wrote:So much for social media-- people can find out most anything about anybody for free. And no one scoped this guy out? Crazy.

It was scooped out, just completely ignored.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nah, the GOP is totally fine with this, clearly. In normal times, the party leadership would tell him not to bother to come to DC. We don't see that here.

Republican officials need to be put on the record on whether he is fit to serve and whether he should step down. Hold them all to account. This is grossly unacceptable.

Is it though? To republicans, is it unacceptable? Kind of like Herschel Walker was unacceptable?

It is unacceptable. Republicans need to be put on the record as to whether they stand on the side of unacceptable - that in turn makes THEM unacceptable as well.

Here’s his FUPA charity fundraiser. Nothing about deductibility or 501(c)(3) status do at least he avoids a wire fraud charge — that is, assuming the funds were properly disbursed, which is an open question.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/mwjazw-fopu-event-tickets

So much for social media-- people can find out most anything about anybody for free. And no one scoped this guy out? Crazy.

Still up on NRCC website.

https://nrcc.org/candidates/george-santos/

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Anonymous wrote:Nah, the GOP is totally fine with this, clearly. In normal times, the party leadership would tell him not to bother to come to DC. We don't see that here.

Republican officials need to be put on the record on whether he is fit to serve and whether he should step down. Hold them all to account. This is grossly unacceptable.

Is it though? To republicans, is it unacceptable? Kind of like Herschel Walker was unacceptable?

There is a horde of reporters combing through this guy’s background. There’s more to come. He’s almost certainly looking at a false statements and potential bank fraud or money laundering charge. And who knows about his tax filings.

Anonymous wrote:Nah, the GOP is totally fine with this, clearly. In normal times, the party leadership would tell him not to bother to come to DC. We don't see that here.

Republican officials need to be put on the record on whether he is fit to serve and whether he should step down. Hold them all to account. This is grossly unacceptable.

Nah, the GOP is totally fine with this, clearly. In normal times, the party leadership would tell him not to bother to come to DC. We don't see that here.