Anonymous wrote:We have experienced similar in our workplace. We bought tickets to a baseball game and had a pre-game happy hour in the office. The most junior employees couldn't be bothered to attend the happy hour (we didn't even ask them to work in the office that day!) and just met us at the game.
I spend a lot of time thinking and reading on this topic and one interesting piece I read suggested that as a result of the pandemic/being remote is that work has become more transactional. People feel less like they are part of something and that the importance of belonging at work is fading.
A transactional relationship with your employer means that you don't feel swayed by invitations to holiday parties, or extra days in the office, or working more hours than 40. You do your job and you go log out for the day.
I'm a Gen X HR executive and I'm trying to change the way that I think about all of this. In my mind, you worked your a** off in your 20's to build up some capital so that when your life became more complicated you could attend to your personal obligations. There is a real shift happening.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We don't drink alcohol in my religion, so I don't attend these events. They should be optional.
You have your own religion? How did you start it?
BTW we serve mock tails my company and my wife attended twice when pregnant. She ate food, had a Virgin pina colada or a soda. I only drink 2-3 drinks as wife with me a boss. Very little drinking going on. I have more cokes and coffee then liquor
It's called Islam. There are a lot of countries where alcohol is forbidden. I guess you don't travel outside of the US much or have Muslim friends/co-workers.
And what’s wrong with that? So freaking entitled…
Is this really how you defend your ignorance of very basic details about Islam? Mormons also don’t drink. No international travel required for you to know about them.
Um, my husband is a Mormon and some of my coworkers are Muslims so yeah, you are entitled and ignorant. Check yourself.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We don't drink alcohol in my religion, so I don't attend these events. They should be optional.
You have your own religion? How did you start it?
BTW we serve mock tails my company and my wife attended twice when pregnant. She ate food, had a Virgin pina colada or a soda. I only drink 2-3 drinks as wife with me a boss. Very little drinking going on. I have more cokes and coffee then liquor
It's called Islam. There are a lot of countries where alcohol is forbidden. I guess you don't travel outside of the US much or have Muslim friends/co-workers.
And what’s wrong with that? So freaking entitled…
Is this really how you defend your ignorance of very basic details about Islam? Mormons also don’t drink. No international travel required for you to know about them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: There are unwritten rules in life and work that shouldn’t have to be spelt out. When the big boss comes to the office, make sure your ass is there, is one of them.
If 3 days in the office per week is the requirement and they could take another day as WFH instead of the Friday then no protocol was broken and everyone gets paid to attend a party. That’s a good deal.
Cool. This attitude disadvantages those with low SES backgrounds. But, please pat yourself on the back for knowing everything.
Anonymous wrote: There are unwritten rules in life and work that shouldn’t have to be spelt out. When the big boss comes to the office, make sure your ass is there, is one of them.
If 3 days in the office per week is the requirement and they could take another day as WFH instead of the Friday then no protocol was broken and everyone gets paid to attend a party. That’s a good deal.
Anonymous wrote: There are unwritten rules in life and work that shouldn’t have to be spelt out. When the big boss comes to the office, make sure your ass is there, is one of them.
If 3 days in the office per week is the requirement and they could take another day as WFH instead of the Friday then no protocol was broken and everyone gets paid to attend a party. That’s a good deal.
Anonymous wrote:Millennials won’t work a minute longer than they are being paid to work. They have a time clock mentality.
Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Really surprised to see a lot of these responses but maybe I just work for a different type of company. Before COVID we were never allowed to work from home and had to be in the office 5 days per week no exception. Not sure where everyone on DCUM works but among my group of friends nearly everyone is back in 3-4 days per week so being asked to come in for meetings or events is not unusual at all. The party was planned for a Friday because it’s generally the only day people don’t have meetings and can take a block of time to have lunch somewhere other than their desk. While my boss did not make either event mandatory, her email said verbatim “I would really like everyone to make every effort to attend these two events.” Seems pretty clear to me, and I am surprised that when other people’s bosses make requests like this they don’t do what is being asked, even if they would prefer not to attend a silly holiday get together. The culture of my company is very much celebrating in person together, always has been and always will be. And yes, in exchange for coming in on the Friday/Monday, they could work from home any other days that week, they were not losing the days.
The junior employees are ages 23-26, so definitely not millennials. None of them have children or caregiver obligations. I am a 39 year old millennial with 2 young kids and a husband currently traveling for work so I know all about childcare and scheduling challenges, but with 2 months notice I still found a way to make it work. As did every single person on the team with kids. Lastly, our core office hours are 9-5:30 so the party was not after hours, and the days we work in the office we need to be there until 5:30 so that part should not have been an issue.
Anonymous wrote:I'm not really a fan of serving alcohol at mandatory business functions. I've had two family members die of alcoholism.
I'd attend but I would not be crazy about it.
Those that are in recovery can struggle at these functions.